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New iMac and Mac Mini Models to Retain Current Pricing, Add 8 GB RAM Module Options

The word "option" is confusing me here.

Do the new Mac-Minis come with 8gb of ram installed or is this an upgrade option when you buy directly from Apple?

Are we still stuck with 2gb out of box?
 
mganai said:
At this point I don't really care for anything above 1080p if the onboard graphics can't handle it without hiccups.

I wonder if they're targeting CPUs with HD4000 for the i5s for the sake of benefits via Hyperformance.
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The issue isn't in the ability to push pixels (except in the case of some games). The issue is the efficiency of the algorithms and compositor.
 
I'm hoping our price for the top model comes down, right now the top 27" is $2299 here in AU.

So if I can get the 27" with i7, 8Gb RAM and cheaper SSD then I'm all for it! Even if the design doesn't change this time.
 
Anuba said:
10:30 AM - Tim Cook announces the iMac 40".
10:31 AM - Unimpressed MacRumors member writes "I'll wait for the Retina model."
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I dont think they will say much at all about the imac. You have to remember they will have the video with the white background that takes about 30 minutes citing the exact same things they said in the previous keynote video. One paragraph of dialogue as well takes them 30 minutes with the constant pauses. They will use said video for the magical iPad mini. My guess anyway.
 
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I just hope there isn't some silly downgrade again between higher-end configs, like with the high end 27" config carrying an i5 2400 (3.1 GHz) by default, vs. the 2500S (2.7 GHz) of the lower 27". The former may run higher by default, but the latter runs faster on single/dual core on turbo. Not to mention costs a bit more. But clearly Apple used the numbers to justify said tiering.

Edit: Oh, and that they don't skimp on the graphics for the non top end models, which topped at 6770M last year.
 
Jinzen said:
Mac Pro is getting a 2013 update, thought this was already confirmed by Apple months ago. Move along.
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Actually, no. Tim Cook said that Apple would have "something great for our Pro users later in 2013." Not necessarily a Mac Pro update, though that might be what it winds up being. For all we know, Apple might release an entierly different type of desktop or server machine at that point. In a tremendous insult it could technically just be a beefier notebook, though I would hope to think Cook wouldn't have characterized it that way in the wake of dissatisfaction with a notebook upgrade that wasn't accompanied by a desktop upgrade, at the time.
 
zero chance for retina iMacs, the sales for iMacs are already so slow as it is but to increase for it would be a the end of the lineup
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
How does that change anything I said before? I don't want to mess with any screws on a new machine if I don't have to - not even one.
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Are you actually serious? Or are you just pulling our chain? You can't possibly be serious? It's a tiny little trap door. You don't even have to open the machine up. It takes all of two minutes or less! It's about as easy as changing the battery in your TV remote control. But if you are serious... well... I know don't what to say. But it is a huge waste of money. Apple charges insane amounts for RAM. BTO RAM upgrades really only make sense for non-user-serviceable products (with soldered on RAM) like the Air.
 
Also, if they were adding retina displays to iMacs, there would also be evidence of a new Thunderbolt Display coming out, assuming Apple did the right thing and updated that too. And no new screen parts were leaked.
 
Mike Valmike said:
Actually, no. Tim Cook said that Apple would have "something great for our Pro users later in 2013." Not necessarily a Mac Pro update, though that might be what it winds up being. For all we know, Apple might release an entierly different type of desktop or server machine at that point. In a tremendous insult it could technically just be a beefier notebook, though I would hope to think Cook wouldn't have characterized it that way in the wake of dissatisfaction with a notebook upgrade that wasn't accompanied by a desktop upgrade, at the time.
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"Actually, no. Tim Cook said that Apple would have "something great for our Pro users later in 2013.""

You're 100% correct. Too many people automatically assume it'll be a new Mac Pro. If you check out the link below, Sharp has shown a 31.5" 4K display. Just to speculate maybe Apple will release an iMac Pro with this 4K display and have that as their answer for the pro market. Who knows.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1428193/4k-i-have-seen-the-light/60
 
People who continue to blather about making a retina display iMac seem to me to be as knowledgable in engineering and material design as those people who seriously think we should build airplanes out of the same stuff we use to make the "black box" flight recorders.

Make a 27" retina iMac, beef it up with the strongest CPU on the market and next year's best GPU, and it will struggle to provide consistent frame rates or GUI responsiveness.

Build that airplane out of the black box materials, and I guarantee two things:
1. It will weigh a LOT more, increasing fuel costs and structural stress.
2. When it crashes, it will look exactly like a crashed plane built of conventional materials.
 
classicaliberal said:
If this is true, then what's the point of buying an iMac anymore? The storage space and the speed of the desktop class HD's is really the only benefit an iMac holds over a Macbook Pro combined with a Thunderbolt Display.
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Because many people. inc myself, like the one piece form factor. I have two iMacs, one for my for home work office and another upstairs used only for my music setup with my 80 songs for a wholehouse music. Love having the iMac with an external HD for my lossless tunes.
 
flopticalcube said:
Well... you make a lot of assumptions about what people use their computers for. If we go to the high end, the assumed new CPU for the iMac, the i7-3770, is twice as fast as the i7-3520m MBP.


A 680M is more than twice as fast as a 650M. Furthermore, the additional 1GB of VRAM will be most helpful at the high display resolutions above 1080p particularly for gaming and CAD. Most modern games will present framerate issues with a 650M 1GB at 1440p unless the details are turned down.


For anything processor intensive or GPU intensive, the iMac will (if it gets updated) easily surpass the high-end MBP and at a much lower price if you include the 27" display. If you don't find saving money appealing, you may well want to opt for the slower and more expensive MBP.
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Thanks for the information - seriously. I'm debating between the two options actually. I do a lot of video editing, and a bit of photoshop, and besides the storage they seemed about the same to me. It's amazing to me that there would be that big of difference in CPU speed.
 
whawhat said:
So does this mean no updated design for the iMac?
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Yeah because the current design sucks?

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iMacFarlane said:
Build that airplane out of the black box materials, and I guarantee two things:
1. It will weigh a LOT more, increasing fuel costs and structural stress.
2. When it crashes, it will look exactly like a crashed plane built of conventional materials.
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I for one had no idea that black boxes were a poor choice for building airplanes. Thanks for the tip.
 
Anuba said:
That's Apple for ya... love their products but hate their audacious combination of premium pricing AND corner cutting. I remember when the first Mac Mini was introduced and everyone was like "Ha! See? Apple CAN make affordable products, this thing's a steal!" Right, but... once you scrutinized the specs you found stuff that hadn't been in computers for ages, stuff they must've acquired by asking their suppliers if they could get a bargain deal on the scrap pile outside the factory. 32 MB video RAM, 4200 RPM drive with laughable capacity... and of course none of the usual accessories like keyboard and mouse... they had somehow managed to make a computer that was dirt cheap AND overpriced.
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no kidding. the 256 mb of ram in the mini really irritates me. its like what recycling center are they getting these 256 modules from. its increasingly irritating every year that they use it.
 
I assume the iMac and Mac-Mini will both handle 1080p HDTV just fine and probably a couple of streams of those. The integrated HD4000 or whatever is rated by Intel to support 2K and 4K.

I wonder if a system with a dedicated graphics card or even better, an external GPU system via TB could possibly support multi-stream 4K and 8K (UHDTV)? Belkin, NVIDIA, OWC?

/. said:
"During the 12th Annual Global LambdaGrid Workshop in Chicago, researchers have demonstrated interactive multi-point streaming of 8K/UHDTV (i.e., 16x Full HD resolution) using commodity PC hardware running Linux and open-source UltraGrid software. The transmissions featured GPU-accelerated JPEG and DXT compressions implemented using the NVIDIA CUDA platform, which are also available as open-source software. The streams were distributed from the source to one location in the USA and to another location in the Czech Republic over 10Gbps GLIF network infrastructure."
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http://www.ces.net/doc/press/2012/pr121017.html

http://ultragrid.sitola.cz/
 
ollyb said:
I can't actually believe that there are people out there who thought the iMac would come with a retina display, so had put "a little extra aside" to afford the uplift. A 27" retina iMac wouldn't come in at under $15k.
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Agreed. But the iPhone and Retina MacBook have spoiled me; I won't consider an iMac until it *does* have a Retina display.
 
spork183 said:
In other news, the new iMac will ship with IDE drives, standard...
:D
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The sad thing is that you're not too far off from the truth.

As an Apple fanboy, before the coming of the iPod and iPhone, I am truly disappointed with Apple.
 
mdelvecchio said:
...how has the new super thin ipod touch sacrificed function? it has an even better screen and gear than before. only thing i can think of is the lack of an ambient light sensor, which is pretty trivial.
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If it was so trivial, why did Apple include it previous generations? Also, if a design becomes so restrictive that there is no more room to add new things (i.e. there is still no GPS) then the design needs to be reconsidered. Ive himself even said that "form needs to always follow function". Not so sure at happened with this version of the iPod Touch.
 
Yebubbleman said:
What does this mean for some of us 2012 non-retina MacBook Pro users? Will Apple change the maximum supported RAM capacity with these modules or will it be something that they reserve for these Mac minis and iMacs considering they are not of a lame duck design (and not "the future of the product line" per se)?
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You can currently buy 3rd party 8GB modules for these, you just can't get them as a BTO option from Apple.
 
whawhat said:
So does this mean no updated design for the iMac?
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I'd say at most we might see some minor updates but it all depends if the retina iMac is part of the main line or a new model, aka the MBP.

Again if this is basically just an internal Ivy Bridge update then why couldn't it have happened back in June?
 
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