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New Features in iOS 6 Receive Spotty Support from Older Devices
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i think it stems from the fact that apples old hardware back in the day ppc etc could run just about everything they ever did until they moved into intel and mobiles. Have to admit that as there is very little difference between iphone 4 and 4s you would think siri would be on the 4 but hey what do i know
I personally don't see any features I want on my 3GS... But if there are any I decide I want later, there's always jailbreak tweaks activating any dormant features (Like wallpapers and multitasking on the 3G back in iOS 4)
Good thing for that old bootrom gloriousness.
Good thing for that old bootrom gloriousness.
Ios 6, is boring! These features are as depressing as the iphone 4s announcement. Might be done with iphones this update, unless the iphone 5 blows my socks off, otherwise I'm getting a HTC one x or galaxy s3. No siri support for third party developeer? No support on my apple tv from developers other then apple?! What a joke! I'm sick of apple waiting out there market cap to wow me.
No Turn-by-Turn nav for my iPhone 4? OK, I'll just continue jailbreaking this thing and make sure it will work. Just like I did with Siri, and it's working great 
Suckers
Suckers
To be honest I am shocked the 3GS is getting any support at all. In a few months there will be a new gen iPhone so that will be 4 iPhones running iOS 6. Let's hope it's not like iOS 4 on a 3G was.
I agree the iPhone 4 is getting snuffed here a bit, but it has been getting shafted since its release. FaceTime was wifi only "for 2010" and now it's two years later and it's still wifi only. Many of us speculated apple didn't want to use it over 3G and we would see it with 4G but now that's not true either. Add to that the fact that it's been pretty well demonstrated that FaceTime works perfectly fine over 3G on an iPhone 4 via a jailbreak.
I'm not saying its right or wrong, but this is kind of par for the course. And not just for Apple.
I agree the iPhone 4 is getting snuffed here a bit, but it has been getting shafted since its release. FaceTime was wifi only "for 2010" and now it's two years later and it's still wifi only. Many of us speculated apple didn't want to use it over 3G and we would see it with 4G but now that's not true either. Add to that the fact that it's been pretty well demonstrated that FaceTime works perfectly fine over 3G on an iPhone 4 via a jailbreak.
I'm not saying its right or wrong, but this is kind of par for the course. And not just for Apple.
Yes as we've established it varies from country to country. It's more a carrier limitation than an Apple one.
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I've got an iPhone 4 too. It's already a small upgrade if you assume you get ALL the features. But we don't even get all the features.
Here's a better list: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/psa-which-ios-6-features-can-my-device-run/
The Galaxy S III is a beast.
And regarding updates/support... something that's nice about Android: even if you don't get the latest OS version, you can still get updates to core apps through the market. Also, 3rd party apps can replace stock apps thanks to the fact that you can choose what apps perform certain functions. So even if you assumed that you would NEVER receive an OS update, you still aren't as bad off as you may think. This doesn't solve everything but it's nice.
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http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/#facetime
At the bottom... it says 4S and iPad 3.
No FaceTime over 3G for iPhone 4?
No Siri support for iPod or iPhone 4?
No Turn by Turn Directions for iPhone 4?
Is it still magical?
I am a 3GS user and I doubt I will upgrade to iOS 6 as previous release made it very slow...
Maybe AAPL wants to speed up renewing cycles
Probably because by the time iOS6 is out the iPhone 5 will be with us and that'll make the iPhone 4, 2 1/2 year old technology. I don't think I've ever owned a piece of technology for over 2 1/2 years and still expected it to be relevant.
And I would disagree the differences aren't huge - nearly everything inside is upgraded by between the 4 and 4S. Why is it with phones people ignore the upgrades, yet you wouldn't' say theres no difference between the new Macbook Airs just released and the ones from last year...
I find the lack of turn by turn navigation on older models perplexing. After all, there are plenty of apps that provide a 3D view in their turn by turn navigation that work just fine. Many of the standalone sat nav devices that do it are far less powerful than say an iPhone 4, so if Apple have built replacement map software that really needs the power of a 4S just to render 3D turn by turn, they should think again. Or add a 2D turn by turn mode, because it's still better than nothing.
Well this bites...
Facetime Wifi only in 2010?... Nope, wifi only forever -.-
iPhone 4 can handle FaceTime great, as proven with jailbreaking.
Facetime Wifi only in 2010?... Nope, wifi only forever -.-
iPhone 4 can handle FaceTime great, as proven with jailbreaking.
Not to mention all the old/low-end Android phones that still do Google Maps voice-guided turn-by-turn navigation, satellite view, ect....
I don't know what Apple is thinking with this update. They need a really Good iPhone 6...
No FaceTime over 3G for iPhone 4?
No Siri support for iPod or iPhone 4?
No Turn by Turn Directions for iPhone 4?
This what Apple is telling You
1. you be upgrading your phone very soon
2. you need a reason to upgrade
3. we have given you the reason to upgrade
4. upgrade will be available this fall
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If you understand that Facetime over 3G isn't added on the 4 due not capable of hdspa+( this is apple's reason, not saying it can't be done) then you should understand that there is no support for the turn by turn navigation.
This will not work great because the maps are not preloaded, like with apps or standalone devices, so you need a good internet connection to keep up with you.
Chances are it takes to long on some 3G connections, and Apple doesn't want to take chances that things aren't working well.
So if they don't support one ( facetime over 3G, or turn by turn) then it makes complete sense not to support the other.
This will not work great because the maps are not preloaded, like with apps or standalone devices, so you need a good internet connection to keep up with you.
Chances are it takes to long on some 3G connections, and Apple doesn't want to take chances that things aren't working well.
So if they don't support one ( facetime over 3G, or turn by turn) then it makes complete sense not to support the other.
This what Apple is telling Us
1. you be upgrading your phone very soon
2. you need a reason to upgrade
3. we have given you the reason to upgrade
4. upgrade will be available this fall
1. you be upgrading your phone very soon
2. you need a reason to upgrade
3. we have given you the reason to upgrade
4. upgrade will be available this fall
I don't believe that for a minute. You can drive around with the current map open and self updating and it works just fine on 3G. Map data is going to be way less bandwidth than video. Also if you are saying HSDPA+ would be needed for turn by turn navigation, it wouldn't work at all in most parts of the world.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
selfupdating the map is less demanding then turn by turn. because alle the commands and everything had to be loaded via 3G not only a simple map with a little blue dot moving.
Because when it doesn't work by the standards apple requires they just won't do it