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Tallest Skill I am pretty confident about the new Nvidia iMac's in January but how confident are you out of 1-100%. You seem to know a lot about apple stuff and so do I. I am 100% confident on the new Mac Mini and wouldn't it be sick if they make the new iMac similiar to the new cinema display??? I think the iMac needs a change it has the same similar looks since the G5 was out. I know they change it too thinner and aluminum but if you think of it, its still the same iMac since the G5 was around. It would be nice if they can make it swivel etc. similar to the new Dell monitors. Just a new look would be nice overall the iMacs are great computers. I like the all in ones but I prefer a Mac Mini Pro which will never happen since the Mac Pro will always be on top. For the money its worth it but a lot of people don't have that money only graphic designers etc. So that is where the iMac comes to play. Overall, Macworld is going to be good too bad Steve not going to be doing it since its the last. I have to say a preview of Snow leopard, Mac Mini re-designed, iMac specs upgraded, and one more thing iphone nano maybe not not sure. It just not sure why someone would leak cases if there not going to be one. We will all soon find out.
 
nope never have, never will, just like back in high school I had a bunch of decent but average looking broads going after me, and they werent bad kids but I dissed them in favour of better things. If you do go that way congratulations you got a 6% of extra superfloous power and a fugly machine.

Btw, technically speaking I am sure you can appreciate the difference it makes putting the cpu in a big old ugly box and squizing it in 1.5 cm thin aluminum and plastic sheets.
Slightly amusing but we are talking about a lot more then 6% superfluous performance. I'm quite sure you'd by whatever Apple would sell regardless of the actual computer hardware in it though.
 
Slightly amusing but we are talking about a lot more then 6% superfluous performance. I'm quite sure you'd by whatever Apple would sell regardless of the actual computer hardware in it though.

no we are not, best case senarios at the moment, in purely synthetic test is that nehalem is 15% in performance gain, but that doesn't affect MOST desktop application PLUS the bottleneck here is the hd right now, so I d much rather have right now a macbook pro with one of the super fast new intel just released ssd's not letting dell fool me with their dispeakably ugly big box to think I am getting any sort of performance out of it, while I wait for the great ssd enabled imac in a few months time.

Yeah I would buy pretty much anything apple, and most often than not I would be on the right side and vindicated. Enjoy your new dell, enjoy vista, and windows 7, and 8 and 9 and maybe if they ever get to it 10 and 10.6 so they can finally compete with snow leopard....:D
 
Actually, watching BD movies on a 1280x800 screen is not stupid at all.

If you own the BD version of the movie, you should be able to watch it wherever you want. Do you think that one should buy the DVD version as well for the laptop?

Oh, no. The capability is not stupid, but you just won't get the full... potential, let's say, of the video. :D

how confident are you out of 1-100%. I am 100% confident on the new Mac Mini and wouldn't it be sick if they make the new iMac similiar to the new cinema display???

93% for iMac updates and 93% for Mac Mini updates. I believe that they will keep the chin on the iMac. There is absolutely nothing stopping them from removing the chin, but if the iMac looks exactly like the Cinema Display, what's to stop someone from reselling a Cinema Display as an iMac? The purchaser wouldn't know until they received it and found out that it was only a monitor. It's just a little dangerous now that the display shares the aesthetics... and the webcam... and the speakers... and the microphone...
 
Apple needs to bring back the matte screen. If you search for online polls, search for "macbook matte glossy polls", consistently between 40% to 55% want matte. Apple doesn't care about customers needs. All it cares about is sales figures and producing artistic design. But lots of customers need something that they have to work with for hours, and staring at a glossy screen is really aggravating for some (40-50%). So please don't reply to say you love the glossy screen. Fine, have your glossy screen. But those other half who want matte screens should get the option too. We're not saying change everything to matte, just give us the option.

Apple, if its money you're after, charge us more for it. Rip us off. Make if financially worthwhile for you to offer the matte screen, but do it.

Those polls are from MacRumors? I'd bet that the population is bit different in the "real world." Matted would be nice, but is unlikely. (Unfortunately.)

Well frankly I don't know what to think of the lack of SJ at MWSF. I don't believe it has anything to do with what comes out at MWSF, except for the possibility of a blockbuster device. Remember last years MWSF was kinda underwhelming as it was and Apple had weekly product releases for about two months after MWSF. They might not have anything of substance for the show but for me that is speculation right now. It really looks like dropping out of MWSF has been in the works for a couple of years now. I'm more worried that there haven't been any juicy leaks yet.

In any event I'd be the first to admit that i7 is a stretch. It would however be good to see Apple really stretching to innovate and bring bleeding edge products to the market. Further if they don't go i7 but do deliver a totally redesigned iMac, using the older mobile technology, that would mean that i7 would be a long time coming to a general Apple desktop machine. That would be enough to cause me to punt with respect to any new iMac.

That is where we agree. Nvidia could have something in the works to bring i7, it's just highly unlikely. The addition of P.A Semi would make an interesting addition to this. However I'm hoping that the P.A Semi gains would be a little more than an i7 processor on the iMac. Maybe a Tablet or unknown device.

BTW- thank you for the correction.


Actually, watching BD movies on a 1280x800 screen is not stupid at all.

If you own the BD version of the movie, you should be able to watch it wherever you want. Do you think that one should buy the DVD version as well for the laptop?

The point is that you're not getting the full HD effect. You paid for it, why not expect it?
 
For whom? Laptops costing half as much as an MBP have BR drives in them.

Please, it's BD - Blu-ray Disc. Look at the logo - it's a "B" and a "D".

bda_logo.gif



Keep it simple - CD, DVD, BD.

Please.
 
Oh, no. The capability is not stupid, but you just won't get the full... potential, let's say, of the video. :D

Agree - but I don't see the relevance.

The question is not "will the laptop do perfect 1080p".

The question is "can I put my disc in the laptop and watch my movie?".

We agree that the 50 GB data capability is definitely a plus.

I just don't think that it's "stupid" to expect to be able to play my BD movies on a laptop with less than 1080p native resolution.
 
Haha your right tallest skill I should of thought of that before I wrote. For example ebay you wont know until you get it haha. Then you tried to get your money back??? oops you can't haha. You turn it on.... 5 seconds later what the heck is it broke haha. Then your like hmm??? I know it a cinema display im screwed haha. Apple will never do something like that but yea either or it going to be a great end to Macworld with some awesome products. Thanks tallest skill.
 
Apple is losing me as a possible new iMac OR MBP customer simply for the fact that they are not offering matte screens anymore. Some people couldn't care less about matte or glossy, for for someone who does professional photography, or video editing, it makes a huge difference. I usually have an external monitor hooked up anyways, but restricting choice to glossy only is just ridiculous.
 
Please, it's BD - Blu-ray Disc. Look at the logo - it's a "B" and a "D".

bda_logo.gif



Keep it simple - CD, DVD, BD.

Please.
Thanks for clearing that up!

Anyways, Apple's new iMacs will have to be VERY appealing for me to ditch my 24" white iMac. I will most likely upgrade to something seriously more powerful when Snow Leopard comes out. I've always wanted a 30" ACD, though...so maybe we will see a 30" iMac (haha probably not!).

Let's hope MacWorld is very Mac focused and not iPhone focused.
 
Maybe new imacs be 23 and 27 inch

why did apple change the cinema display to 24 ;)

They changed because 23" S-IPS panels aren't being made anymore. They come in 20", 24", 26" and 30" and H-IPS (24"iMac and LED display) doesn't come in 20".
 
I don't think either the iMac nor the Min are horrible, they each have a purpose in life. What is horrible is not having a lineup that is broad enough to service a good cross section of the user community. Not to revive the xMac debate but that type of PC is a lot easier for Apple to update and keep current, especially if based on desktop processors.

Dave

Thanks, that was a great follow up...

Well they can and probably will, but I guess that was the point of your post.

Also the Dell isn't really a better system (in my eyes). Quad 2.33GHz vs. dual 2.8GHz means the iMac is going to be faster for most things the intended audience of these systems will be using them for. The iMac also has a faster GPU and a better display panel (H-IPS vs. S-PVA).

Your fist point goes to what Wizard was saying; 'the intended audience', whereby i would want more cores as i run more apps at the same time. However, most consumers would not. Apple does not give people like me a step between their home use desktop and their workstation.

Your second point has be lost.

Looking at Nivida's site, i see your point! I played the dumb consumer and just glanced over the model number! :(

A GeForce 9800 GT would be the logical step forward.

Thanks
 
I've just upgraded (for free :) ) from a g5 iMac to the new current model. For those who said that you can get a hot chip in the iMac.... yes you can but I don't think my fan ever turned off in my old mac. Give it any work to do and it was a very loud machine.

I think the iMac should come with 5 USBs, given the ones in the keyboard aren't powered. 3 is an annoying amount. I frequently find myself having to swap devices around.
 
I can see Apple releasing an iMac with Blu-Ray, I'm not sure it's that much of a "bag of hurt" anymore.

Especially with the current BULK pricing on slot-loading BRD players and R/W's.

In quantity you can buy a BRD ROM for under $30. Plus - when has Apple been concerned with price?

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Jobs made it clear he had no interest in Blu-Ray

Then he is ignorant as to the wants and needs of his customers. He also says many things contrary to what actually happens - like video iPod's, phones and PDA's (as that IS what the iPod touch is - along with a gaming system and music player).

Apple is not about to drop the ball on HD media. If you stream, DL or On Demand content - it is not the same nor as portable. What about games on the PS3? What is you wanted to take a game with you to a friends house but it was only available as a download? Now what? I am sure Sony and other companies would not allow you to drop the game on an external HD to play it at a friends house. You CAN do that with the disc.

I think Apple will get on board - it is not like it will cost them anything...please! It is a DRIVE! No royalties are paid directly by Apple to BR other than from the cost of the drive - and Apple will pass that along to the consumer - at a 4x premium over other companies.

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Then he is ignorant as to the wants and needs of his customers.

Doy. Apple gives us what Steve wants in a product. Extrapolated from this, Steve doesn't listen to the radio, use voice dialing, or own a Blu-ray player. Deal with downloads; Apple isn't going to kill iTunes by offering Blu-ray.

Apple is not about to drop the ball on HD media. If you... ...DL... ...it is not the same nor as portable.

No, because the 1/1000 of a yoctogram that the electrons of a digital copy weigh are not as portable as a spinning disk. I realize that the download is on a hard drive, but it's just as portable; stop kidding yourself.

...please! It is a DRIVE! No royalties are paid directly by Apple to BR other than from the cost of the drive

H. D. C. P.
 
Then he is ignorant as to the wants and needs of his customers. ...

I think Apple will get on board - it is not like it will cost them anything...please! It is a DRIVE! No royalties are paid directly by Apple to BR other than from the cost of the drive - and Apple will pass that along to the consumer - at a 4x premium over other companies.

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Who's ignorant? Steve Jobs knows that BD is primarily for movies right now, and there are significant licensing fees involved. Royalties are paid far beyond the cost of the drive for the technology involved, and he's not willing to submit to the ridiculous demands that go along with it. Until we get a BD drive with no limitations, which means the licensing is worked out to his satisfaction, we're not going to get one at all.

jW
 
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