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New iMacs Released

jeffereyj said:
the "added color richness" is exactly what someone who works in print, design, animation, and video would NOT want.

anything "added" to color is no longer color-accurate.
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As I said, if you have issues with certain calibration techniques not being possible on the new iMac, don't buy it.
 
jeffereyj said:
the "added color richness" is exactly what someone who works in print, design, animation, and video would NOT want.

anything "added" to color is no longer color-accurate.
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To be fair, given the monitors specifications, it clearly isn't intended for the professional market.
 
matticus008 said:
Key pitch is exactly AT standard. Measure it. Flat tops are a personal preference, but how do they do anything except guide the finger to the center of the chosen key? This is necessary on scissor-keys, but not on the new keyboard--key strikes do not need to be centered, thus there is no need for the concave suface and beveled edge.

Then use less force. It takes more than 30 seconds to get used to, but it's hardly the end of the world. It's just different. Someone coming the other way would have the exact opposite complaint--it's too hard to push keys down on a standard keyboard. Is your keyboard too laborious?
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Rather than telling him to change the way he uses a keyboard, I would simply recommend that he unplugs the Apple keyboard and connects a keyboard which suits his tastes - whether it's an older style Apple keyboard or just a generic one. Problem solved.
 
Padraig said:
To be fair, given the monitors specifications, it clearly isn't intended for the professional market.
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Yeah, but again to be fair, there are many amateur photographers out there who do photo editing on their home computers... :rolleyes:
 
matticus008 said:
Funny that you prove my point by not including a single head-on image and by judging performance, once again, based on some still photos of a walk around.
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funny that you choose to ignore the single "head-on" image i posted from engadget:
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Same memory

Does anyone know if these take the same memory as the previous Imacs?

PC2-5300 (667mhz) 200pin ram?
 
matticus008 said:
This is a meme that has to stop. The much-maligned "glossy" screens don't have any deficiencies
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If you believed that, you wouldn't be so worried about stopping the "meme".

If what you said was true, and reflective screens were irrelevant to the people sitting in front of them, you'd dismiss these posts without thinking twice. Why the energetic defense, man?

I say it again: matte displays were invented for a reason.

This just pushes people who use their macs all day up past the $3000 bracket if they want a decent-size screen. "It's an all-in-one world", so long as you don't use the computer for too long (or in an office)
 
Personally I like the new iMac design. Went to the local Apple shop tonight for a little fiddle with one before we purchase. When sat next to the old version I think the new one looks a lot nicer. (I'm sure plenty of people will disagree, but it is my opinion)

Just to decide which one to get now, think we're gonna go for the whole gubbins of one, 24" 2.8Ghz dual thingy-mabob and all that.

The keyboard felt nice, but like as previously mentioned, the USB ports are squashed under the keyboard and fat dongles, pendrives etc will prob struggle to fit in them.

I personally like the black around the screen, i think it makes the chin look sneakily thinner!

When we get the new iMac i'll update with how i find it. See how the wife likes it, doing her design work on it. It's the first mac we've had so pretty excited :D

Oh yeah, and the keyboard is american style, with the @ sign being above number 2. Is this normal for apple, or just cos it's a display model, and american keyboard??

Hope the UK version has the @ sign in the usual place for us UK'ers

EDIT AGAIN: Just checked the apple/uk website and their pics show the @ sign above the number 2 also, grrrrr!!! Hope this isn't always the case, it's a pain if it is.
 
resmae said:
Thats not head on...
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Exactly. That's totally off-axis. 20 degrees at least.

Wharrgarbl said:
If what you said was true, and reflective screens were irrelevant to the people sitting in front of them, you'd dismiss these posts without thinking twice. Why the energetic defense, man?
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So if someone says something that is false, and you energetically proclaim what you believe, you're proving yourself wrong because you decided to prove that person was wrong? If a person is correct, they will simply "dismiss" the claim "without thinking twice"? Wow. :rolleyes: Seems to me that you're just as energetically defending your POV as well, sir.
 
Wharrgarbl said:
If you believed that, you wouldn't be so worried about stopping the "meme".
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On the contrary, letting these people give misguided information to potential customers is what furthers this asinine myth. Someone has to say something to stop it, because impressionable people start believing it because they hear it so often.
I say it again: matte displays were invented for a reason.
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Yeah. Economics. Big glass panels made LCDs too expensive, so they went uncoated and unprotected. You're either a child or have a short memory. The biggest complaint against early LCDs, in fact, was that they diffused light too much and washed out completely. Then the TFT came out, which improved performance thanks to active backlighting.
This just pushes people who use their macs all day up past the $3000 bracket if they want a decent-size screen. "It's an all-in-one world", so long as you don't use the computer for too long (or in an office)
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Now I'm convinced you're trolling. $3000 for what? People use glossy displays all day, every day without a problem, in brightly lit rooms and yes, even design studios. My Samsung HDTV, my MacBook Pro, and my wife's HP notebook all have "glossy" displays and all of them can be used in bright, sunlit rooms, something not possible with the PowerBook, Toshiba HDTV, or Dell notebooks that preceded them. There is simply no way to create a reflection in front of a light source if the display is positioned to face you, unless you use a light source so bright that it would make a matte panel unreadable as well.

It simply isn't physically possible without turning off the display.
PCMacUser said:
Rather than telling him to change the way he uses a keyboard, I would simply recommend that he unplugs the Apple keyboard and connects a keyboard which suits his tastes - whether it's an older style Apple keyboard or just a generic one. Problem solved.
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He's free to make that decision. The problem is that he categorically declared the keyboard inferior (and in fact basically called it the worst keyboard ever made), when in fact, many people prefer it, littering his post along with way with factually inaccurate information. It's different, that's all there is to it. As you can see, my main rub with this thread is that people can't accept that things that are different are not automatically worse because they aren't YOUR preference. People fear change and feel the need to malign products for being different. People look to these forums for buying information, and this juvenile need to deride can't go unopposed.
 
I agree - no HDMI in or similar??

FunkyELF said:
Can I hook up a laptop to it yet and use it as a monitor? If not...WHY THE HELL NOT? If so, ignore what follows.

If I'm buying a 24" iMac I better be able to dock something else there and use the screen.

This is almost as bad as DRM. You can only use this display with only one particular computer (the one inside it).

I do realize that laptops have displays too that you can't hook anything else up to but nobody would want to either. This is a 24" display....come on!!!
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I agree completely! My 17" anglepoise iMac G4 is left in the dust by my 12" MacBook, but the display is still immaculate. If I could plug the latter into the former (or at least easily use the iMac as a TV without jumping through hoops) I'd be happy. I may not buy a new 24" iMac now, as I had been planning, but just use an external monitor/drive/keyboard with my MacBook.
 
To be fair, given the monitors specifications, it clearly isn't intended for the professional market.
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Eh? Many studios use iMacs, especially since you could two for the price of a Mac pro and cinema display.
 
AlexisV said:
Eh? Many studios use iMacs, especially since you could two for the price of a Mac pro and cinema display.
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Exactly. Just because the iMac displays may not be minutely calibrated to very very fine specs doesn't mean they can't be used in pro applications. All but the most demanding color-calibrated tasks will be performable by the iMac.
 
Does anyone know wether the hard drive, like the RAM, is user replaceable without voiding the warrenty? Also, does anyone know what brand the stock and BTO drives are? Any chance they're Seagate Barracudas with 16MB cache?
 
Hello everyone....this is my first time posting. I'm a fed up windows vista user and have been following the release of the "new" imac for quite some time now. I placed an order yesterday for a 24" imac but cancelled today because I hate glossy screens and hate the new design....I think the "old" design is much much better.

Anyways, I'm planning on getting the white 24" imac but is it missing some features that the new imac has? Also does the old white imac only feature 802.11g instead of the new 802.11n format? What do you guys recommend I do. If I get the old imac I plan on upgrading to "08 ilife software.
 
gimmin74 said:
Hello everyone....this is my first time posting. I'm a fed up windows vista user and have been following the release of the "new" imac for quite some time now. I placed an order yesterday for a 24" imac but cancelled today because I hate glossy screens and hate the new design....I think the "old" design is much much better.

Anyways, I'm planning on getting the white 24" imac but is it missing some features that the new imac has? Also does the old white imac only feature 802.11g instead of the new 802.11n format? What do you guys recommend I do. If I get the old imac I plan on upgrading to "08 ilife software.
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The old iMac had 802.11n as well. You might get a free upgrade to iLife '08 too.

Look for the 7600GT model if possible.
 
Thanks for the reply. So I wont be missing much by buying the old imac except for the slightly faster processor? Looks like brand new ones are going for $1,650ish from some vendors......
 
Still Waiting!

Well i love the new iMac. I've been waiting since March. I ordered My 20" 2.4 with 2 gigs of ram,ATi 256 graphics card and 320gig Hard drive. I was so damn happy until they told me it would be September 12th before it's shipped!!! I just can't win. Well anyway at least it's a done deal just a little more waiting! I was going to get a iPod also but will wait to see if new one comes around with Leopard.:D
 
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