NEW G5 Xserve 2.0 on the bay

[Intell]

It is very beneficial for one to read a thread in its entirety, less they risk missing something. I am aware of MacRumors' quote notification system. Thus, why in some cases I neglect to quote someone.

 

[poiihy]

Your statement about redundant power supplies definitely looks out of place without a quote, especially to someone who hasn't read every word of every post in this thread before coming to your post. They wouldn't know the reasoning behind it. Furthermore, the quoted poster often gets a notification when one of their posts is quoted and that helps get the point across to them.

agreed; I didn't know what he was talking about and I still don't know what he is replying to. (nevermind found it)

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My immediate plans are to set it up in the closet at home, and offload tasks to it that stress my Quicksilver or take a long time. Even though I know absolutely zero about video editing, apparently I know more than anyone else in my Church and have been getting requests to put together DVDs for various occasions. Encoding often takes a long time on the G4, so being able to offload it to the G5 will be a big timesaver. I have some other ideas, but I need to play around with the hardware some to see how feasible or difficult they're going to be.

How bout turn it into a table instead of sticking it in a closet where nobody can see? Even better, replace the top cover with plexiglass so you can see the insides.

 

[redheeler]

It is very beneficial for one to read a thread in its entirety, less they risk missing something.

You can't seriously expect everyone on this forum to do this before they come to your post. That's not even how this forum is intended to work, hence the ability to jump strait to the last post in a thread. I often backtrack from bottom to top and quotes help a lot.

I am aware of MacRumors' quote notification system. Thus, why in some cases I neglect to quote someone.

Why would you not want someone to get a quote notification?

 

[poiihy]

It is very beneficial for one to read a thread in its entirety, less they risk missing something.

That is very true, and it causes a lot of problems (sigh), but many people don't have the time to read the entire thread thoroughly.

Furthermore, the quoted poster often gets a notification when one of their posts is quoted and that helps get the point across to them.

I am aware of MacRumors' quote notification system. Thus, why in some cases I neglect to quote someone.

There's a quite notification system? One that emails you when someone quotes your message? I didn't know that! I couldn't find anything like that; closest I found was automatic subscription to the thread.

edit- I found it at the bottom of the options page. Probably doesn't work because I also have automatic subscription enabled which subscribes to threads.

 

[bunnspecial]

Intell Xserves have redundant power supplies.

That's good information to know-I guess that-like most things-Apple products evolved.

 

[Intell]

MacRumors' default thread view is a simple linear view. Reading every post from first to last in a thread is exactly how this forum is intended to work. One can choose to quote a post mid-thread and respond to it or add a response to the latest post or post their own content. The ability to go to the last post in a thread is a hold over from the BBS days. For best results, you may want to use the View First Unread link at the top left of every thread. To not quote a post is to not engage a person's general memory and to instead let a thread wisp into the clouds.

 

[Surrat]

Congrats on your Xserve !

My Xserve arrived today too!

Mine is the older RackMac1,2 which is a dual G4 1.33ghz.

So far its working perfectly except for one ram slot thats acting erratic, I'm hoping its just dust and needs a good cleaning. I installed a matched set of Kingston pc2700 cas2.5 512mb dims, an apple fibre channel card, the unobtanium AGP riser, with my ati 9600 256mb pc/mac edition, and four 500gig drives from my xserve raid thats so damn loud I never want to run it.

I have 10.5.8 on it, and its running really nice. I'm sure everybody wants to know how loud it is.. lol The fans do start at high, and ease off when the OS loads. When its not under high load, its about the same as my MDD. At high load, its louder, but not as loud as the MDD gets.

Just for fun I ran our minecraft on it, which is a very heavy load for any g4, it was holding 48-51fps with both cpu core lights all lit up, showing about 95% load.

 

[redheeler]

MacRumors' default thread view is a simple linear view. Reading every post from first to last in a thread is exactly how this forum is intended to work. One can choose to quote a post mid-thread and respond to it or add a response to the latest post or post their own content. The ability to go to the last post in a thread is a hold over from the BBS days. For best results, you may want to use the View First Unread link at the top left of every thread.

Ok, let me get this strait. You expect me to start at the OP and read through multiple pages of posts I don't even care about before I can reply to or even see your post? That is not how this forum is supposed to work or what most members do, and I am not going to waste my time doing that on every thread either.

I would rather you narrow down what you're talking about when it's in relation to someone else's post, using a quote. It makes this forum a lot easier to understand and navigate.

To not quote a post is to not engage a person's general memory and to instead let a thread wisp into the clouds.

If you must you can use generic QUOTE tags and they won't get a notification.

 

[Intell]

I don't see the appeal in doing someone else's work or research for them and using the generic quotes is just more unnecessary typing.

 

[poiihy]

To not quote a post is to not engage a person's general memory and to instead let a thread wisp into the clouds.

If you must you can use generic QUOTE tags and they won't get a notification.

It's the quoted person's choice if they want to receive quote notifications or not, not the quoter's choice. If the person being quoted doesn't want a quote notification then they will disable it.
But it's not a good idea to intentionally not quote a person you are replying to to not bother them because then the person being quoted won't have any control over that and may want to be notified. They might also never get the info.

 

[MatthewLTL]

MacRumors' default thread view is a simple linear view. Reading every post from first to last in a thread is exactly how this forum is intended to work. One can choose to quote a post mid-thread and respond to it or add a response to the latest post or post their own content. The ability to go to the last post in a thread is a hold over from the BBS days. For best results, you may want to use the View First Unread link at the top left of every thread. To not quote a post is to not engage a person's general memory and to instead let a thread wisp into the clouds.

I have my MacRumors' Forum settings set to show newest post 1st makes it much easier to read and keep track of. I do that will all Forums on sites that allow such a setting.

 

[redheeler]

I don't see the appeal in doing someone else's work or research for them

It's not doing someone else's work or research, it's narrowing down your post. What question you're trying to answer, what statement you're trying to correct, or add to, or point out. That's the purpose of quotes.

and using the generic quotes is just more unnecessary typing.

Not much, "

" is simply changed to "

".

 

[MatthewLTL]

Congrats on your Xserve !

My Xserve arrived today too!

Mine is the older RackMac1,2 which is a dual G4 1.33ghz.

So far its working perfectly except for one ram slot thats acting erratic, I'm hoping its just dust and needs a good cleaning. I installed a matched set of Kingston pc2700 cas2.5 512mb dims, an apple fibre channel card, the unobtanium AGP riser, with my ati 9600 256mb pc/mac edition, and four 500gig drives from my xserve raid thats so damn loud I never want to run it.

I have 10.5.8 on it, and its running really nice. I'm sure everybody wants to know how loud it is.. lol The fans do start at high, and ease off when the OS loads. When its not under high load, its about the same as my MDD. At high load, its louder, but not as loud as the MDD gets.

Just for fun I ran our minecraft on it, which is a very heavy load for any g4, it was holding 48-51fps with both cpu core lights all lit up, showing about 95% load.

What is Fibre Channel?

 

[redheeler]

But it's not a good idea to intentionally not quote a person you are replying to to not bother them because then the person being quoted won't have any control over that and may want to be notified. They might also never get the info.

I do agree with this. I don't think I've ever substituted a generic quote for a linked one to purposefully stop someone from getting a notification. I would rather encourage discussion than discourage it.

 

[Intell]

Fibre Channel is basically super fast/expensive FireWire. It's mostly used in enterprise and digital media systems. It's starting to loose favor to Thunderbolt in non-enterprise uses.

 

[Altemose]

First of all, for the people here who do not understand this, there are multiple usage styles of online communities. Intell is full of facts and if it takes a person getting a giant bolt "QUOTE NOTIFICATION" in the top right corner of their screen when they sign in to go learn about what they originally posted then that is their issue.

 

[Weaselboy]

[Mod Note]

I deleted the off topic auto discussion. Feel free to start a thread on that subject over in the Community Discussion forum. Please keep this thread on topic. Thanks

 

[Surrat]

I ran xbench to test hard disk performance on the Xserve 1.33.

It was showing 58 MB/s speed with the boot drive.
The other three drives are in a test raid 0 stripe array, just to see how fast it could go. The array was getting 149 MB/s.

Also, for the heck of it, I tried the rare apple 9700pro card out of my MDD in the Xserve to see if it would work, but it didn't. No boot, just black screen. I'm guessing the modified AGP slot pins for the ADC cards is the problem, perhaps the Xserve has a standard AGP4x slot with no weirdness, so the card doesn't work.

 

[bunnspecial]

I just picked up a copy of Leopard Server on Ebay, and got it for not too terrible of a price(the seller was nice enough to show the serial card, but cover up the numbers on it).

As I mentioned, member California sent me a whole bunch of iBook and Powerbook parts. I took a Superdrive out of a 12" Powerbook that I think will fit the Xserve(they at least look pretty darn similar). I'm going to hopefully put together a few good computers, but think that I can sacrifice at least one drive to this cause(perhaps that computer will get an Optibay).

Hopefully that will work, as I dread installing via Target Disk Mode(it makes quite a racket, as the Xserve fans run at full blast for the duration of the the time it's in TDM).

On an unrelated note, SMART Utility seems to think that I should replace the drives in this computer...looks like I need to go shopping! I'm going to avoid dumpster diving for drives, as I do actually want at least some degree of reliability and would also like larger capacity drives.

 

[Surrat]

I just picked up a copy of Leopard Server on Ebay, and got it for not too terrible of a price(the seller was nice enough to show the serial card, but cover up the numbers on it).

As I mentioned, member California sent me a whole bunch of iBook and Powerbook parts. I took a Superdrive out of a 12" Powerbook that I think will fit the Xserve(they at least look pretty darn similar). I'm going to hopefully put together a few good computers, but think that I can sacrifice at least one drive to this cause(perhaps that computer will get an Optibay).

Hopefully that will work, as I dread installing via Target Disk Mode(it makes quite a racket, as the Xserve fans run at full blast for the duration of the the time it's in TDM).

On an unrelated note, SMART Utility seems to think that I should replace the drives in this computer...looks like I need to go shopping! I'm going to avoid dumpster diving for drives, as I do actually want at least some degree of reliability and would also like larger capacity drives.

The first time you run smart utility on your drives if it finds any old errors, it will flag them as failing. Those errors could have been from when it was new. Tell it to ignore the errors and the next time you run it, the drive will pass. Now if it gets MORE errors later, then there is reason to plan for another drive.

As for drive size, dont go larger than 2TB.

 

[Altemose]

I just picked up a copy of Leopard Server on Ebay, and got it for not too terrible of a price(the seller was nice enough to show the serial card, but cover up the numbers on it).



As I mentioned, member California sent me a whole bunch of iBook and Powerbook parts. I took a Superdrive out of a 12" Powerbook that I think will fit the Xserve(they at least look pretty darn similar). I'm going to hopefully put together a few good computers, but think that I can sacrifice at least one drive to this cause(perhaps that computer will get an Optibay).



Hopefully that will work, as I dread installing via Target Disk Mode(it makes quite a racket, as the Xserve fans run at full blast for the duration of the the time it's in TDM).



On an unrelated note, SMART Utility seems to think that I should replace the drives in this computer...looks like I need to go shopping! I'm going to avoid dumpster diving for drives, as I do actually want at least some degree of reliability and would also like larger capacity drives.

Those drives have a decent amount of hours.

 

[poiihy]

I just picked up a copy of Leopard Server on Ebay, and got it for not too terrible of a price(the seller was nice enough to show the serial card, but cover up the numbers on it).

As I mentioned, member California sent me a whole bunch of iBook and Powerbook parts. I took a Superdrive out of a 12" Powerbook that I think will fit the Xserve(they at least look pretty darn similar). I'm going to hopefully put together a few good computers, but think that I can sacrifice at least one drive to this cause(perhaps that computer will get an Optibay).

Hopefully that will work, as I dread installing via Target Disk Mode(it makes quite a racket, as the Xserve fans run at full blast for the duration of the the time it's in TDM).

On an unrelated note, SMART Utility seems to think that I should replace the drives in this computer...looks like I need to go shopping! I'm going to avoid dumpster diving for drives, as I do actually want at least some degree of reliability and would also like larger capacity drives.

That doesn't really mean anything. You have nothing to worry about. But if the bad sectors keep on growing and growing constantly then you have a really big problem and the drive is definitely failing. But if it stays the same it is fine. The drive(s) were probably just bumped and the head hit the disk causing some bad sectors.

However your drives are quite old so you really should have some backups.

 

[MagicBoy]

Those drives have a decent amount of hours.

I've got some 1TB Hitachi's with nearly double those hours that that have been in Firewire enclosures, a Microserver based NAS and now a Netgear NAS. They haven't missed a beat.

From the screenshot the second drive flagged the last error over 2.5 power on years ago. If it flags any further errors then replace...

 

[bunnspecial]

One thing for sure-the server isn't "new and unused" as advertised.

I'm still happy with it, though, although somewhat disappointed that my "new" server actually had about 3 1/2 years of use.

 

[MagicBoy]

If the drives are original it's around 3 years of power on hours...