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New iBook and Mac mini Part Numbers?

alexf said:
Why must we always compare? It's strange how comparison keeps us from enjoying things like we should...
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I would have to fully agree with this one. I have an iBook (the current model as of 07/22/05), and all of design students I attend school with have Powerbooks, and a lot of times I take heat for having a "consumer" product. But the fact is I have an Apple iBook, one of the best looking and easy to use computers in the world. Sure, it's no Powerbook, but I could be foolin' around with that old HP I had. If you just got a mini and they update it the next week, that doesn't mean your mini sucks. It just means in a few years you know that Apple will still be innovating, and when you're in the market for a new computer it will be great! Remember, no matter which processor you have, or how much RAM, even if you have 8MB graphics, if you're running OSX you're in better shape than what is it, 95%+ of other personal computer users. Enjoy your Mac because it's a Mac. :)
 
I actually really like the look of the iBook better. Matches my iPod and the white Nintendo DS I'm getting. I was going to get a 12" Powerbook, but if the new iBooks ship with decent video cards, harddrives, and maybe a SuperDrive, I'll get an iBook in a heartbeat.
 
virus1 said:
i bought my pb because ibooks didn't have a superdrive. i regretted it tho, because a month after i did, the pretty g4 ibooks with the superdrive option was avalible for half the price. gah! i don't know if i should sell my 12" 1ghz pb and get one of these widescreen ibooks. i am still not convinced the intel's will be so much faster, and there is no way there will be a g5 in a laptop soon, or even, at all. pm me if you have advice.

somone said they wanted 2 ram slots in the mac mini, and there already is. they are just too small to support the 1gb sticks, so they just put 2 512s in there for thier 1gb ram config.
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I have to ask, have you actually opened a Mac Mini? I did when I installed a single 1GB DIMM. I think I would have noticed a second slot.
 
Eevee said:
Ahh...next Tuesday. Good news for those waiting for iBook/Mini updates
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I can't believe the day has finally come!! We can just about be certain now...all the rumors...the shipping times...its a definite thing!!
:D :D
 
Rootman said:
Next week if you want a PPC Mini or iBook, you'll have to buy it at overstock.com, but you won't want to. The new Mini is Intel (2+ GHz) on a board designed and sourced for Apple by Intel. Apple is doing low-end Intel first, the ultimate switcher's dream: dual-boots Windows. OSX has run on Intel since the beginning, the Altivec thing has been worked out, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to build an Intel motherboard (Woz could do it in his garage in a weekend) especially with Intel chipset integration. We didn't see this coming the same way we were floored by the Mini (after all the speculation on the design of a headless Mac). Jobs didn't want to get sandbagged like he did when Moto got stuck at 500MHz in the 90s, and swore to never let it happen again, so was ready when IBM stalled and the 3GHz promise was hosed, and Intel for more than a year has been very proactive in providing a solution that went far beyond just supplying one chip. Apple is so secretive, if they weren't going to have Intel Macs for a year, Steve wouldn't have said word one. Apple has never dumped inventory into a liquidator like overstock, but this is an extraordinary situation, obviously - who would want the old architecture?
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You present all of this as fact. Is this meant to be inside information? Or is this just speculation?
 
CoMpX said:
I can't believe the day has finally come!! We can just about be certain now...all the rumors...the shipping times...its a definite thing!!
:D :D
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- I bought my PowerBook about 2 1/2 months ago
- I upgraded my Mac mini to 1GB last week
- I replaced the HD with a 5400RPM one and bought a M9-DX this week (I'm using the old 80GB/4200 in it, no heat/noise!)

So it's a given that updates are coming soon! :rolleyes:

Aside from a better GPU/more VRAM, though, there's nothing that would make me update my current Mac mini!

P.S.: I wish the M9-DX silver finish better matched the Mac mini's. It's a bit too dark! And what's with that ultra-bright blue LED? Couldn't they make the LED the same as the one on the Mac mini? I'm half-tempted to patch the current LED and drill a hole "in the right place" and move it there. ;-)
 
virus1 said:
i think it is a little harder for apple to actually design it than it is for you to do a quick 5 minute photoshop job. the audio jacks up top are way too close together to be possible. and i am thinking that security jack will take up too much space as well. they pushed it making it so small. they should have made it a tiny bit bigger, and it would have been 10 times easier for them to improve on it
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Agree on all those points. We've seen that picture before. What's more, notice the modem is gone.

Granted, I don't need the modem, but there are still plenty of people who don't have broadband and many of them are the target audience for a Mac Mini.
 
virus1 said:
i think it is a little harder for apple to actually design it than it is for you to do a quick 5 minute photoshop job. the audio jacks up top are way too close together to be possible. and i am thinking that security jack will take up too much space as well. they pushed it making it so small. they should have made it a tiny bit bigger, and it would have been 10 times easier for them to improve on it
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lets not forget the USB ports being divided by the DVI port.

i imagine the insides of this photoshopped mini would be reminiscent of an octopus, with all it's arms in a giant knot.
 
Ravenflight said:
That's the beauty of this design- (Which is not mine btw- I saw it at www.123macmini.com) Get rid of the useless modem and replace it with something useful. Until they start building in modems that are DSL compatible it's just a waste of space. Now a built in DSL modem- THAT I would be willing to pay extra for! Or at least one of the modem makers could make a DSL modem in shiny white- to match my iMac and AirPort. This ugly black and silver Speedstream 5360 just totally ruins the aesthetic of my setup. :D
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While I agree that the modem is largely useless for a lot of us there are still folks on dial up, we have to spare them a thought.
However, why you would want to replace it with a DSL modem????!!! Give me cable every time. When DSL can compete with this I might change my mind.
 

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Noiseboy said:
While I agree that the modem is largely useless for a lot of us there are still folks on dial up, we have to spare them a thought.
However, why you would want to replace it with a DSL modem????!!! Give me cable every time. When DSL can compete with this I might change my mind.
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It all depends on who gives you cable and DSL connections. Where I live, I'll never go back to cable, their service just plain sucks!

And in more than three years, I've never had any problem with my DSL connection (which is as fast as cable where I live, BTW).
 
Zoboomafoo said:
lets not forget the USB ports being divided by the DVI port.

i imagine the insides of this photoshopped mini would be reminiscent of an octopus, with all it's arms in a giant knot.
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All the external ports of the mini are soldered onto the mainboard. There are no cables.
 
iDrinkKoolAid said:
Let's not get our hopes too sky high. Then, when the iBook/Mac Mini update comes out we won't be disappointed.

Anyone read notebookreview.com? They run this benchmark called SuperPi. I tried it on my 12" 1.5 GHz PowerBook G4 and got 2 minutes 40 seconds to calculate pi to 2 million digits. I don't think that would be too far behind a 1.5 GHz Pentium M (400 MHz FSB). I still think the G4 has some life left to be used in Apple laptops. They just need to find out how to make it run cooler, if that's even possible. My fan is pretty noisy and my PowerBook runs hot, although not as hot as the original (867 MHz) 12-inch version.
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For comparison's sake, I downloaded the PC version (1.1) of SuperPi and I ran it twice. The first time I ran it with several IE windows open and an explorer window, while I was typing etc. with AIM, quicktime, msn messenger, and google desktop search running in the background. The second time I closed everything I could and ran it again.

On the first try, I found 2 million digits in 2:36.
The second time, it took only 2:18.

I purchased my system in August 2003. Its specs are as follows:

Dell Inspiron 600m
1.7 GHz Pentium-M
768 MB RAM
Windows XP Home
60 GB 4200 RPM HD.
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 w/ 64 MB VRAM
14.1" SXGA+ LCD Display (resolution @ 1400x1050)

The results are really close between our computers, but I'd have to disagree about the G4 has much life left. That's because for less than a 12.1 inch PowerBook, you could buy a 700m with a 1.8 GHz Pentium-M processor--the new kind, not the first generation like mine. While the G4 processor is still functional, it is still not speedy enough to compete with the Pentium-M.
 
SiliconAddict said:
*sighs* see previous post. A little common sense goes a long away.
Unless Apple has a G5 motherboard ready NOW along with a newly designed PowerBook, and has sample chips they are going to devote their time and energies to creating a dual core Pentium M PowerBook. Intel 3 months ago (Check that 4 months ago) was RUNNING a demo laptop with dual cores.
Sure as **** Apple has those demo chips NOW and are working on creating the next iteration of the PowerBook with them in mind. Think about it. Apple is NOT going to invest tons of money into a G5 PowerBook at this late of a date just for one single revision before they jump to Intel.

Also IBM can't seem to meet current demand for the G5. How do you think a G5 PowerBook would play out? If it was introduced in say September (Which it won’t because Jobs wouldn’t have gone on stage and said where is the G5 PowerBook if they had samples running in their labs prepping a new PowerBook) do you think they would have yields of a brand new chip ramped up before Spring the supposed timeframe when the first gen of x86 Macs will show up? Again they would be sinking huge amounts of money into a chip that is going nowhere. Again a little common sense here. There will be no G5 PowerBook unless Apple rebrands the Pentium M a G5-M or something.
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You forgot to add that the 1.6 GHz G5 is slower then the current fastest G4, not only in clockspeed but also in operations per clockcycle. It doesnt make sense ANY way you look at it, well except if you think '5' is better then '4' :rolleyes:
 
The integration of a DSL or Cable modem would not be beneficial. Just connect via the ethernet port to an external modem. Some cable or dsl providers don't support models outside of what they offer and their could be other compatibility issues that I don't think the internet provider or Apple or other PC mfgs want to deal with. I like having just an ethernet port and then connecting to the modem of my choice. What if I change from dsl to cable? The internal DSL modem would be worth less. I like the flexibility.

That is not a good idea to have built in DSL or cable modem. Especially in the mini which is not as moddable as a regular computer.
 
SiliconAddict said:
All the external ports of the mini are soldered onto the mainboard. There are no cables.
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it was a metaphor, specifically referring to the design choice of splitting the USB ports. better design would put all the USB ports in one location, don't you think?
 
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