Stonecoldcleric said:
I wonder if they will still keep two separte portable lines or if they will merge them. There could also be form factor differences if they do keep the two lines seprate.
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I wonder if they will still keep two separte portable lines or if they will merge them. There could also be form factor differences if they do keep the two lines seprate.
I don't see why they would merge them, since they are appealing to 2 different market groups.NYmacAttack said:
Rosetta..
I've just been reading this -
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/index.html
It makes me wonder just how much will work under Rosetta when these new MacTels (or as I'd like to call them, MacTops)..
M.
I've just been reading this -
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/index.html
It makes me wonder just how much will work under Rosetta when these new MacTels (or as I'd like to call them, MacTops)..
M.
You bring up a good point, but Apple would introduce upgraded Powerbooks just last month so that they could get rid of all the G4 models that they have in stock. An upgraded LCD and a DL superdrive are easy enough to swap out. Notice how the G4 sits and collects dust though.Stonecoldcleric said:
Apple could easily move the iBook to an intel processor and have little affect on the powerbook. If you look at the two lines now, all that really seperates them is the harddrive (7200 vs 4200), graphics card (128MB vs 32MB), SuperDrive, and screen size/resolution. These are the reasons people buy a PowerBook, not its G4 processor which has sucked for a long time now. The intel processor might be faster, but we won't know now much faster until benchmarks are done. It might not be a huge difference.
I doubt Apple is going to make a iBook with 17" widescreen, 7200 RPM, 128MB graphics, and SuperDrive so don't worry so much PowerBook sales.
lasuther
I doubt Apple is going to make a iBook with 17" widescreen, 7200 RPM, 128MB graphics, and SuperDrive so don't worry so much PowerBook sales.
lasuther
NYmacAttack said:
I think you'll see the 12" PowerBook and 14" iBook merge into a widescreen model. Other than that, the laptop line has been slimming down for awhile.
About the Apple software...
I would suggest that by far the majority of in house Apple software is going to have been ported to Universal Binaries (UBs) by now, regardless of if it was a big secret within Apple until a few months back.
Why? Well because if a developer is using Apple's own development tools it appears pretty simple to tweak it into a very usable UB bit of code (and yes I realise that it takes effort to optimise and test and stuff, but hey, this isn't a mom and pop kinda outfit now, is it?), and I would suggest that Apple is likely to have been developing using their own platform, no?
I look forward to finding out what Steve has in store for us, but what I'm really looking forward to is the 'one more thing...' which I hope is going to be a bit more than a new shuffle, and something that we have no clue about until that very moment, but all immediately need one in out lives
I would suggest that by far the majority of in house Apple software is going to have been ported to Universal Binaries (UBs) by now, regardless of if it was a big secret within Apple until a few months back.
Why? Well because if a developer is using Apple's own development tools it appears pretty simple to tweak it into a very usable UB bit of code (and yes I realise that it takes effort to optimise and test and stuff, but hey, this isn't a mom and pop kinda outfit now, is it?), and I would suggest that Apple is likely to have been developing using their own platform, no?
I look forward to finding out what Steve has in store for us, but what I'm really looking forward to is the 'one more thing...' which I hope is going to be a bit more than a new shuffle, and something that we have no clue about until that very moment, but all immediately need one in out lives
AidenShaw said:
Throughput: Pentium 4 = 1 integer multiplication every five cycles. G4: One integer multiplication every cycle. No way to avoid this, you have to wait. High latency is also a killer if you have dependent operations in a loop, because at some point your pipelines are stuffed, and then you wait. And wait. And wait.
Actually bench marks were done, and the dual core Yonah holds it's own against AMD 64-bit desktop computers. Which is near unheard of performance from a laptop.lasuther said:
That's true. Now tell them about the Pentium M being nothing like the Pentium 4, besides the bus interface. (I don't think Apple is planning on useing the P4)gnasher729 said:
Peace said:Since none of us work for Apple's software engineering this is all hyperbole considering the NDA involved in such a move..
I will concede the possibility that few engineers knew about the transition but Apple has a water cooler just like any other company
There are things that you talk about at the water cooler, but when your manager asked you to sign an NDA to work on some new stuff (on top of the usual NDA that you signed to get hired), and gave you a new office with a door that can be locked, and told you to lock the door whenever you leave it, and told you that Steve Jobs will come personally and rip your head off if you talk, then you don't talk.
Randall said:
This what I mean. It is a huge assumption that Apple will release a $1000 iBook with the performance of a AMD 64bit desktop. The reality of what Apple brings us in 3 more weeks might be quite different. We need to see the benchmarks of the actual iBook after its released. Apple has always done a good job of crippling the iBook line, I see no reason why this will be any different.
lasuther
digitalbiker said:
Your business partner most likely has his laptop running at something like 800MHz, because Intel SpeedStep slows down the cpu when it's not used much. It doesn't seem to work very well in Windows, as mine (Pentium-M 1.7GHz) usually stays at 600MHz even if I'm doing stuff that could really use more speed.
The energy saving settings in Windows can make it always run at its maximum speed ("Always on" setting).
I thought SpeedStep (or some other Intel technology) also slowed down the CPU when it started to run hot. i.e. it'll run slower if it's underused or fully utilized for an extended period of time. I hope the new Intel books have good thermal management.reflex said:
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Randall said:Ever heard of Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel? I know a bunch of people hate M$ on this board, but no matter how much you hate them you have to admit, Word and Excel are some of the best word processor and spreadsheets around. Office 2004 for Mac is awsome, and I expect 2006 to be great as well. Office is one application suite that Microsoft did right.
I happen to think that the Microsoft Office Suite is one the worst Software suites I have ever been forced to use. I will agree that Word, Excel, & Powerpoint are good. But have you ever tried going past just those, such as Publisher or Frontpage? They don't work together at all! If you try to copy something out of Publisher and into Word, it re-aranges everything, it's awful. No, this is not a suite, but a set of similar programs that hate each other!~Shard~ said:
Oh sorry I was talking about the Mac version, which rules! Yeah Publisher and Frontpage are sub-par, I personally use GoLive. I don't even know why Microsoft still has Publisher, because it's a dinosaur. In all seriousness, nothing compairs to MS Excel. Nothing. It is by far and away the best spreadsheet application available. Open Office doesn't even come close, not by a longshot. (I am not a Microsoft Fanboi, but I recognise a quality application when I see it.)EricNau said:
My personal list of the best at what they do:
Imaging: Adobe Creative Suite
Web: Adobe GoLive
Video: Apple Final Cut Studio Pro
Music: Apple iTunes
Office: Microsoft Office
OS: Apple OS X
Games: Blizzard Entertainment and Ensemble Studios (tie)
Granted I haven't purchased an MS Office product for 3 years but it was my understanding that Publisher and Frontpage were not part of the MS Office suite.
It's not included in the Mac version, nor the cheaper Windows version, but if you buy the Deluxe plus plus, super-duper suite it comes with those, but the super-duper pack costs like a billion dollars!Peace said:
Randall said:
Yes, the mac Office version is great. Adobe GoLive is good, but I don't love it either. I think I would like the Dramweaver interface more, but I was forced to learn GoLive, so that is what I use.
And for Music, you can't beat iTunes.
Haven't gotten too involved with video...yet.
alep85 said:
I give up.
*bangs head into keyboard* G&I T*&&<>7876,tS&*<
Does anyone even read some of the previous posts before they respond? Whatever. I guess people on the board are more object lesson oriented. Steve'o will provide this in a few weeks.
EricNau said:It's not included in the Mac version, nor the cheaper Windows version, but if you buy the Deluxe plus plus, super-duper suite it comes with those, but the super-duper pack costs like a billion dollars!
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/howtobuy/compare.mspx
Nowhere do I see Frontpage included in any edition.
Stonecoldcleric said:
geeeeeee, another whiner !!!!!!
oh my pb ! oh my pb! oh my pb ! oh my pb slower than his iBook !!!!
I don't think there are that many, the problem is that the few of them are all here at MacRumors