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New Images Offer Even Closer Look at New 14-Inch MacBook Pro
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The point is for the notch to take the unused space in the middle of the menu bar. How is that disrupting the menu bar? And how is that pixel sized remnant of the menu bar at the bottom of the notch make it any less “disruptive“?
Sigh. Again we have the 'pro' argument. For every 'Pro' you give me that hated the old design I will give you two that loved it. This new design is a cross between a terribly bland Huawei chassis and an enormous compromise on the screen in the form of a notch. I've read through all seven pages of this thread and not a single person has said they love the notch, people either think its ugly or they attempt to justify it on a function over form argument.
But this laptop has M1 Pro/Max so will sell very well because a lot of people, professional or otherwise, will overlook the fact their laptop looks like it should be cemented into a wall and get on with their day to day business with these faster chips.
Why does it need to be two menu bars in such a design? It can just be one menu bar like it always is but there’s just a notch in the middle without it sticking out past the bottom of the notch. But now that you’ve mentioned it, all app menu items are always on the left of the menu bar while status icons are to the right. So even if it is two separate menu bars like you assume, it still wouldn’t be a bad design.
No they don't. There's thousands of black keyboards out there.
That's true. No one likes the notch. It's something that, when it's gone, everyone will be glad it's gone. No one is going to say "I miss the notch" the way some miss the TouchBar or the thinner design.
The iPhone notch could be argued to be a compromise. It's a way to fit FaceID components while also maximizing the phone screen space. The alternative is a hole punch, but there can't be a hole punch when you have FaceID. But there's no need for it on the MBP. It's purely an aesthetic choice. They chose a notch over having a "forehead". I personally would've preferred the "forehead" any day, since that's what we've always had and it's effectively there in full-screen mode anyway. The notch is just ugly and unnecessary.
This new design is a compromised device, with an attempt to please everyone, which never turns out well.
The Space Gray color (at least as seen in these photos, apparently shot under fluorescent lighting) looks especially drab in this new MBP design. It may be time for me to return to the silver.
If you use these machines for a day you will forget that the notch is even there.
yep, silver all the way on these models. The black keyboards will contrast nicely with the silver, where as you say SG is drab.
yeah, definitely don't want to get into any discussion with you, WAY to into the weeds for me. no point. ignore I said anything.
That’s why you own an iPhone?
You guys need to get over the notch. It’s here to stay for at least the next 4 years. It’s also coming to the MacBook Air. Apple always unifies the design.
If you ask me - and I know you care - the notch is ugly but how else will people know I spent $3k on my touchless iPad Pro with a built in keyboard computer??!
In comparison to 2020 MBA/MBP this is huge disappointment for me:
- notch is really distracting, you can't hide menu anymore - at the end more screen estate is wasted. Looks like designers made a notch, just because it was possible with miniled,
- no more wedge shape - which was great for wrists comfort, now it is gone (ok that was only MBA feature - but it will be gone in new MBAs),
- return of fans - guarantee for noise and dust clutter over time,
- perceived performance increase over M1 is minimal - can't justify price increase over 2020 MBA/MBP.
- magsafe is actualy step backward - I use USB for charging with magsafe adapters - so I can have single charger for every device
They didn’t unify the design of the touchbar.
Fortunately for me there is plenty of legroom left in my M1 MacBook Pro, if that will last for 4 years though, I think maybe not. But I’m going to try!
Also, because I seem to be one of the few that actually loves the touchbar and uses it daily… The touchbar is an extremely useful tool, but Apple never fully embraced it so why would they expect their users to? Unless you actually found a good use for it (which I did, but so many others didn’t), then it’s easy to see why people thought it should go.
Well, this isn't really meant to replace the M1 MBA. That should be coming out next year. Will be disappointing if the next MBA has a notch, but I don't see how it won't have one at this point.
I meant my 2019 13" will not work with the XDR. The options were to sell and by a 2020 13" or a 2021 14". I went with the 14".
This is not a replacement for the Air. This replaces the MacBook Pros.
The notch is in a new expanded area of the screen where they are putting the menu.
These MBPs always has fans. The new ones are designed to use the fans less often.
These are at least twice as fast as the M1 and the GPU is multiple times as fast. The M1 is for Apples low end machines. These are the performance laptops for professional use. Definitely worth the small increase in price from the systems they replace.
If you want to you can continue to use USB-C for charging.
You are throwing shade at the designers but they have produced a phenomenal product that balances a range of needs in a form that don’t compromise functionality on the alter of sleekness the way the 2016 designs did
Wow, now I can't unsee that. Rounded top corners that don't "flow" with the notch and the bottoms are hard 90 degree angles. /facepalm
I'm gonna miss the touch bar. It was very convenient to tap dialog buttons ("Save", "Cancel", "Record" and the like). Now I will have to resort to the very cumbersome precision trackpad ballet again.
Also, why have function keys? F1 F2 F3... ???? I understand that there are folks from 1965 who need those for their cotton weaving mills, but shouldn't these keys have gone with the CD-ROM drive?? Innovation hello?
Also, why have function keys? F1 F2 F3... ???? I understand that there are folks from 1965 who need those for their cotton weaving mills, but shouldn't these keys have gone with the CD-ROM drive?? Innovation hello?
Without knowing which brands these products are, the ones at the left are clean and elegant, the ones at the right are not. I don't like the fact that Apple is making weird design decisions just to be different.
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