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Yvan256 said:
It's not only that there's no place in the back, but there's no room left inside either. This solution would waste even more space anyway, on top of not being user-friendly!

How much space? Maybe 5mm? Hardly earth shattering and would be highly useful esp if they put the RAM upgrade back there as well. What the heck do you mean user friendly?!? Its no more difficult then removing a battery from a laptop. A door on the back of the system would have the USB symbol on it. Flip it open, plug it in, lay the cables, flip it closed. Nice neat cables coming out the bottom laying flat. A freaking chimp could figure that out.
 
don't they have to go intel?

my apologies if someone's already made this point...
current ibooks: 1.2/1.33
current powerbooks: 1.5/1.67
so the only way to stay with a G4 in the ibooks is to have the two lines overlap, right? (ibook: 1.33/1.5, pbook 1.5/1.67). I guess it's not impossible, but it sure would be weird.
Then again, so would an intel ibook six months ahead of schedule...
 
What about the 1.42 Ghz PPC currently found in eMac's and the highend current-mini? Couldn't they make the iBooks 1.33/1.42, powerbooks still 1.5/1.67 and there you go, updates for all of them - no overlapping speeds. I'd be suprised to see a 1.5 ghz PPC (or higher) in the updated iBooks. But who knows, maybe I'll be suprised? I hope so!
 
Then again, if they do overlap I don't think it will matter all that much for a month or two until they (according to update patterns, speculation, hope, etc.) update the powerbook line in september. I guess they could be overlapping for a month or two without too much of a problem if any... :)
 
My brothers friend works at my local Apple store, and he's not 100% sure, but he says the PB will be getting an update soon. He knew about the iBook update before word spread on the internet.
 
Plecky said:
Then again, if they do overlap I don't think it will matter all that much for a month or two until they (according to update patterns, speculation, hope, etc.) update the powerbook line in september. I guess they could be overlapping for a month or two without too much of a problem if any... :)

I agree with that....
But waiting for september reminds me wating for last january, when
there was a big excitement about the new pbs...and then?
Better forget about it.... !!
 
bermanu said:
I agree with that....
But waiting for september reminds me wating for last january, when
there was a big excitement about the new pbs...and then?
Better forget about it.... !!

Naaaa. Odds wise I'm seeing least likely to most.....

  • G5 PowerBooks in September (Not going to happen. Period.)
  • Intel PowerBooks in September. (Highly doubtful)
  • Freescale popin replacement chip PowerBooks in September. (Lets say 40% chance.)
  • Intel PowerBooks launching at MW in January with a release within the month. (40%? That sounds like a good number.)
  • Intel PowerBooks launching at MW in January with a release within 3 months. (Ummm I'm going to go 60/40% on that one.)
  • Intel PowerBooks by WWDC 2006. (I'd bet a paycheck on it.)

Or maybe not. The only ones I'm sure of is the top and the bottem ones. Everything else is up for speculation grabs.
 
jinzo012 said:
You guys need to stop bitching about iBook and PowerBook updates

HAHAHA! You must be new here!

If the above mentioned guys were to stop half the forum traffic would evaporate.
 
joeconvert said:
HAHAHA! You must be new here!

If the above mentioned guys were to stop half the forum traffic would evaporate.


Woah....So what happens next spring when the Dual core Pentium M's arrive...
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SiliconAddict said:
Naaaa. Odds wise I'm seeing least likely to most.....

  • G5 PowerBooks in September (Not going to happen. Period.)
  • Intel PowerBooks in September. (Highly doubtful)
  • Freescale popin replacement chip PowerBooks in September. (Lets say 40% chance.)
  • Intel PowerBooks launching at MW in January with a release within the month. (40%? That sounds like a good number.)
  • Intel PowerBooks launching at MW in January with a release within 3 months. (Ummm I'm going to go 60/40% on that one.)
  • Intel PowerBooks by WWDC 2006. (I'd bet a paycheck on it.)

Or maybe not. The only ones I'm sure of is the top and the bottem ones. Everything else is up for speculation grabs.

if the intel powerbooks are at wwdc when is the intel ibook? I was under the impression that the ibooks would go to intel first!
 
davidwes said:
if the intel powerbooks are at wwdc when is the intel ibook? I was under the impression that the ibooks would go to intel first!

That's what I thought. I seem to remember someone saying that the consumer products (Mac mini, iBook) would be ported over in first, then the Power-line of products like the PowerMacs and PowerBooks. However, this may not be true any anything can happen!
 
davidwes said:
if the intel powerbooks are at wwdc when is the intel ibook? I was under the impression that the ibooks would go to intel first!

Hmmmm maybe both iBooks and PowerBooks will be updated at MW? Jobs intros the iBooks and just one more thing....Or Maybe iBooks at MW and PowerBooks at WWDC? I still think Apple is going to use Dual cores for the PowerBooks and ULV Pentium M's for the iBooks. How cool will it be to get 6 hours from an iBook at full power? And YES you can get 6 hours off of Intel's ultra low voltage version of the Pentium M. :D
 
CoMpX said:
That's what I thought. I seem to remember someone saying that the consumer products (Mac mini, iBook) would be ported over in first, then the Power-line of products like the PowerMacs and PowerBooks. However, this may not be true any anything can happen!

They are making the switch for the portable lines. Right now, the G5 is fast, the PB G4 isn't up to par. They need a serious powerbook, PB will go intel first.
 
rickvanr said:
They are making the switch for the portable lines. Right now, the G5 is fast, the PB G4 isn't up to par. They need a serious powerbook, PB will go intel first.

Hmm...you are right...that is another way to look at it. Apple really does need to put some more power into the "Power"Books
 
KindredMAC said:
iBooks
13.1" Widescreen TFT Display
1.42GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache @1.42GHz
1024x655 resolution
512MB DDR266 SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
AirPort Extreme built-in
$999.00

13.1" Widescreen TFT Display
1.42GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache @1.42GHz
1024x655 resolution
512MB DDR266 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA Drive
Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
AirPort Extreme built-in
$1299.00


Mac mini
1.42GHz PowerPC G4
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
$499.00

1.42GHz PowerPC G4
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
Airport Extreme/Bluetooth built-in
$599.00

1.42GHz PowerPC G4
512MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA Drive
Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
Airport Extreme/Bluetooth built-in
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse included
$699.00

Very good prediction... but I think it'll be a little less generous:

iBooks
13.3" Widescreen TFT Display
1.33GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache @1.33GHz
1280x800 resolution (see this notebook for comparison)
512MB DDR266 SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
AirPort Extreme built-in
$999.00

13.3" Widescreen TFT Display
1.33GHz PowerPC G4
512K L2 cache @1.33GHz
1280x800 resolution
512MB DDR266 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA Drive
Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
AirPort Extreme built-in
$1299.00

(so essentially, widescreens... remember this is the "year of HD," core image capable GPUs and no processor speed bump.)

Mac mini
1.42GHz PowerPC G4
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
$499.00

1.42GHz PowerPC G4
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
60GB Ultra ATA Drive
Combo Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
Airport Extreme/Bluetooth built-in
$599.00

1.42GHz PowerPC G4
256MB DDR333 SDRAM
80GB Ultra ATA Drive
Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 (64MB DDR)
Airport Extreme/Bluetooth built-in
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse included
$699.00
 
Well, I can't cancel my order now, but at least I can get the price difference. With that extra money, maybe I'll buy some **** for my new iBook, maybe max out my RAM or something.
 
There's no way they'll load the iBooks with more than 256MB of RAM in anything other than the top-end model.
 
tikibangout said:
Well, I can't cancel my order now, but at least I can get the price difference. With that extra money, maybe I'll buy some **** for my new iBook, maybe max out my RAM or something.

Has the iBook shipped yet? If it doesn't ship before the announcement, you have a great chance at getting the update.
 
Laner said:
There's no way they'll load the iBooks with more than 256MB of RAM in anything other than the top-end model.

Why? With new machines, Apple has made 512MB standard across its entire product line save the eMac. I suppose it's possible, but I would think only the low end would stay at 256MB if anything...
 
Laner said:
There's no way they'll load the iBooks with more than 256MB of RAM in anything other than the top-end model.

What makes you say that? 256MB is the bare minimum you need for Tiger and I think that there's a pretty good chance that the iBooks will get 512 standard, except for possibly the lowest priced cofiguration available. That is, if any models at all have only 256 standard. and, when I say 512 standard, I don't mean that I want the regular 256 built in with 256 chip...that wouldn't make sense. I want 512 built in. That would be much better becasue then, you still have an empty slot for expansion.
 
everyone that is talking about the ibooks going intel its not going to happen at wwdc they said it would be a year theyre not going to do it this soon they want to wait until the developers can port more software to intel
 
am i the only person who really hopes that the revision doesn't replace the 12" ibook with a 13.1"? that change might even put me over the edge to a 12" powerbook. i have a 15.4" dell right now - the screen is amazing but i don't need the widescreen & i just want something small for travelling to campus & back home. i don't want that extra inch, but i seem to be one of the few.... :(
 
windowsforeyes said:
am i the only person who really hopes that the revision doesn't replace the 12" ibook with a 13.1"? that change might even put me over the edge to a 12" powerbook. i have a 15.4" dell right now - the screen is amazing but i don't need the widescreen & i just want something small for travelling to campus & back home. i don't want that extra inch, but i seem to be one of the few.... :(

Don't worry! I feel the same way. I really do hope that they keep the 12", becasue of the fact that it is so small and portable. I will mostly be using my iBook for high school, so I want to have the lighest package as possible to carry around every day.
 
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