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New iBooks Released
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This would be to have lower pricing and other issues , so the iBook's FSB does not reach the speed of a PB onechanoc said:
chanoc said:
Yes, very outdated. That's an artificial limitation just like the video out on the iBook is restricted to mirroring. Dirty tactics in my opinion. Where else are you going to find a modern day laptop at any price range that doesn't support second monitor on the video out port ? Or any laptop that has its FSB lowered for the sake of "consumer level" ?
I guess when one can't sink any lower, one always finds new ways to slide downwards.
The powerbooks only have a 167MHz FSB.. 167!!!! They're LOWERING the FSB on the G5 iMac to 600MHz! and my $3000 PB has a 167MHz FSB.. insanity. Get the damn G4 out the door asap.
Maxx Power said:
Hector said:
So your agreeing you DO need a crunchy big video RAM to make real use of the CoreImage ? Sure compatibility is one thing but surely the VRAM will have a big impact...?
it will mirror the lcd since it is a ibook. there is a hack out there that lets you do a monitor spanning. there you can put the resolution higher, or just get a powerbook.stevep said:
crap man for the fsb is so slow because of heat issues. really. The g4 is a wonderful machine. I could understand putting a faster bus on the desktops but my 1.0 ghz powerbook is faster then i really did imagine. (and i do dual screen video editing.)Some_Big_Spoon said:
oops! i double posted. sorry.
Thanks - I knew one of you would know.
So an iBook for portability, with a big monitor on the desk at home, plus the hack (on another thread) to connect an external DVD writer for iDVD.
Which means I don't have to secretly really want / need a PowerBook....
One of the Mods can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the FSB on the G4 can't go about 200MHz, no matter how much over clocking they do to the chip (i.e. 1.5GHz G4 is over clocked 1.33).
I'd like a faster laptop one way or another and the FSB and memory addressing on the G5's are very, very speedy.
I'd like a faster laptop one way or another and the FSB and memory addressing on the G5's are very, very speedy.
jackieonasses said:
Apple needs to raise the resolution and overall lcd quality on the 12" powerbook to further differentiate it from the iBook line.
The iBook and 12" Powerbook LCD screens are really crappy compared to alot of other laptops and the 15" PBooks. The colours are poor and they are quite dim under regular lights.
I would love if my PowerBook had a resolution that was higher than the bare minimum. 1280x1024 would be perfect.
The iBook and 12" Powerbook LCD screens are really crappy compared to alot of other laptops and the 15" PBooks. The colours are poor and they are quite dim under regular lights.
I would love if my PowerBook had a resolution that was higher than the bare minimum. 1280x1024 would be perfect.
The front side buss is low on paper but we all know that in real world use the G4 is not far behind many of its p4 or pm or amd counterparts,especially when you consider the portability of the PB and the iBook.Yes the new P4 laptops with a 533 front side buss are faster but they also way 8 or 9 pounds.Its all give and take i guess. 
NOT SO!!!! Everyone read this, please. Check out the sony site: Sony Ultraportable
Leave aside the RAM & HD limitations due to the thiness, this has a 1.1GHz Processor and a 400MHz FSB.. 400! It's not the heat, it's not the packaging, it's the lmitations of the chip that Apple hitched it's wagon to.
EDIT: and a 1MB L2 Cache.. *sigh*
Leave aside the RAM & HD limitations due to the thiness, this has a 1.1GHz Processor and a 400MHz FSB.. 400! It's not the heat, it's not the packaging, it's the lmitations of the chip that Apple hitched it's wagon to.
EDIT: and a 1MB L2 Cache.. *sigh*
CaptainCaveMann said:The front side buss is low on paper but we all know that in real world use the G4 is not far behind many of its p4 or pm or amd counterparts,especially when you consider the portability of the PB and the iBook.Yes the new P4 laptops with a 533 front side buss are faster but they also way 8 or 9 pounds.Its all give and take i guess.
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Umm, that thing is $3,000, it only runs at 1.1 GHz, it has integrated graphics with shared memory, only a 20GB hard drive and no internal optical drive? No thanks, I'll take a 12" iBook or PowerBook over that overpriced thing any day.
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Will this work on the new iBooks? No issues with different firmware or something like that? It also violates the warranty does it? How serious is that? I really want to know cause I want to buy one and I also want to use it as a desktop replacement with external monitor and keyboard.
ibook screen question
I think now is a good time to buy an ibook if any. but whats usually held me back is the screen (and the cheap key board they have on ibooks now kinda bite). I currently have an 800 mhz powerbook, but over the coming months, i'm planning to buy a new desktop and laptop and get rid of this one.
apples says the new ibooks have a TFT XVGA screen. My question is how does the screen resolution and image quality compare to a powerbook. has the ibook screen improved over the last couple years, cos as i rememeber it the powerbook always had a noticibly better screen, in which case i don't want an ibook. anyone know?
I think now is a good time to buy an ibook if any. but whats usually held me back is the screen (and the cheap key board they have on ibooks now kinda bite). I currently have an 800 mhz powerbook, but over the coming months, i'm planning to buy a new desktop and laptop and get rid of this one.
apples says the new ibooks have a TFT XVGA screen. My question is how does the screen resolution and image quality compare to a powerbook. has the ibook screen improved over the last couple years, cos as i rememeber it the powerbook always had a noticibly better screen, in which case i don't want an ibook. anyone know?
iMeowbot said:
Now that really isn't the point is it????
Frankly all this update is, in my estimation, is the minmal required for Apple to be able to advertise the iBooks as new or improved for the holiday season. Beyond that it really isn't much of an update.
Other have already pointed out just how stale the current design of the iBook is. Maybe Apple is waiting for March to do a proper overhaul of the line. I really don't know my self, what I do know is that it would be silly for anybody to go out an buy any new Mac hardware at this point that doesn't have support for Core Imagining. One can imply that the CPU will take care of the processing that owuld be off loaded to the GPU, but what I think we will see is that alot of realtime capability will go out the window. So far out the window in fact that it might not be worthwhile to run CI at all on none compliant machines.
Thanks
Dave
Was speaking more to the powerbook, as per previous posts, and it's 167MHz bus.
Mitthrawnuruodo said:And a $3000 price tag...
Not very competitive with the 12" iBook...
Was really talking about the bus speed that's capable in a small space, not a model to model comparison. Maybe I should speak slower next time.
Lancetx said:
iBook Upgrade is very Minor
I just want to add my 2 cents
For all those who brought the last line of iBook G4 including myself i find that the current update of the Apple iBook G4 is a Mere Ripple in Ocean.
The Specs compared to my current iBook G4 is Really very Minor i brought my iBook in July 2004 and compared to the latest iBook is really not much to go out and upgrade.
My IBook G4 was the 14" model with the combo drive the latest iBook has a small increase in CPU speed, a added Wireless Airport card and a 20G more Hard Drive space all this for $100-$110 less then the previous iBook that is ok with me!, i am not worried about that, I think the best way to look at this situation is b4 you upgrade your 2+ month old iBook, you should wait till OSX Tiger comes out next year and you might get lucky and Apple will further upgrade the iBook to a G5. also remember that these new iBooks still come with the base 256Mb Ram which is too low to run OSX Applications for todays standards. I am Happy with my Current iBook and i think nothing of the latest update of the iBook. for me change has to be very big! a iBook G5 with 512Mb, 80G HDD is a Major Change worth upgrading to.
I just want to add my 2 cents
For all those who brought the last line of iBook G4 including myself i find that the current update of the Apple iBook G4 is a Mere Ripple in Ocean.
The Specs compared to my current iBook G4 is Really very Minor i brought my iBook in July 2004 and compared to the latest iBook is really not much to go out and upgrade.
My IBook G4 was the 14" model with the combo drive the latest iBook has a small increase in CPU speed, a added Wireless Airport card and a 20G more Hard Drive space all this for $100-$110 less then the previous iBook that is ok with me!, i am not worried about that, I think the best way to look at this situation is b4 you upgrade your 2+ month old iBook, you should wait till OSX Tiger comes out next year and you might get lucky and Apple will further upgrade the iBook to a G5. also remember that these new iBooks still come with the base 256Mb Ram which is too low to run OSX Applications for todays standards. I am Happy with my Current iBook and i think nothing of the latest update of the iBook. for me change has to be very big! a iBook G5 with 512Mb, 80G HDD is a Major Change worth upgrading to.