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New Desktop Macs With M2 Ultra and M2 Max Chips Could See WWDC Debut
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Matte black finish please!!
Personally I’m happy the Studio exists and I hope they keep updating it. Otherwise I would have had to buy a Mac Pro in the past, which is really overkill in terms of size and expense. That said, the current Mac Minis are really good (except for the disgusting $400 +16 GB RAM upgrade) and I could probably get by with one just fine, but it’s nice to have the Studio option if you really need max performance. Will wait to see what’s announced before I decide on Mini M2 Pro or M2 Studio purchase.
Personally I’m happy the Studio exists and I hope they keep updating it. Otherwise I would have had to buy a Mac Pro in the past, which is really overkill in terms of size and expense. That said, the current Mac Minis are really good (except for the disgusting $400 +16 GB RAM upgrade) and I could probably get by with one just fine, but it’s nice to have the Studio option if you really need max performance. Will wait to see what’s announced before I decide on Mini M2 Pro or M2 Studio purchase.
When Apple introduced the Mac Studio, they explicitly announced that the iMac transition was done. So those are not overdue on Apple’s books . They make the Macs so what they say has lots of weight .
If a Mac Studio M2 refresh was coming that would only be doubling down on that .
There is no way a 6k iMac 27” is going to be as affordable as the old classic 27” price range was .
The Mac Studio with NO screen at all is higher than the entry price point of the 27” iMacs . Throwing a 6K screen on top of that isn’t going to lower costs.
better chance that Apple brings in an ‘in between’ display docking station between the Studio display and the XDR and calls it a day. The third party general Monitor market coupled to Mini Pro and Mac Studio is the “big screen iMac” market for what the Studio combo doesn’t cover.
The large screen iMac as a tool to move “much more affordable” large screen panels only worked when Apple herded high number of Mac doesktop users into the product. Apple really stopped doing that . The 24” iMac has a smaller SoC boundary than the Mini has now ( mini has a M2 Pro option and
the iMac is painted into ‘ an iPad on a stick‘ constraints with main logic board.confined to the chin )
at some point Apple might bring back an iMac Pro like model but it would likely be very different from what the old iMac 27” was . Higher priced and far more niche that happens to sell more high end SoCs and very expensive panel … pretty much not providing much of a discount on either. Just a product to sop up production - demand mismatches for those components With another form factor.
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You kidding? M3 is a stop gap. We are waiting for the M4
I’m starting to think that, with time, the M-naming scheme is going to be for different categories of chips/power level rather than the way it is now. For example, M3 could be a high end chip only for Mac Pros, M2 is a prosumer chip, M1 is the entry-level one. They could even name each generation in a similar way as Apple Watches – it’s not hard to imagine an M2 Series 3 chip in a Mac someday
Seeing little reason for a Mac Pro to exist other than for apple profits. Majority of the professionals I know are pretty damn satisfied with the Mac Studio form factor and other than wishing it was “more powerful than the other apple silicon” are pretty happy with the performance 🤷♂️
Maybe just stick with Mac Studio form and start promoting it as a professional machine—because it is.
Maybe just stick with Mac Studio form and start promoting it as a professional machine—because it is.
A 27in. iMac?—maybe, just maybe. But not likely next week.
A 32in. iMac?—nope, not a chance. And certainly not anytime soon.
In both scenarios I suspect Apple believes they can do better by having the Mac Studio with which customers can opt for the Studio Display or a monitor from another brand. It’s a bitter pill for 27in. iMac fans, but there it is. And if M2 is the current thing to focus on then we could well see a revised M2 Mac Studio alongside the 15in. MacBook Air.
If M3 is referenced next week I think it will be in regard to forthcoming models by the end of the year. It would be a helluva surprise otherwise.
A 32in. iMac?—nope, not a chance. And certainly not anytime soon.
In both scenarios I suspect Apple believes they can do better by having the Mac Studio with which customers can opt for the Studio Display or a monitor from another brand. It’s a bitter pill for 27in. iMac fans, but there it is. And if M2 is the current thing to focus on then we could well see a revised M2 Mac Studio alongside the 15in. MacBook Air.
If M3 is referenced next week I think it will be in regard to forthcoming models by the end of the year. It would be a helluva surprise otherwise.
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PCIe slots for cards that would like more bandwidth than TB4 can provide; NVMe M.2 RAID, 8K video I/O, networking...
for current M1 Max Studio owners.... Can the M1 Max or whatever the best one is handle 3 streams of 6k 10 bit h.265 video and fast color grading adjustments without render times each time I adjust the color?
If so then I'll buy the best M1 Studio when the M2 or M3 drops because why would I need anything better? Why not pay 50% of original price and get very similar real world performance?
If so then I'll buy the best M1 Studio when the M2 or M3 drops because why would I need anything better? Why not pay 50% of original price and get very similar real world performance?
True. Some people seem to be conflating the entry-level, sub-$2000 i5 27" iMac (which was always a steal for that quality of display) with the high-end i9 models that cost the thick end of $3k.
Yup. Just to pick nits, (a) the Mac Studio, power-wise, is closer to the top-end i9 iMacs if not the entry-level iMac Pro ($5k) and (b) the Studio comes with 32GB RAM minimum whereas the iMacs came with a measly 8GB. A base Mac Studio + Studio Display combo costs about the same as an i9/AMD5700 iMac upgraded to 32GB RAM at Apple rates. (Of course, with the iMac you'd probably have got cheaper 3rd party RAM, but that option was never likely to be carried over to any ASi iMac).
However, I still don't understand why anybody would want an expensive 6k+ display joined at the hip with a non-upgradeable Mac with no possibility of replacing the screen or computer separately in the future. I only bought a 5k iMac in 2017 because that was the only viable option at the time.
Hahahaha to anyone thinking most people would give a sh*t about the performance difference or even notice. 🙄
Mac Studio - Apple M1 Max Chip - 512GB (2022)
Mac Studio - Apple M1 Max Chip - 512GB (2022)
I still wonder will Apple unveil the M2 iMac, too. Because of its double-fan cooling system, the M2 on the iMac could run at full speed even with complex apps with very little worries about thermal throttling.
I can only imagine how nice these will be. I just got a M2/8GB Mac Mini and am beyond impressed with its speed.
It's a shame none of us will remember he was wrong after he erases all our memories again.
That's why Apple is probably going to finally complete that 2-year transition with an axe to the Mac Pro.
Yes this is why I don’t like Apple’s treatment of pros lately. Rumors a few weeks ago said no Mac Studio refresh until M3 and no Mac Pro this year. I already see some differences between the M2 Max laptops and my M1 Ultra Mac Studio. It would be crazy if we had to wait for M3.
How many times does it need to be said?—there will be no M2 iMac. The next upgrade will be M3.
Slotting in an M2 to give the current iMac a moderate boost in performance after waiting two years is a non-starter. Much smarter to give it a significant performance upgrade with M3 to re-energize interest and sales.
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Apple needs to start going top down and treat us pros better. Why does an Air need M3 before pros get their systems finally?
Plus with the power supply and fans the Mac Pro provides, they can up the clocks and run the processors hotter which will help.
Don’t speak for all. I’m sure I’m not alone when I need more than 128 GB of RAM for my work.