Why does Apple sell the iPhone 11,12,13 at the same time then? People here claim the phones haven't changed much in a few years. By your logic there, that decision doesn't make sense.
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Because the iPhone is apples best selling product and Apple like to have availability for all budgets pretty much all of the time, whereas the Apple Watch has a far cheaper entry price, and has multiple price point depending on straps, case material etc…
The watch also has no where near the number of units sold as the iPhone (Apple sold approx. 30 million apple watches and 200 million iPhones in 2020).
Coupled with the fact the only 11 and 12 models they sell are all non-pro models so those wanting higher end stainless models have to go with the latest iPhone.
Also imagine the Series 4 having a £179 ($199) price tag… seriously that would majorly destroy sales of the S7.
That 20 percent increase in display size may not look significant on paper, but when you see it like this, it does make the series 6 look somewhat outdated. It’s possible the larger panel was originally intended for the “real” redesigned AW series 7, but for people who prefer the rounded design, this appears to be a nice looking reprieve until next year’s AW series 8 (if that ends up getting the redesign instead). If I get a AW S7 this year, there’s a possibility I’ll also get the series 8 next year if it gets redesigned.
I find it so interesting that people who aren’t getting the S7 come on to comment on the S7 articles, justifying to a bunch of strangers why they aren’t upgrading and in general inserting all of their negativity for no reason other than to make themselves feel better about not getting the new shiny thing others are in fact excited about.
The truth is is that most of these people just have sour grapes about not upgrading. I’m not saying they couldn’t if they wanted to, or can’t afford it or anything like that. Maybe they’re on a two-year cycle of upgrading or they are genuinely happy with the series 6 that they have. But just like every bully is in fact a coward, all the people things like, “meh, looks like I’ll wait for the series 8” or “guess I’m staying with my series 6 for another year“ are sad they aren’t in on the “fun” of launch day.
I had a S6, which was an upgrade over my S4. The S6 broke, but before it did I had decided I’d probably wait until the S8. But after a month or so with the S4, I REALLY miss the AOD! No brainer for someone S4 or older I think. 20% larger display on a display this already bound by the size of the human wrist is a pretty big upgrade honestly. Faster charging is more useful than ECG or even PulseOx.
Besides, I’d rather have those “moderate” upgrades for a year and trade it in for a pretty big chunk off the S8 if it knocks my socks off than keep my S4.
Anyway, that’s my rant. To the haters, we all know you’re just sad. It’s gonna be ok, mkay?
The truth is is that most of these people just have sour grapes about not upgrading. I’m not saying they couldn’t if they wanted to, or can’t afford it or anything like that. Maybe they’re on a two-year cycle of upgrading or they are genuinely happy with the series 6 that they have. But just like every bully is in fact a coward, all the people things like, “meh, looks like I’ll wait for the series 8” or “guess I’m staying with my series 6 for another year“ are sad they aren’t in on the “fun” of launch day.
I had a S6, which was an upgrade over my S4. The S6 broke, but before it did I had decided I’d probably wait until the S8. But after a month or so with the S4, I REALLY miss the AOD! No brainer for someone S4 or older I think. 20% larger display on a display this already bound by the size of the human wrist is a pretty big upgrade honestly. Faster charging is more useful than ECG or even PulseOx.
Besides, I’d rather have those “moderate” upgrades for a year and trade it in for a pretty big chunk off the S8 if it knocks my socks off than keep my S4.
Anyway, that’s my rant. To the haters, we all know you’re just sad. It’s gonna be ok, mkay?
That might happen on a cheaper SE model if someone at Apple loses their mind, but the top level Apple watches will NEVER have square edges on the device. The rumor mill around this “phone style” case and flat crystal was always considered ridiculous among any people knowledgable about horological design matters.
Square edges on a watch are incredibly stupid, especially on an aluminum body.
I see just about every reason to upgrade from my ss series 4. So I did. If we get flat edges next year (which I just can’t imagine looking good on a watch) I’ll wait and see if I like it. If so I’ll upgrade again. Other then that the design is gonna be basically the same for the next 3-4 years at the very least with the major focus being on medical sensors. And I’m excited about that as well, but we’re not getting the biggies like BP and Blood Glucose for 3 years minimum. But I think will upgrade again when we get body temp which we will see maybe in 8 but probably 9. Overall I’m very excited for my 7.
I don’t have sour grapes I just don’t want to drop £649 on a mediocre upgrade, that’s my choice and I am happier not spending the money.
People who are saying their not upgrading is just like anyone saying they are, it’s each to their own, but personally I would have sour grapes spending £649 on the series 7, that’s why I am not upgrading lol 😂
Its just as easy to say that everyone defending the S7 are doing so to make themselves feel better and justify that they have just dropped several hundred $$$ for a series 6 with a slightly bigger screen.
Wow, defensive much? If you really didn’t care about the series 7, you wouldn’t be posting in the threads about it. It’s very easy to just not go into the comments on an article or to not select a thread you’re not interested in. So easy that I do it every time I come to MacRumors. I just don’t go reading the threads about the 13 Pro Max, because…wait for it…I don’t want one. I mean, I could go into all the posts and comment about how it’s too big and not different enough from what I have and maybe next year Apple will get it right, but that would just be really, really sad.
If you go and search my post history you’ll see that I didn’t come on the forums last year and announce to a bunch of strangers that I wasn’t getting the watch 6 because it wasn’t a big enough upgrade from the 5. I simply thought, “nah, I’m good with what I have” and moved on. I don’t want to spend my life complaining that some company who owes me nothing didn’t give me what I wanted to a bunch of people who are excited to be getting what they want. Like, seriously, there are better ways to spend your time.
It's a huge upgrade from a 4 in every respect, surely you can see that?
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This isn't Horology. It's a wrist computer. A flat square top would be great with a stainless body and a mostly flat sapphire crystal.
Back to actual watches.....Most watch designs are terrible. The actual good watch designs out there are all boring (and then get copied terribly)
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I don't get it. What makes this poor quality image more "real-world" than the one on Apple's site? Other than having an ugly background and tons of shadows, how is this more revealing?
Not really no, I can see improvements sure, but nothing significant. The S4 is still super fast and have pretty decent battery life, I think I’ll upgrade when the new watches get new meaningful sensors.
Why is S7such a huge upgrade?
I think that is a good attitude. My series 0 was sluggish and a battery that was getting problematic when I got the 6 a year ago. I was thinking of replacing the battery, but anyway the difference when you skip 5 generations is appreciable.
To set the record straight, my first post on this post was nothing to do with me not getting it… it was actually stating how I liked how they have wrapped the metal around the edge more which gives an illusion that the screen was made larger than it actually has been.
To this someone actually thanks me for pointing out an observation as when the screen is off it may actually look smaller… that’s all my initial post was, an observation on Apples chosen design.
I did not just post… I’m not getting it because XYZ…
And for the record just because I am not buying a product does not mean I don’t care about it, I care about whatever Apple launches as it gives insight into upcoming products and the direction in which Apple are taking certain product lines, and in a forum which is dedicated to upcoming and previously released Apple products I think it would be a bit of a dull forum if people never gave their opinion on products either rumoured or launched.
People on here accusing people of having ‘sour grapes’ because their not upgrading etc… that isn’t the case… what is the case for these people is that they probably feeling a bit gutted and let down because they expected a bigger overhaul to the design etc than what Apple ended up launching resulting in them not wanting to upgrade, but that is everyone’s personal opinion… there are people out there who bought the iPhone 13 this year because it had a smaller notch fgs… not because the extra camera upgrades etc… it’s just a case of whatever will encourage you to buy a certain product.
Just because the S7 isn’t a major overhaul doesn’t mean I hate it, have sour grapes that I am not buying it or any of those things, because if my S4 broke today I would likely go out and buy the S7… but at this point in time, with my S4 working perfectly, I just don’t feel a need to upgrade to the S7 as personally it doesn’t give me a enough reason to warrant the upgrade, but that is just my opinion on it.
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Nor you or anyone else can make a prediction without you knowing Apples trajectory. You’re simply mudslinging with no source to back your statement.
If there’s one product that has the potential to change in so many directions, it’s the Apple Watch. It’s still really in its early infancy, and the potential to have design changes is far greater than the knowledge than any of use would have.
I think my aging eyes would appreciate the larger display. I like that it’s closer to being edge-to-edge.
I still wish for much better battery life. I’m used to wearing some heavy watches, even when active. I wonder how much difference another 30g of battery would make. Yeah, double the weight, but I don’t even feel my Apple Watch on my wrist.
I still wish for much better battery life. I’m used to wearing some heavy watches, even when active. I wonder how much difference another 30g of battery would make. Yeah, double the weight, but I don’t even feel my Apple Watch on my wrist.
I hear what you’re saying about reducing bezels where there’s a real opportunity and without compromise to function or durability.
But I’m curious, for those who want zero bezels, have you picketed in front of the local museum to request they remove the antique frames from the paintings inside? Or removed all the pictures in your home from their frames and put them back up on the wall? Or replaced all pictures in your home with a minimalist, bezelless frame? And removed all the baseboard and crown molding in your home so you can see as much of the wall and floor and ceiling as possible?
The smaller bezels shrink away, the less secure I can hold my phone or ipad while not covering part of the screen or unintentionally enacting part of the screen. The smaller bezels shrink away, the harder it is to swipe from offscreen when using a case, for those of us knuckle draggers who add some protection to the $1000 glass/jewelry fashion statements that Apple sells, and the less protected the MacBook screen is (and Apple Watch) from accidental bumps.
I’m not yelling at clouds in the sky or the kid whose ball lands in my yard, I’m yelling at the company who’s trending towards removing all clouds and removing my yard so the ball always hits my window each time.
A lot of this war on bezels is silly and may backfire, just like the war on thickness led to butterfly keyboards, bending iPhones, cracked screens, etc.
I hear what you’re saying about reducing bezels where there’s a real opportunity and without compromise to function or durability.
But I’m curious, for those who want zero bezels, have you picketed in front of the local museum to request they remove the antique frames from the paintings inside? Or removed all the pictures in your home from their frames and put them back up on the wall? Or replaced all pictures in your home with a minimalist, bezelless frame? And removed all the baseboard and crown molding in your home so you can see as much of the wall and floor and ceiling as possible?
The smaller bezels shrink away, the less secure I can hold my phone or ipad while not covering part of the screen or unintentionally enacting part of the screen. The smaller bezels shrink away, the harder it is to swipe from offscreen when using a case, for those of us knuckle draggers who add some protection to the $1000 glass/jewelry fashion statements that Apple sells, and the less protected the MacBook screen is (and Apple Watch) from accidental bumps.
I’m not yelling at clouds in the sky or the kid whose ball lands in my yard, I’m yelling at the company who’s trending towards removing all clouds and removing my yard so the ball always hits my window each time.
A lot of this war on bezels is silly and may backfire, just like the war on thickness led to butterfly keyboards, bending iPhones, cracked screens, etc.
I get your point but it doesn't really apply to the watch as its strapped to your wrist. And it's actually more durable than previous models.
I've had Series 0, 3, 4, and now 5. I've never had 1 full day. I think it depends what your watch is doing. I don't do anything special or out of the ordinary (I believe).
The larger display jump from 3 to 4 was really great IMO. Looking forward to seeing how the 7 change is.