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he's not willing to submit to the ridiculous demands that go along with it.

So are Sony/HP/Acer etc burning their children or putting their body parts on Ebay to fund <£1k BD drivers - or is Steve Jobs just lying.

I know what I think.

The most ridiculous demands are the demands made on Mac users when paying for hardware at a 50% margin.
 
So are Sony/HP/Acer etc burning their children or putting their body parts on Ebay to fund <£1k BD drivers - or is Steve Jobs just lying.

I know what I think.

The most ridiculous demands are the demands made on Mac users when paying for hardware at a 50% margin.

Sony INVENTED the tech...

And I don't get it.

The margins are no more than 30%.
 
So are Sony/HP/Acer etc burning their children or putting their body parts on Ebay to fund <£1k BD drivers - or is Steve Jobs just lying.

I know what I think.

The most ridiculous demands are the demands made on Mac users when paying for hardware at a 50% margin.

The issue isn't hardware prices. Apple have to pay for Blu-Ray licensing on OSX. Those companies don't have that cost.
 
Sony INVENTED the tech...

And I don't get it.

The margins are no more than 30%.

No, Sony didn't. Not by itself anyway.

A guy named Shuji Nakamura invented the blue laser used in the technology (even though Sony tried and failed).

There are 17 companies that hold IP to the BluRay technology.
 
Is there any rumor as to the speed bump (both CPU and GPU) from the current 3.06GHz iMac and the future rumored iMac? Trying to figure out if its worth buying the refurbed 3.06 with NVIDIA GPU at $1899 or not.
 
Is there any rumor as to the speed bump (both CPU and GPU) from the current 3.06GHz iMac and the future rumored iMac? Trying to figure out if its worth buying the refurbed 3.06 with NVIDIA GPU at $1899 or not.

The CPU won't be bumped, since they're already at "Montevina" speeds. The GPU should get somewhat better. Barely, but somewhat.
 
The CPU won't be bumped, since they're already at "Montevina" speeds. The GPU should get somewhat better. Barely, but somewhat.

That's what I figured as well. At $1899, it seems like a decent price, but I'm sure the same/similar config will come down a bit in price, don't you think? Should be an interesting MacWorld either way.
 
most of the people I know including myself don't want Blu-ray.

I have over 1000 DVDs. I dont buy them anymore and I am not about to replace my entire collection with blu-ray discs. I watch Netflix on my xbox 360 or I get netflix in the mail.

I don't care about blu-ray.

Neither does apple. They want you to own an itv and buy or rent movies from itunes.

I don't understand why none of you get this....
 
You may not understand it, but some people want Blu-Ray for reasons besides watching movies. They have their needs, you have yours. Why be so snippish about it?

what other reasons? I am not being "snippish" I am just confirming what Job's said "Bag of hurt" Apple clearly has no desire to put Blu-ray in their computers.
 
Are you kidding?

I wish that we could see something like this iMac with a see through screen. It is obviously fake and would never happen, but that would be a cool design for the future. This is what the actual 20-in iMac that is coming out should have:
-2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
-2GB memory
-320GB HD
-NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS with 256MB memory
-$1099


With all the ridiculous, endless bitching about the slightly transparent menu bar in Leopard you think a semi-transparent screen will be forthcoming? It is not only not cool, it's retarded.
 
Is there any rumor as to the speed bump (both CPU and GPU) from the current 3.06GHz iMac and the future rumored iMac? Trying to figure out if its worth buying the refurbed 3.06 with NVIDIA GPU at $1899 or not.
There will probably be a 133 MHz speed bump, assuming they stay at mobile dual-core. That would bring the 3.2 GHz version to 55 W, just like the current 3.07 GHz version.

DATA BACKUPS.

Or maybe you'd lose 50 gigs of data and not bat an eyelash.
External HDs.
 
My PC blew up a few weeks ago so I’ve decided to move over to an iMac but I’m holding off until MacWorld09 but here are a few things I would like to see in the new Macs:

Intel Quad core CPU
3-4GB RAM as standard
More USB ports. 3 isn’t enough in the back of the machine
Snow Leopard. If not then at least a free upgrade or money off coupon
Some Memory Card reader options (maybe the reader could be attached to the keyboard?)
Maybe an increase of screen size to 26 or 28 inches but I don’t see it happening
On the topic of Blu-Ray, I don’t care. I’ve had DVD drives on my PC’s and Laptops for years and I’ve never once sat down at my desk to watch a film. Either way I prefer to watch Blu-Ray films on my 47inch HD TV with 5.1 surround sound instead

Better off buying A PC this is 2-3 years off for an imac
 
DATA BACKUPS.

MrZebra said:
That can fail just like your primary hard disk.

Tallest Skil said:
And Blu-ray disks can be scratched, instantly ruining everything on them.

Time Capsule!

Tightly integrated and automated backups with OS X, add as much capacity, security and reliability as you want (It might be possible to hook up a RAID system through USB if I am not wrong).

We consumers want everything under the sun in our Mac. Don't we? :)
 
what other reasons? I am not being "snippish" I am just confirming what Job's said "Bag of hurt" Apple clearly has no desire to put Blu-ray in their computers.

Backing up 50 gig to a single optical disk. Yes please
Watching HD content. Yes please
Authoring HD content. Yes please.

Lots of reasons that I want a BD drive. You may not share them - but Apple can not suggest they are a 'Pro' platform if you can't master HD content.



Doug
 
The mystery of PA Semi is the most interesting thing about Apple right now.

Those polls are from MacRumors? I'd bet that the population is bit different in the "real world." Matted would be nice, but is unlikely. (Unfortunately.)
While I don't want to start an argument I have to agree that the comments in favor of matt screens are highly biased in the forums. I don't know how good Apples research on the subject is but I'm not really convinced that all of the so called professional want matt screens. Then you have the reality that if it is a problem you can simple put a matt coating or glare reduction screen over that glossy screen.
That is where we agree. Nvidia could have something in the works to bring i7, it's just highly unlikely.
I do disagree with it being unlikely, Nvidia will have to support Quickpath sooner or later. One could argue that the current 9400M would be a little low end for i7 but really it is all about timing. Also Quickpath implies that the integrated chipsets can drop some of it's internal logic. This means more room for GPU execution units or simply a lower power device. For Nvidia to stay around they need to support Quickpath sometime in the future, how soon in the future is the big question.
The addition of P.A Semi would make an interesting addition to this. However I'm hoping that the P.A Semi gains would be a little more than an i7 processor on the iMac.
I don't know what is up with PA Semi. Apple originally made allusions to PA making chips for iPods. This sounds reasonable as their would have been a huge payoff there. Then during all the legal wrangling with IBM over Papermaster they declare that PA was part of the Mac Division. Now it is one thing to make public declaration to throw off your competitors it is another thing to go into a court room and make statments that are misleading. It could very well be that PA is working on desktop hardware. Either that or Apple reorganized operations quickly when faced with IBMs Papermaster challenges. In any event it does bring into question just what PA is doing for Apple.

One thing Apple could do is to have PA team up with Nvidia to improve the I/O and other chipsets functions on the 9400M. PA did some interesting things with the integration of serial I/O on their PPC chips. Honestly though I'm not sure nvidia would be open to the idea of external IP in their integrated chipsets. So this comes back to us with the question of just what PA is doing for Apple. Are they working on desktop/laptop chips? If so what would the advantage be for Apple? If they aren't then what is holding up the 17 inch MBP replacement? What would be the advantage of PA working on an ARM SoC when Samsung could tie together all the little IP blocks themselves.

PA Semi is more of a mystery at Apple now then when they where first purchased. I just hope that they don't go the way of Racer and a lot of other Apple purchases.
Maybe a Tablet or unknown device.
Let's just call it an unkown device. In anyevent if it is an ARM based device I have to wonder why they just dont get Samsung to do the design? For most devices I could imagine all the functionality required can be found in existing IP blocks. So I fall back to what IP could Apple justify creating on it's own? For the small device class it is hard to say, on the otherhand Apple has a long history of making chipsets for it's desktop machines.
BTW- thank you for the correction.




The point is that you're not getting the full HD effect. You paid for it, why not expect it?

The biggest problem with HD on Apples laptops is that density high enough for HD movies is to high for app use. At least for many of us old folks ;). Support for HD will be more exceptable when resolution independencevactually makes to Mac OS.

In other words I agree that you should get the full resolution if you want to play a movie. I just don't want to see regular app usage suffer.


Dave
 
Dear Santa,

I'd like to see
24" LED display
2.66 Core2Quad Q9400 / 2.83 Core2Quad Q9550 (12mb / L2)
4gb DDR3 Ram (up to 8gb)
500gb 7200rpm HDD (up to 1gb)
nVidia GeForce 9600M GT (512) + GeForce 9600M GT (512MB) w/ MiniDisplayPort or HDMI out for Dual-Link with new 24" Cinema Display
ExpressCard /34
-- and / or -
1 eSata
1 Firewire 800
4 USB ports
SDHC / MMC memory card reader



Options:
Blu-Ray, I don't think it's a necessary option, but at least gives those who might want it (crippled or not), let them have it. My argument for using it as a backup is defeatable if a fast transport is available like eSata (which I'm a big fan of seeing added, especially if Firewire is removed)
 
And Blu-ray disks can be scratched, instantly ruining everything on them.

Yes, but while I can prevent from scratches the DVDs I use for extremely important backups by paying attention, there's nothing I can do to keep my time capsule from failing.

An integrated BD writer would be very handy for me, even though it's not something I can't live without.
 
Yes, but while I can prevent from scratches the DVDs I use for extremely important backups by paying attention, there's nothing I can do to keep my time capsule from failing.

An integrated BD writer would be very handy for me, even though it's not something I can't live without.
Just asking, but does anyone have any data on the average failure rate across the board for HD's right now?
 
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