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I haven't heard much about iMacs lately. Happy to see the other models (particularly portables) get updated, but I was looking forward to getting an Intel-based iMac to replace my Mac mini. Hope I don't have to wait too long. :(
 
iDM said:
This is gonna sound like a wet blanket comment but I am currently on a 1.25ghz G4 powerbook and even though I upped the ram I have not had a single time where I have had to wait for programs to open or iPhoto to load with 10K in pictures. I guess this will really help people doing editing of Video work and what not. So even though a dual-core would obviously demolish this machine I really would have no use for it. I'm looking at my new computer possibly being a Quad PowerMac once the top of the line PowerMacs are given these Intel behemoths.
This isn't making sense to me. Why don't you get an old used PowerMac G4? Since "I have not had a single time where I have had to wait for programs to open or iPhoto to load with 10K in pictures" on your powerbook?

You could buy a couple monitors with the money you'd save.
 
the fastes old powermac G4 was only dual 1.42GHz, once there are new intel powermacs the quad G5s will go WAY down in price (the dual 2.5 is now worth around $2k, when it was worth over $3k a few years ago) so I figure by the time intel powermacs are commonplace (by 2007ish) the price of the current Quad will be signifigantly lowered, and also by then programs will be more demanding and we will probably have 10.5 by then, and more processing power will be better for that as well.

More Power is never a liability
 
Anyone still holding on to the idea that Powerbooks are coming before iBooks needs to be slapped. Apple is quick to replace its older products with newer ones but not that quick. For the last few years it has always been the same schedule for updates on products. Low end in the beginning of the year & high end later in the year. Why would apple ever replace a powerbook model after only a few months. That is completley illogical for the current patterns we've seen from apple.
 
Don't you dummies realize they can still launch an updated PB line a few days later? Apple's been known to do huge announcements at MWSF, and then do even bigger ones a few days after.

Or just as big ones!

Whatever they wish to do *shrug* I already have a laptop and don't even really care about the whole x86 thing, but new macs = New Macs, and that means new things to drool over at MacWorld, so I'm looking forward to it!

Plus my bro will be getting a new Mac Mini sooner or later, and the next gen one will be the ticket now (or a firehouse sale G4 one!)
 
Diatribe said:
iBooks before Powerbooks wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

If you're paying attention yes... yes it would.

iBooks are consumer products, Apple already had ported their iLife and iWorks to Intel binaries, these products will run already optimized on new machines without the Rosett performance hit, and this is important, not to mention iBooks, Mac Minis, and iMacs are (at the moment) equal to larger sellers than the "performance" machines (PowerMacs, Powerbooks).

The latter machines are usually, in some mindset, for professionals (though this isn't exclusive). Adobe, Macromedia, 'insert pro app here', will all take a massive Rosetta hit, one that would be oft putting to I'm sure probably yourself (if you use those) or anyone.

Consumer software by Apple is ready to go with Intel, and the new consumer line up of hardware is ready, this will also give some type of test bed for the roadmap. It's the most logical fit from a business perspective, maybe not to all the Powerbook "wah boohoo where's my G5 PB" types, but then again, Powerbook whiners haven't used logic in these parts since 2001.
 
(Just about 100% off topic, but it's a reply to the iMac question)

iMac won't come for another 4 or 5 months right? This iMac was basically for the Holiday season and it will carry for awhile. Who knows what the iMac will become if there is truly a mac mini media device. Is the iMac going to become a media hub with the display screen included? Maybe bigger displays?

What if it was a projector? Set up your computer to face the wall and use the wall as your screen. That way you could put it close to a wall to use it like a computer, or put it way back to use it like a movie screen. :p

Or is the iMac going to become a more serious computing device...

You know, I'd like to see a little Apple terminal type thing that you keep around the kitchen by the phone, but very portable. You know, so friends and family can grab it and put it anywhere to surf, or show you their website, or check their mail... but you put it back by the phone and use it for addresses and directions and recipes and playing music. Like a tinier version of the original iMac with a mega cheap screen to keep the costs down and an all in one design (maybe with an attached keyboard and track pad and a dock for iPods... hmm... The processor could be slow, too...

What AM I going on about? :D
 
JoeG4 said:
Don't you dummies realize they can still launch an updated PB line a few days later?

No... no they don't realize, hence this thread may turn into a typical PB WhinerFest™.
 
Mac Mini Media Center UK Spec

I wonder if the Mac Mini will be able to work as a Freeview box?

Certainly got bags of grunt to do it.

Some sort of USB adaptor to get a signal in?
 
nubrandon said:
Anyone still holding on to the idea that Powerbooks are coming before iBooks needs to be slapped. Apple is quick to replace its older products with newer ones but not that quick. For the last few years it has always been the same schedule for updates on products. Low end in the beginning of the year & high end later in the year. Why would apple ever replace a powerbook model after only a few months. That is completley illogical for the current patterns we've seen from apple.
Are you gonna slap me with your iBook? If that is the only reason you have for not upgrading the Powerbook then it is you that needs the slapping. :D
 
Photorun said:
No... no they don't realize, hence this thread may turn into a typical PB WhinerFest™.

Lol

So, SO true.

"I've spent £1500 on my Powerbook and a £1,00,000 IBM supercompuer goes faster, I WANT MY MONEY BACK" etc
 
Photorun said:
... but then again, Powerbook whiners haven't used logic in these parts since 2001.
Well said!

Luckily most of the people here are not running businesses ... (into the ground!)
 
Photorun said:
No... no they don't realize, hence this thread may turn into a typical PB WhinerFest™.
As funny as this is, if I paid close to double what you paid, i'd expect a superior machine. Upgrading the iBooks to Mactels (and leaving the G4 in the Powerbook) is not only bad business, it's just plain stupid. Anything that has a G4 in it should be gone by the time the ball drops in Times Square to 2006. Replace the Mac mini, Powerbook, and iBook with better processors. (Of course the best of the best will be reserved for the Powerbook).
 
I think they would have to release them at the sdame time (ibook & powerbook) or else you will have your consumer line more powerful than your professional line.

I think if you see one, you will se the other...
 
Ive only been a Mac user for a few short months, but im getting tired of these 'rumours' sites already. How long are they going to come out with this 'our sources...' bull? So far, weve been told by'our sources' that Macworld will display new Powerbooks, no Powerbooks, Mac Minis, iBooks, iWork, iPhoto with Aperture features, Cinema Displays, possibly a new entertainment hub, Front Row 2.0, thinner laptops (hilarious), Yonahs, dual core Yonahs, no dual core Yonahs til Summer, no Firewire, Firewire 800, increased Nano flash storage, new Shuffles etc

Is there anything these sites and 'our sources' have NOT suggested that will appear at Macworld? Its like, whatever IS announced they will be sure to post their obligatory 'as reported by us 6 months ago'. Common sense dictates that anything other than iMacs and Powermacs can appear at Macworld, so why do people still take these rumour sites so seriously?

Lets just sit quietly and look forward to what will be a landmark event.
 
slb said:
I haven't heard much about iMacs lately. Happy to see the other models (particularly portables) get updated, but I was looking forward to getting an Intel-based iMac to replace my Mac mini. Hope I don't have to wait too long. :(

Hmm... I might be the only one left on this board that thinks this, but...the iMac G5 is not really a slow computer. If you need a new Mac, I can't see anything wrong with going G5 at this time. You would be suprised at the performance increase going from a Mac Mini to an iMac G5 right now.
 
It may not be a question of what they WANT to do. Perhaps they're waiting to put the post-yonah chips into powerbooks, which might take longer to come out. In the meantime, why wait on the ibooks just so they don't outpower the powerbooks? Just a question of patience on our part.
 
muffinman said:
i dont ever think the new ibook will replace the upcoming new powerbook.

I wonder if the new shuffles will have screens? colour hopefully?

I don't get why so many people want to see a shuffle with a screen. I just don't get it! If you want a larger capacity iPod with a screen, then go for a nano. That's exactly why they are there. The price may be a little more up there, but it's worth it for what you are getting. I don't own a shuffle yet, but I will sooner or later. I won't be buying one in hope of a screen. It'd be my "throw it in my pocket and forget it" MP3 player. It's small and sleek. It's perfect without a screen. It is selling so well, so why dramatically change it? The only shuffle update I see coming is an increase in capacity.
 
bearcat2000 said:
BTW...First post

What do you want, a cookie? :rolleyes: :cool:

Diatribe said:
iBooks before Powerbooks wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

Yes, but keep in mind Apple did essentially the same thing with the iMacs and PowerMacs. The new iMacs came out with PCIe graphics and DDR2 RAM before the PowerMacs, which followed soon thereafter. The iBooks haven't been updated as recently as the PowerBooks have, so I could see this strategy being implemented - release the dual core Yonahs in the iBooks, then the "performance" version in the PowerBooks shortly thereafter.

As for the Mac mini, I would love to see it turn into some sort of PVR/DVR - I wonder if there will be a tie-in with VIIV...
 
I want my new and improved PowerBook now damn it! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! I've been waiting 3 years. If I have to wait another 4 months I'm going to go on a homicidal rampage!
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Yah yah I know....
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p0intblank said:
I don't get why so many people want to see a shuffle with a screen. I just don't get it! If you want a larger capacity iPod with a screen, then go for a nano. That's exactly why they are there. The price may be a little more up there, but it's worth it for what you are getting. I don't own a shuffle yet, but I will sooner or later. I won't be buying one in hope of a screen. It'd be my "throw it in my pocket and forget it" MP3 player. It's small and sleek. It's perfect without a screen. It is selling so well, so why dramatically change it? The only shuffle update I see coming is an increase in capacity.

Better yet, tell me why NOT have a screen? An OLED one at that. Some sort of visual feedback on what im listening to would be nice, without having to spend the extra $ on a Nano. what if I want to skip to a part of a podcast I know is at the 20:57 timescale. How do i do that without a screen?

Also, especially given that the Shuffle is perfect for the gym, and the Nano is a bit too precious for ruff and tumble (not that it would break, just easily mark).

Just because you like it without a screen, doesnt mean its perfect without a screen.

For me, 512mb / 1gb is the sweetspot for a Shuffle. 1GB without a screen isnt that cool.

Nano can be pushed to 4gb / 6gb etc.

Please stop with this Shuffle + Screen = nano nonsense. There is a market for both.
 
~Shard~ said:
What do you want, a cookie? :rolleyes: :cool:



Yes, but keep in mind Apple did essentially the same thing with the iMacs and PowerMacs. The new iMacs came out with PCIe graphics and DDR2 RAM before the PowerMacs, which followed soon thereafter. The iBooks haven't been updated as recently as the PowerBooks have, so I could see this strategy being implemented - release the dual core Yonahs in the iBooks, then the "performance" version in the PowerBooks shortly thereafter.

As for the Mac mini, I would love to see it turn into some sort of PVR/DVR - I wonder if there will be a tie-in with VIIV...
I don't consider a Higher Resolution screen an "upgrade" any more then just a "Sorry we can't get the G5 into a Powerbook, so here is your higher resolution screen to hold you over until June of 2006 because we're going to make the iBooks better then your Powerbook I hope you don't mind"
 
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