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New iMacs and 10.2.4 Coming...

Uh-oh...before this thread gets out of hand....

Do you think that Apple will release new powermacs at the same time as iMacs? If Apple really boosts the pMacs then maybe would could see a decent iMac speed boost (above 933mhz).

I'm just wondering also when we might see a new iBook this bein' the year of the laptop and all.

Originally posted by freemidnight
I hope someone will answer to my post:

how did you get 10,2,4?:eek: :confused:
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I think that some people are reporting that they have gotten their 12" AlBook. It should have 10.2.4 however the update is not yet out for the rest of us. Hopefully soon!
 
for ydzef Thought this would be the case with my 733 wanted a dual 800 or 1 gig upgrade but did not think i would get much out of it ( most stuff i use does not use SMP ) so bumped it up to 800 and will make do until the next fantastic thing to come out of apple. So tired of motorola stagnation:mad:
 
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Assuming that Feb. 3 is the big day of the iMac release, what exactly is supposed to happen on this day? Is that the first day that we can actually order the iMac?

And here's something that I've been wondering about: During non-Apple event times, what time of the day does Apple make big announcements?
 
Re: You GHz fools

Originally posted by Sol
Those of you saying that iMacs and PowerMacs are too slow will not be satisfied until you use an Intel or AMD processor. The Mac platform has always used a different architecture to Windows boxes and this makes GHz comparisons between different processors nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Macs use PPC processors that are more efficient than x86 processors. This is why an x86 processor needs to have the highest GHz rating regardless of heat issues (which explains why only Apple could manufacture fanless iMacs & Cubes). If GHz is all that matters to you go spend (waste?) your money on a PeeCee. The fact remains that only Apple sells computers like the iMac, iBook, Powerbook and the PowerMac.
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I own a 1.2Ghz Athlon from way back in the day. My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow. Faster per Mhz, but dual processors dont add up to their respective clock in a single processor and better motherboards w/ faster buses. His motherboard has serial ata, firewire, really nice sound (spdif and all the other nice digital outs), ata 133 raid, gig ethernet, 533mhz bus, doesn't sound like a jet engine, etc etc. When Apple puts all this into a computer for about a grand I will be impressed. Till then it's kinda depressing to be a Mac user.
 
According to reports on other sites the 12" PowerBook only has 10.2.3. It's the 17" that needs 10.2.4 and that's not shipping yet. So the only way to have 10.2.4 legally is to be an Apple developer.
 
Originally posted by iTry
Anyone got any ideas what sort of bag I could put my (not quite bought yet!) iMac in while transporting it. I'm likely to have to take it from my university housing back to my parents' every so often and I'd like to have something to protect it and avoid some little scrote seeing what it is and mugging me!

Carry handles would be good, and something that would flat pack when i don't need it. Any ideas anyone???

I know it's off topic, but let's just say it's closer then some posts...

:rolleyes:
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how about the original box? they're pretty cool boxes that apple makes. you'd have to be darn careful with an imac, as that neck has to be very very fragile to just plop in a bag that's not designed for it.
 
Originally posted by mangoman
The time issue...good question... anyone? Beuller?
Beuller?
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I think that they might have it on a programmed timer to automatically change it on a certain day, because I remember when twice I was lucky enough to have been staying up especially late, when I clicked to the Apple site at about 1:30 in the morning, and up popped some faster iBooks and PowerBooks, so I think that maybe it's just set to change at 12:00am:D
 
Re: You GHz fools

Originally posted by york2600



I own a 1.2Ghz Athlon from way back in the day. My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow. Faster per Mhz, but dual processors dont add up to their respective clock in a single processor and better motherboards w/ faster buses. His motherboard has serial ata, firewire, really nice sound (spdif and all the other nice digital outs), ata 133 raid, gig ethernet, 533mhz bus, doesn't sound like a jet engine, etc etc. When Apple puts all this into a computer for about a grand I will be impressed. Till then it's kinda depressing to be a Mac user.
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I totally agree (well for desktops at least) - PC hardware prices drop by the day, but Macs stay pretty much the same for over a year? I don't get it - it's not like Apple's hard drives, graphics cards, and motherboards come from Shangri-La laced with platinum. Why do the prices barely go down? X, iLife, all of Apple's software is all excellent, but when Jaguar sells for $130 and iLife for $50, these can't be the reasons that desktop Macs are not dropping significantly in price.

I really hope things change once the IBM chips come in.
 
Re: Re: You GHz fools

Originally posted by york2600

My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow.
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I have a system I built myself with an Intel 2.53Ghz Pentium 4 with 512MB of PC2700 memory and an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. I had a PowerMac G4 dual 1Ghz with 1GB of PC2700 memory and an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro.

There wasn't anything the PowerMac G4 could do faster than the Pentium 4. Even in Photoshop (the most CPU demanding application that I use) the G4 was smoked by the P4. It wasn't even close.

I don't find OS X any easier to use than XP other than AppleScript being a great scripting language. So I sold the G4 for almost what I paid for it and kept only the P4 system. I like the Lian-Li brushed aluminum case much better too. It is much quieter and I never was a big fan of the PowerMac G4 case. I think it looks goofy.

I would like to get another Mac but I need expansion slots and the current crop of PowerMac G4s are overpriced and underpowered.
 
I know I'm digging up an old post, but I think I have a point worth making.
Originally posted by Titanium.X

That doesn't make any sense. If the new iMacs come preloaded with the four applications making up iLife what other reason would they have to delay it other than software issues?
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Oh, but it makes so much sense!
While yes, Apple could just release iLife this weekend, and iMacs over a week later, but they want the least amount of time possible between the two.
Why?
I'm guessing that the iMac release was planned for the last week of January, but got pushed back for some reason, so Apple just pushed iLife back as well.
Apple doesn't want someone to purchase iLife for $50, and then have that new software make them decide to hold off on a new computer announced a few days later (which they would wind up paying over $1000 for).
Of course, announcing the iMacs on the same day as iLife would be crazy... for some reason...;)
 
Re: Re: You GHz fools

Originally posted by york2600



I own a 1.2Ghz Athlon from way back in the day. My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow. Faster per Mhz, but dual processors dont add up to their respective clock in a single processor and better motherboards w/ faster buses. His motherboard has serial ata, firewire, really nice sound (spdif and all the other nice digital outs), ata 133 raid, gig ethernet, 533mhz bus, doesn't sound like a jet engine, etc etc. When Apple puts all this into a computer for about a grand I will be impressed. Till then it's kinda depressing to be a Mac user.
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Must agree their software rocks but hardware is allways behind lets hope they will correct some of this in 2003 forget cpu's we all know about that with motorolas lil bumps----- look at bus speed --- 100mhz come on-------no ddr ram come on------Thank god for iapps,OSX, and cool looking machines!
 
It's the year of the laptop for a reason...
Apple's desktop offerings are sub-par in the speed region, but their laptops are top-notch.
If you really need a desktop, though, start saving your hard earned dollars. In the next few months IBM starts producing the PowerPC 970.
By the end of the year you'll be able to buy a Powermac with a true 64-bit processor and enough power to make the Dell Interns cry.
Sure, I'm a little optimistic, but the 970 truly is promising. It has something so similar to AltiVec Apple can continue to just call it the Velocity Engine... and clock speeds Motorola will never reach... and amazing gigaflops (don't you just love saying "Gigaflops?")... and a design that really uses DDR RAM... and it strains pasta!
Apple innovates, and there's some big innovation on its way...
 
Re: Re: Broadband here too

Originally posted by JBracy


Let's keep politics out of this shall we.

Sherlock and iPhoto do "work" the same, they just don't have localised content, or agreements with third parties outside the US to provide services. Probably because the services outside the US are greedy. In the UK the equivalent to the Yellow Pages web site charges a per use fee. Obviously Apple couldn't link into that, without incurring huge charges.
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Registered just to say this: That was just about the most stupid statement I've ever heard. You really should look at the world outside the US, if you were ever to debate about anything not regarding that or something in that country.
 
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
It's the year of the laptop for a reason...
Apple's desktop offerings are sub-par in the speed region, but their laptops are top-notch.
If you really need a desktop, though, start saving your hard earned dollars. In the next few months IBM starts producing the PowerPC 970.
By the end of the year you'll be able to buy a Powermac with a true 64-bit processor and enough power to make the Dell Interns cry.
Sure, I'm a little optimistic, but the 970 truly is promising. It has something so similar to AltiVec Apple can continue to just call it the Velocity Engine... and clock speeds Motorola will never reach... and amazing gigaflops (don't you just love saying "Gigaflops?")... and a design that really uses DDR RAM... and it strains pasta!
Apple innovates, and there's some big innovation on its way...
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First Pyro let me say I'm a big fan of Macunderground! (Hope you're feeling better!) Second I might be willing to wait (though there could be outside circumstances that might make it imparative to upgrade my desktop ASAP) I'm wondering...IF all goes well and taking what we know now...when at the earliest might we see 970 towers?

Thoughts?

EDIT: And just for fun and keeping this on topic...knowing Apples trickledown effect (pMacs get upgrade with new processors first then pBooks, then iMacs) when might we see 970 iMacs?
 
Originally posted by Centris 650

First Pyro let me say I'm a big fan of Macunderground! (Hope you're feeling better!) Second I might be willing to wait (though there could be outside circumstances that might make it imparative to upgrade my desktop ASAP) I'm wondering...IF all goes well and taking what we know now...when at the earliest might we see 970 towers?

Thoughts?
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That's tough to answer, I'm thinking something like this:
IBM says the 970 should be a real reality during the second half of the year. And Apple won't announce a Powermac 970 until they're almost ready to go.

So really, the release of a new 970 Tower really depends on when in the six month long second half of the year IBM has the processor ready. But there are a couple things worth considering.

1. It won't be released in December...
2. Assuming IBM has the processor ready mid-June (I wish!) or later, it won't be in July (last time I checked, Apple wasn't in MWNY) or August.

That leaves September, October, and November. November and October seem to be big months for Apple releases (iPod, last year's iBooks and TiBooks), so I'd bet on one of those.

The last thing to consider here is Apple's desire to get this thing on the market. All the talk about slow PMs here means that Apple will want this next generation machine on the market as soon as it's ready. Personally, I'm looking into the 12" Powerbook.

BTW... yes, I'm feeling better :D

EDIT: In my opinion, 970 iMacs depend on affordable the processor is to Apple. However, MWSF04 would be a great time to release a great new consumer machine (like MWSF02!).
 
Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel


I'm not sure...I was at the Genius Bar at the Cambridgeside (MA) Store getting my TiBook fixed and just glanced at the price list they had. 'Data transer' was the closest thing to 'Internet use' so maybe it means something totally different.
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I would guess that "Data Transfer" is transferring data/settings from an old computer to a newly purchased Mac.
 
UK Sherloclk channels

Originally posted by jMc


You all probably know about this, but to anyone who's interested some UK Sherlock channels were released by a third party a couple of days ago... Only books and dvd/video at the moment, but they seem to work well - ordered some books from amazon.co.uk yesterday... Here they are opn VT-

http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=18052&db=mac

jx
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I'd missed that - cheers!

Jonathan
 
York 2600
I own a 1.2Ghz Athlon from way back in the day. My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow. Faster per Mhz, but dual processors dont add up to their respective clock in a single processor and better motherboards w/ faster buses. His motherboard has serial ata, firewire, really nice sound (spdif and all the other nice digital outs), ata 133 raid, gig ethernet, 533mhz bus, doesn't sound like a jet engine, etc etc. When Apple puts all this into a computer for about a grand I will be impressed. Till then it's kinda depressing to be a Mac user.
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I agree too!

I don't understand why Apple tries to bull peoples with their "Ilife" or If***!!!

Do they take us as granted?


...mmmmm!:mad:
 
Re: Re: You GHz fools

Originally posted by york2600



I own a 1.2Ghz Athlon from way back in the day. My friend has a 2.2Ghz P4 that he just bought for 600 bucks minus HD/CD-R. I have a mirror door dual 867Mhz G4 that I paid about 2 grand for. The PCs smoke it. It's sad. I love Macs, but these things are damn slow. Faster per Mhz, but dual processors dont add up to their respective clock in a single processor and better motherboards w/ faster buses. His motherboard has serial ata, firewire, really nice sound (spdif and all the other nice digital outs), ata 133 raid, gig ethernet, 533mhz bus, doesn't sound like a jet engine, etc etc. When Apple puts all this into a computer for about a grand I will be impressed. Till then it's kinda depressing to be a Mac user.
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Free association thought here:

Let's say for the sake of arguement this is literally true. Should Mac users buy one of these as an "accessory" to their Macs?

What software and hardware would it take to seamlessly hook the two together at highest possible transfer speed?

I use PC's for vertical market applications and single purpose jobs so the idea of a "free" server farm or pooch farm is appealing to me. Besides I can get unlimited used PC's dirt cheap.

Rocketman
 
How to save lots of money...!

Originally posted by Shadowfax


how about the original box? they're pretty cool boxes that apple makes. you'd have to be darn careful with an imac, as that neck has to be very very fragile to just plop in a bag that's not designed for it.
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Apparently it's tougher than it looks. A magazine article I read once went through the process of chucking one down some stairs. It survived!

That said, obviously I'm not going to just bung it in a holdall! I was thinking of making a hard plastic cover for the screen, and maybe some sort of rigid support for the neck, to keep it in place. I was hoping to find a bag that has hard walls, but which collapse when you store them.

I would use the box, but I have no room to keep it in my uni house so its gonna have to stay at my parents'.

I still ain't found anything that'll do the job, so I might have to make one myself. I'll maybe make it out of aluminium, so when people ask I can say 'I have a portable, alumiunum, widescreen mac'! I think I've found a market niche! I could make millions... ;) ;) ;)
 


Someone either knows someone else or got it leaked. BTW, anything new?
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The Apple OS updates are always leaked, even the builds inbetween updates. I've had 10.2.4 on my Carracho server for quite awhile. Shhh...
 
Originally posted by freemidnight
York 2600


I agree too!

I don't understand why Apple tries to bull peoples with their "Ilife" or If***!!!

Do they take us as granted?


...mmmmm!:mad:
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You're an idiot.. damn. Apple doesn't make the chips. Moto does. They make iLife because its GREAT for some people and it draws attention away from the speed problem.

Are you that dense? God, you're all monkies.
 
Re: Re: Re: Broadband here too

Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch

Registered just to say this: That was just about the most stupid statement I've ever heard. You really should look at the world outside the US, if you were ever to debate about anything not regarding that or something in that country.
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I live in NY, and I must agree with you. That poster was a damn idiot.

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