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it should not matter. After all the cpu is multiplier unlocked. So Intel could sell the same cpu at 2.8ghz if passes validation. x7800 released only 3 weeks back and so I dont see intel releasing x7900 this early.
3ghz clovertown was different thing as clovertown was in the market for over 5 months when apple added it to mac pro.
Yep. Sorry, just started looking beyond the iMac page and I caught this. Never mind.
This is the point I was trying to make. Most people don't need the latest and greatest GPU for a bit of light gaming, hence there is no need for Apple to compromise the design to include one.
I'm typing this on my new 20" iMac and I love it. Picked it up at the local Apple Store. They are not yet on display. Evidently they were not allowed to sell them until the press conference was over. I got the education discount ($100 off $1499 model, $50 off $169 Applecare, and iPod rebate). I really like the black border. I was unsure about it at first but it really makes the screen stand out, almost float, and completely hides the camera. As for the glossy screen, looks very bright and vibrant to me. Looks great unless I turn it so that the window is directly in front of it and then it's only slightly more reflective than my previous monitor. I like the keyboard as well. It has a very soft feel and it very comfortable to type on. The best $1400 I ever spent on a computer.
I would have liked to get 2gb RAM. I understand that 1gb is enough for most consumers but it can't be that expensive. Don't mind too much, Apple's RAM upgrade prices are so high, I was planning on upgrading it myself anyway.
Not sure how I feel about the video card. I would have liked to see something with a little more 3D power, 8600 like the MBP, at least. I think the 2600 is fine for me now but I kept my last Mac for 4 years and was hoping this one would last that long as well. On the other hand, I really like that they choose a card with hardware decoders for video. This Mac will double as our TV in the bedroom and we watch a lot of TV and videos on it. Dedicated H264/MPEG/Divx decoder will come in real handy.
Just my 2 cents. I encourage everyone to take a look at it in person if you can, I found it to be much more impressive in person than I did watching the live coverage this afternoon.
I would have liked to get 2gb RAM. I understand that 1gb is enough for most consumers but it can't be that expensive. Don't mind too much, Apple's RAM upgrade prices are so high, I was planning on upgrading it myself anyway.
Not sure how I feel about the video card. I would have liked to see something with a little more 3D power, 8600 like the MBP, at least. I think the 2600 is fine for me now but I kept my last Mac for 4 years and was hoping this one would last that long as well. On the other hand, I really like that they choose a card with hardware decoders for video. This Mac will double as our TV in the bedroom and we watch a lot of TV and videos on it. Dedicated H264/MPEG/Divx decoder will come in real handy.
Just my 2 cents. I encourage everyone to take a look at it in person if you can, I found it to be much more impressive in person than I did watching the live coverage this afternoon.
I think this is the reason why people think it looks like a PC. Granted, the HP looks really ugly in person though.
images and videos look much better with a black border around it. There is a reason why so many laptops, monitors and HDTV's these days have a black border around the screen
i'm hoping that the next MBP redesign will incorporate glossy black border with aluminum trim. That would look so hot
Why do i have this feeling that apple will release a new imac (new design) at macworld and **** us all?
I always hate these kind of comments. If you bought an iMac yesterday you would stillvhave one of the best computers out there. There is always something better six to nine months away!
The HD2600XT even as a build to order option would have been much better. The 2400XT and 2600 Pro are low end parts when you compare then the the midrange from the last generation.
I want to see them placed against the 7600GT for the previous iMac 24".
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I use an external drive exclusively (in essence) for one of my macs. I actually access it over afp (to my primary computer) and keep the password in my keychain, so if I'm not logged in already it does that by itself. The only problems I get is when I access the database from two terminals at once.
BUT there's a catch to this: instead of telling itunes where to find the database, I tell it to look in the default location- where I've placed an alias to the directory on my other machine. I do this so that if my other machine is down it gives me a warning that the library can neither be accessed nor created in the default location (it won't overwrite the alias) rather than proceeding to create a new library in the default location.
In your case I'd first consolodate your itunes library on your current machine. Then, I'd setup my new imac, set a new library location (advanced tab of itunes preferences) somewhere on the External HD (if the HD is the same one from your MP, use a different folder than the one you were using). After that, I'd import the MP library to get the file permissions in my library right, and finally set my library location to the music folder on my boot disk. I'd make an alias to the NEW library (the one named "iTunes", that contains both the XML files and mp3's) on the Ext. drive, launch itunes, rip a CD, check to see that it's still only writing to the Ext. drive ------ and only then would I delete the original library.
I use an external drive exclusively (in essence) for one of my macs. I actually access it over afp (to my primary computer) and keep the password in my keychain, so if I'm not logged in already it does that by itself. The only problems I get is when I access the database from two terminals at once.
BUT there's a catch to this: instead of telling itunes where to find the database, I tell it to look in the default location- where I've placed an alias to the directory on my other machine. I do this so that if my other machine is down it gives me a warning that the library can neither be accessed nor created in the default location (it won't overwrite the alias) rather than proceeding to create a new library in the default location.
In your case I'd first consolodate your itunes library on your current machine. Then, I'd setup my new imac, set a new library location (advanced tab of itunes preferences) somewhere on the External HD (if the HD is the same one from your MP, use a different folder than the one you were using). After that, I'd import the MP library to get the file permissions in my library right, and finally set my library location to the music folder on my boot disk. I'd make an alias to the NEW library (the one named "iTunes", that contains both the XML files and mp3's) on the Ext. drive, launch itunes, rip a CD, check to see that it's still only writing to the Ext. drive ------ and only then would I delete the original library.
Focus Groups are usually in rooms with no exterior windows. I have one and can see reflections from outside on my glossy screened Macbook (UUGGHHH) but not on my Matte screened iMac (Hoooray).
Ad snafu?
Did anyone notice that at the end of the new iMac ad the mouse is on the left? I usually have mine on the right.
Did anyone notice that at the end of the new iMac ad the mouse is on the left?
I usually have mine on the right. the easiest way is to set iTunes music location, select "keep itunes music folder organized" and then consolidate library. all your music will be consolidated into the desired folder and you can delete your original music folder afterwards. MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR LIBRARY DATA FILES!!
whenever you don't have your external plugged in, if you start your iTunes and import music, the music will be imported to your internal hard drive (default music location). Once you plug in your external though, exit and restart itunes and the music location will point back at the external hard drive and all your music will be accessible. Works quite well IMO
I don't get it, when the iMac was white and anodized Al, the keyboard was clear plastic and white, including the mouse. Now the iMac is Black glass and anodized Al and the keyboard is anodized Al and white!!!
Why not have the keyboard anodized Al and black to match the new iMac and MacPro setup, and include a black mouse while Apple is at it.
Why even bother to make the iMac Black glass and anodized Al, why not have it all black with the option for a matte and glossy screen. I understand that some people like the glossy screen benefits, however there are other like myself who cannot stand it for day to day use.
I had my hopes up for this update and plans on purchasing it, however due to a glossy screen I am leaning towards either a 17" mbp or 30" mp.
Why not have the keyboard anodized Al and black to match the new iMac and MacPro setup, and include a black mouse while Apple is at it.
Why even bother to make the iMac Black glass and anodized Al, why not have it all black with the option for a matte and glossy screen. I understand that some people like the glossy screen benefits, however there are other like myself who cannot stand it for day to day use.
I had my hopes up for this update and plans on purchasing it, however due to a glossy screen I am leaning towards either a 17" mbp or 30" mp.
Having bought my iMac 3 weeks ago and then hearing the new one was due out I was on a bit of a downer. As good as I'm sure the new one is, I don't feel like I'm missing out, new one just doesn't look that great but if I was in the market I'd still get it, just not as clean looking as the outgoing model.
I really was surprised to see that you still can't plug in a 30" ACD.
I'm going to wait until Apple released the quad core version which I bet will be just after Leopard before deciding, maybe the MacPro will be my next machine.
I really was surprised to see that you still can't plug in a 30" ACD.
I'm going to wait until Apple released the quad core version which I bet will be just after Leopard before deciding, maybe the MacPro will be my next machine.
OK, using the 2600XT, rather than the Pro (pro not listed, but gives you an idea)
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=858&model2=716&chart=279
They are both as good, (or as bad) as each other.
If memory serves, the 7600GT was only available on the 24 as a BTO, added at a mid life revision to the lineup. The current 2600 is baselined for all but the most basic iMac, suggesting there may be a BTO upgrade available at a later date, prehaps along with the first batch of PEAR ports.
Personally, I think the iMac release is pathetic. Sure I'll like it in time because of the Apple marketing machine but my first thought was, "All they did was add a black border to it!" which is pretty much what has been done. I was really expecting them to have killed the chin and made it look more like a monitor. Then people would really ask, "Where's the computer!?"
The Keyboards, on the other hand, have a great design but I'll have to use it before I pass judgement on how it feels (which I suspect will be lacking if it's like the MacBook keyboard).
I do like the iLife and iWork updates. Anyone know if there is a way to download a trial?
The Keyboards, on the other hand, have a great design but I'll have to use it before I pass judgement on how it feels (which I suspect will be lacking if it's like the MacBook keyboard).
I do like the iLife and iWork updates. Anyone know if there is a way to download a trial?
I know the benchmarks. The Pro versions of the 2400/2600 are a waste of money and SKUs.
I'm not sure if im happy or disapointed.
+ New Look is nice, though i did like the white.
+ New specs! Core 2 Extreme! Wow some real higher end power there.
+ New Graphics Cards! HURAH! Wait....2600? NO WHY GOD! WHY.
The iMac is perfect for my needs now, but the Graphics Card is still the achilles heel. The fact its ATI does not bother me, i mean some people were hoping NVIDA. Both top end products from those companies are fine so i dont care which is included. But the fact that top end 24" has a 2.8Ghz C2, 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD....ect ect... and then they include a mid-range graphics card just astonishs me. Personally -.04Ghz and adding a 2800 or 2900 would have made more of a difference to my purchase decision.
Right now im torn. I just dont know if that 2600 is going to be the thorn in the side of my purchase should i decide to go for one, because this is replacing my PC and Graphics Power is really important. But so is saving space which is why i was interested in the iMac (not to mention the Mac Pro is more expensive and more than what i need).
+ New Look is nice, though i did like the white.
+ New specs! Core 2 Extreme! Wow some real higher end power there.
+ New Graphics Cards! HURAH! Wait....2600? NO WHY GOD! WHY.
The iMac is perfect for my needs now, but the Graphics Card is still the achilles heel. The fact its ATI does not bother me, i mean some people were hoping NVIDA. Both top end products from those companies are fine so i dont care which is included. But the fact that top end 24" has a 2.8Ghz C2, 2GB RAM, 500GB HDD....ect ect... and then they include a mid-range graphics card just astonishs me. Personally -.04Ghz and adding a 2800 or 2900 would have made more of a difference to my purchase decision.
Right now im torn. I just dont know if that 2600 is going to be the thorn in the side of my purchase should i decide to go for one, because this is replacing my PC and Graphics Power is really important. But so is saving space which is why i was interested in the iMac (not to mention the Mac Pro is more expensive and more than what i need).
Hello,
I think a lot of people are slightly disappointed being as Steve was the one who stood up some time ago and mentioned about new games being available in partnership with EA, and that Apple was expanding it's games platform and that by utilizing a lesser known gaming graphics card in the new iMac, people quite rightly are somewhat confused as to whether or not the new iMac will cut it as a gaming system-time will tell I guess.
I myself find it amusing/disappointing that there is no difference to the top 3 iMac's in terms of graphics cards-something which used to be the case with the older 24" model which had 2 options to choose from( the standard 7300 or the higher speced Geforce 7600GT for those that needed the extra graphics performance whether it be using photo/graphic intensive applications or gaming. I like the processor choice, don't get me wrong on that one(especially on the top spec iMac) but I really do feel they have ended up short with the top spec iMac using the same graphics card inside-not even a difference in graphics card internal memory!!! I'd gladly opt out of having the bigger hard drive, more RAM over the choice on what graphics card I wanted any day!!!
I really think Apple should look into this ASAP, as it's not just about gaming ability, but also about choice-and that's something I'm sure we'd all like to see in the iMac and not just the Mac Pro ;-)
Wow you have a money tree? That is awsome.
Nah see what you mean, i did'nt realise it was included in 2 months time. Fair enough, i just really need a new Mac right now so time is of the essence!
Good luck holding out til leopard does come out