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Originally posted by MrMacman
Well do people really need the 19".
We should have a poll, I mean 17" is really nice but 19" I can imagine would be enormous.
It would be almost exactly the same as the 20 inch
 
The real world influence

While there is talk of war Apple would not be rushing to release consumer-class products. PowerMacs are aimed at industry and the flat panel displays are for the rich. If you are a consumer you are better off saving your money and forgetting about gadgets.
 
The real world influence

While there is talk of war Apple would not be rushing to release consumer-class products. PowerMacs are aimed at industry and the flat panel displays are for the rich. If you are a consumer you are better off saving your money and forget about the gadgets.
 
Re: The real world influence

Originally posted by Sol
While there is talk of war Apple would not be rushing to release consumer-class products. PowerMacs are aimed at industry and the flat panel displays are for the rich. If you are a consumer you are better off saving your money and forget about the gadgets.

"Every party needs a pooper, that's why we invited you--Party Pooper! Party Pooper!"

:D

<sigh> You're prolly right...I just wish you weren't. Thought: what if Apple's gadget has been in dev' for months--long before George started talkin' hardball--would they really delay the date? I'm talking in broad, flaming post-inducing generalities here, but-- 'They' say that corporations are sitting on their money right now. Makes sense. But that doesn't necessarily speak for consumer behavior...

(thinking out loud)
 
Originally posted by nighthawk
This could happen:

Good:
800mhz G4 (100mhz bus)
15" Flatpanel
CD-R/DVD-ROM
GeForce4 MX 32mb
Bluetooth
Airport Extreme
No Firewire 800

Better:
933mhz G4 (133mhz bus)
15" Flatpanel
CD-R/DVD-ROM
GeForce4 MX DDR 32mb
Bluetooth
Airport Extreme
Firewire 800

Best:
1.13ghz G4 (133mhz bus)
17" Flatpanel
Superdrive
GeForce4 MX DDR 32mb
Bluetooth
Airport Extreme
Firewire 800

If I had to bet money on the new iMacs/eMacs I would still bet on only 2 processor speeds being used just as now. Right now a 700 and 800Mhz machine are being offered. I think the updated will be an 867Mhz for lower end machines and 1Ghz for higher end. Just take a look at what Apple is using right now. They have not used a 933 for a long time and I have never seen a 1.13Ghz processor in my life...last...why have all these different speeds...they should use what they have in mass quanity right now that will give a good bump in performance...so I still bet on an 867 and a 1Ghz!
 
I'm very much doubting a speed bump past the 1GHz mark, largely because the PowerMacs begin at 1GHz. However, there are many other reasons that the iMac will likely not exceed 1GHz:

(1) The G4 may or may not be clocking higher than the 1.4GHz level seen in the PowerMacs right now. If, for example, the G4 only sees the light of 1.4GHz, the iMac will need to stretch out its updates. The iMac would then have to go 1GHz now, 1.2GHz or so six months from now, and 1.4GHz one year from now. This would then put the rumored IBM 970 into the iMac at roughly MWNY 2004.

(2) Apple likely has boatloads of "slow" iMacs, and has continued to delay any release of a new iMac until those numbers decrease a bit more. Apple does not suddenly want to lower the value of its iMac line solely to offer faster machines.

(3) Don't forget, the recession is still on. Heck, the DJIA is below 8,000 again (ok, it's on a little spike right now at 8,046, but still). Granted, this is no sophisticated meter for the health of the U.S. economy, but it certainly spells the mood of the American people. America is spending less, saving more, and businesses are feeling that pinch. Apple is likely the most conservative of companies at a time like this.
 
Originally posted by rice_web
Apple is likely the most conservative of companies at a time like this.

you know, i completely agreed until that line. did you hear about MWSF just a few weeks? did you see what they're selling their LCD panels for now? i think you'll have to retract your statement, or qualify what you mean by "conservative."
 
Originally posted by rice_web

(2) Apple likely has boatloads of "slow" iMacs, and has continued to delay any release of a new iMac until those numbers decrease a bit more. Apple does not suddenly want to lower the value of its iMac line solely to offer faster machines.

Yeah, but it is easily for Apple to gut those machines and through in the new hardware.
 
Well since you asked...

I could tell you what 'conservative' means to me but I do not think those words are permitted in this forum.
 
Re: Well since you asked...

Originally posted by Sol
I could tell you what 'conservative' means to me but I do not think those words are permitted in this forum.

lol, i didn't mean "what do you think of bushy boy?" or the republican national party. i meant, in context. obviously apple is not a very politically conservative company--putting carter on its homepage when he won the nobel... i am thinking more, fiscally and such.
 
Re: Re: ...other hardware

Originally posted by trog


Check this out. I ordered a 20 gig iPod on the 12th of Jan. Expected shipping was 1-2 days. Then it was changed to 5-7 days. The next day the 5 gig iPod was "unavailable".

NOW... I get this message,


Dear Valued Apple Customer,

We appreciate your recent Apple Store Order W4XXXXXX

Due to an unexpected supply delay, we are unable to ship the following
item(s) by the date that you were originally quoted:

M8738LL/A, IPOD FOR MAC 20GB-USA
will now ship on or before 02/03/2003

Please note that product availability can change rapidly, and it is
possible that your order may ship much sooner than we anticipate. You
may even receive a shipment confirmation between the time we send this
email and the time that you read it.

If you prefer, you may change or cancel your order anytime before it
is shipped, and receive a prompt refund, by calling us at
800-676-2775 ext-56500 Mon-Fri 7am-9pm, Sat-Sun 9am-6pm (Central).

If we do not hear from you, we will continue processing your order.
You will receive an email notification once your order has been
shipped.


Sounds like new Pods are coming. Should I cancel?? Or just wait and see what happens?

This is probably the wrong place to say this in this forum but dont bother with the imacs get the newest G4 have you seen the flops and Mtops of the thing???? its madness. It puts the latest PC 3.06Ghz way out of the League.

Check out this website: http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/09.html

or if u cant be bothered then ill give u the gist of it all......
G4 dual 1.42 Ghz = 38,340 Mtops.
Pentium 4 3.06Ghz = 8,160 Mtops.
(Mtops = Millions of theoretical operations per second).
Thats the gist of it but it says a lot more that u ought to know on that website. Quite cool i thought, most i knew already but its a good way of replying to PC users. Send them that website address......... read it and weep....hehe ;)
 
Re: Re: Re: ...other hardware

Originally posted by Crunz


This is probably the wrong place to say this in this forum but dont bother with the imacs get the newest G4 have you seen the flops and Mtops of the thing???? its madness. It puts the latest PC 3.06Ghz way out of the League.

Check out this website: http://forgetcomputers.com/~jdroz/09.html

or if u cant be bothered then ill give u the gist of it all......
G4 dual 1.42 Ghz = 38,340 Mtops.
Pentium 4 3.06Ghz = 8,160 Mtops.
(Mtops = Millions of theoretical operations per second).
Thats the gist of it but it says a lot more that u ought to know on that website. Quite cool i thought, most i knew already but its a good way of replying to PC users. Send them that website address......... read it and weep....hehe ;)

insane
 
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