I wonder how long they will keep the 13 inch MacBook Pro going? From a thermal point of view the M1 doesn’t seem to break a sweat and so far I’ve rarely even had the fan on despite some significant loads during some big compiles. Hard to imagine it couldn’t support something like M1 Pro or even Max, and would be a life line to those who really hate the notch and love the touchbar. Probably wishful thinking though.
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I had iPhone Max, iPhone 11 Max and now awaiting arrival of iPhone 12Max. All have notches and I don't even notice them. Same for this mac. Appreciate the thinner bezels, more display estate. Critical apps like Logic and Final Cut always are in full display, so OS doesn't show any notches.
No problems. I however, use M2 and dGPU equipped desktop for these apps, so I am wondering if I should prioritize mobility first and buy MBA M1 16GB. But MBP gives base 16GB/512GB and much stronger GPU, so....
No problems. I however, use M2 and dGPU equipped desktop for these apps, so I am wondering if I should prioritize mobility first and buy MBA M1 16GB. But MBP gives base 16GB/512GB and much stronger GPU, so....
It looks like it’s following the border radius of the overall screen. So because the iPhone has more rounded corners, the notch is the same. That’s probably why it’s more “squared” - but I get your point
There are some apps that has very long menu column. Those will be split. Someone tweeted about it awhile ago you can search Twitter for it.
The price is a lot more because there are a lot more CPU cores, GPU cores and RAM. Of course they are more expensive.
That's exactly what this MBP design about.
Because the menu bar is whole (just like before), not half.
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the wedge of the Air is not so ergonomic. Keyboards should not be higher in back than front as it adds strain to your wrist. Flat is better for a keyboard. Having said that, the slope on the MBA is pretty slight so the effect will be slight as well, just not a benefit.
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I'm someone who likes the shift to function over form but at the same time I do agree, design is important, and these machines aren't as elegant as what they are replacing. I prefer this tradeoff, but I know there are those that don't.
I will add that, if you compare these to machines of comparable power (workstation-class laptops), Apple's are more elegant, since most manufacturer's workstation laptops tend to be more industrial-looking. That includes Dell's laptop workstation, which Dell says is actually the lightest and thinnest among laptop PC workstations: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...-22e6-4155-a2dc-d0c04a00daa4#features_section So it's not as if Apple has abandoned design.
Also, Apple's product design isn't stagnant. With the butterfly generation, Apple moved the pendulum heavily towards the aesthetic side. After a few years with that design they had enough data to decide whether they needed to reassess. In that case, they did. The same thing will happen with this design--with the test of time we'll all see if this new design gets a generally positive reception or not.
I don’t think that design doesn’t matter but I also don’t think that the notch is “hideous” as some have proclaimed. Every design is a balance and compromise between multiple factors. You can prioritize the esthetics like the 2016 design or you can prioritize the function as these do more. Neither one is purely esthetic or purely functional, they just sit a little more one way or another on a continuum. There is a lot of fretting here about design changes that none of us have seen except in some non-representative marketing shots or some basically shot videos. I suspect once we can see these “in the flesh” they will look less radical and more coherent.
I prefer this tradeoff as well, but **** those are ugly laptops.
I don't understand why they couldn't have those edges from the previous Macbook Pros, they made the laptops look a lot slimmer, even though the actual thickness doesn't differ much.
Anyways, still looking forward to my base model 14" with 1 TB, but it's definitely more of a trade-off than a strict upgrade.
They are not there on the M1 Airs, either. I had to look because I don’t think I’ve ever adjusted the keyboard brightness except my mistake when I was trying to adjust the screen brightness and used the wrong keys. That was on an older MBP and the icons look a lot alike.
There’s a lot of body shaming going on with this computer. Who hasn’t put in a few pounds during the last year? So, it’s got some love handles. It happens to the best of us.
I have keyboard light adjustment on menu bar and it does the job fine.
Wow, I’ve never even considered changing the keyboard brightness. Just set it to max and it’s still pretty dim.
Volume and screen brightness on the other hand, I change dozens of times a day, maybe more.
Well, the 2001 PowerBook is still an iconic design. It’s just like saying why make macOS look like System 1 by having a menu bar or NeXTStep by having a Dock. The amazing thing about the Apple platform is it’s lineage and consistency. Taking some design cues from previous products is nothing bad. Look at the iPhone 12/13, they both share a similarity to the iPhone 4/5. Remember those old products were designed by Jony, too.
David Pogue explained some of the design reasons for the Notch:
But, I think Apple is planning on other investments in the Notch on the Mac, obviously Face ID. They are a business too, which means, they are gonna make the second generation the same size with Face ID to get you to upgrade. In 2023, they will make it smaller like how they made the notch smaller on the iPhone 13 to get you to upgrade to each iteration.
I also think we are gonna see Touch come to the Mac in maybe a few generations, so the size is likely training the mind and slowly get app devs to mod their apps for when that happens. Apple knows so many of users are exposed to its platforms through its touch first devices (iPhone and iPad). And it someways puts the Mac at a disadvantage of not having some rudimentary touch capability built in even its just for the ported iPad apps that would still benefit from it. But what I suspect will happen is they are gonna radically change design of the Menu bar probably in the next version of macOS. Likely it will be split off into two different sections for file menus and status.
Looks stupid ?♂️? what's the point of having a thick black bar cover the notch from end to end, it's like you're using the previous 16" model. ?
I suspect that the squared off top was necessary to accommodate the mini LED screen without making the lid even thicker, and the bottom was rounded so it wouldn’t be even heavier.
Why can’t we continue to complain? Some of us buy apple products for what they do. I wont switch to an android because of the notch, I’m too invested. So like most of us we put up with it. Doesnt mean we like it and can’t continue not to like it. It’s livable with but not great. But the alternative to switch over is just full of compromises. We choose which ones mean more.
