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New Intel Mac mini

delgado said:
If all I want to do is use this to watch movies on my tv & control my massive stereo system, will this be good enough? Will DVDs look as good as they would on a DVD player? Additionally, is there any reason to spring for the duo core or should I save my money? All the sound/video editing, word processing, etc, I will do on my powerbook. I assume that my planned activities are what apple has in mind when they designed this, but all y'all feaking out about the lack of video card scares me. Also, it seems many people on this thread assume apple has THEIR desires in mind, which I am hoping is just plain wrong. Anybody want to help me out a bit? Thanks!
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It's just as you say: a pointless freak out over trivial gripes. For standard definition content like DVDs and normal computer videos, the mini will work just fine. You can even watch DVDs in 5.1 surround. If you'll be watching video more or less exclusively, the dual core is an unnecessary expenditure (especially for $200 extra).

EDIT: too slow, haha.
 
thies said:
And a nice gaming rig from someone other than apple will cost me less than a mini with added ram.
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for once and for all, the mini's NOT for gaming! 🙄

would i buy an xbox to surf the web and do word processing?
 
I don't know, what people did expected what the "new" Mac Mini would look like, but I think it's still a great product. I'm not sure if the price is a little high.

EDIT: The share function in front row is also a very, very nice feature!
 
Its pretty good

Its just been mentioned so many times...Why are people claiming that graphics are not good enough to play games!! I dont know what games they were expecting to play, I mean Apple was never going to put a decent graphics card in the Mini ANYWAY. If they did put a dedicated graphics, it would probably be the same as the old Mini.

And even if say DOOM3 DID run on a say a dedicated graphics card like ATI 9550, it would run so crap on the mini because it wont have good graphics.

THe processor is so much better and things have been brushed up, and the Mini should convince many PC users to switch.

Shame about the slight price increase as it isnt "so low-end" but still its small and cute.
 
To all those who are pissing over Apple

shut up

THIS is the big technology. Using Bonjour you can have ALL your media on your iMac in one room, and have your Mac mini connected to your TV, BOOM all content on your iMac is available on your Mac mini, as if it was on it's HD. Stop acting like it was all a great failure! Now the media is going to go crazy, and report "Apple on a slippery hill?" or something retarded like that, and it's all because they see "Rating (435 Positives; 983 Negatives)" I admit that the iPod Hi-Fi, and the leather cases were a stupid announcement BUT many are overlooking the Mac mini!

just my £32.50 worth.

EDIT and if you want to play a high-end graphics game, then go get a PowerMac, or a iMac ever thought of that?! This is more of a Media Centre! NOT a gaming machine!
 
a soon to be release cheaper mini?

... in a month or so when intel release the NEXT celeron (65 nm process, 1Mo cache..) which seem to be twice as cheap as the core solo??
Ot will apple scrap these chips only for the name and loose their entry level price definitely??😕

Oh, hello everyone, I'm a newbie!!😱
 
geo10 said:
Here is the deal. For the most part find that I like Apple's design, but the delivery is horrible. I'm waiting for Vista and then I'll decide who will gets my money.


This newest Mac Mini is under powered and overpriced.

No PVR


Basic Vista machine will be much snappier, include HD Video, PVR.


That's all,
Adios
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Well, the key word in your message is "adios", troll.

Go get your Vista Home Basic Underpowered Edition and have luck.

The Mini, despite the whiners, is a relevant upgrade over the previous model.

- A MUCH faster processor;
- Graphics AT LEAST as good as the venerable Radeon 9200;
- Tiger Core-compatible graphics (including ripple effect);
- 2 EXTRA USB ports;
- video out/DVI;
- built-in AP and BT;
- optional Superdrive;
- Gigabit Ethernet;
- Apple Remote and Front Row;
- More standard RAM.

So, what THE HELL are ya complaining about? Price increase, all right...but the rest is FINE for a low-end machine.
 
BRLawyer said:
So, what THE HELL are ya complaining about? Price increase, all right...but the rest is FINE for a low-end machine.
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The specs are fine, the problem is that it is overpriced. If you check the UK prices for the imac and the mac mini you will see that the imac is a far better computer in almost every way and yet is competitively priced. The mac mini is so much weaker than that machine the price difference should be a lot more. The mini would be just fine if they charged a hundred quid less for it
 
kugino said:
for once and for all, the mini's NOT for gaming! 🙄

would i buy an xbox to surf the web and do word processing?
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It obviously isn't seeing that they crippled that ability in comparison to the old mini.
 
Kaiser Phoenix said:
Its just been mentioned so many times...Why are people claiming that graphics are not good enough to play games!! I dont know what games they were expecting to play, I mean Apple was never going to put a decent graphics card in the Mini ANYWAY. If they did put a dedicated graphics, it would probably be the same as the old Mini.

And even if say DOOM3 DID run on a say a dedicated graphics card like ATI 9550, it would run so crap on the mini because it wont have good graphics.

THe processor is so much better and things have been brushed up, and the Mini should convince many PC users to switch.

Shame about the slight price increase as it isnt "so low-end" but still its small and cute.
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The thing is, I have all of you getting their panties in a twist that it's not for gaming, that the mini is essentially just for media playback - err, you need a processor five times faster than the old mini for that? really? wow.
 
WHY oh WHY are so many people ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED that the Mac mini, Apples, ENTRY LEVEL computer has been updated to be an ENTRY LEVEL computer? Me no gets. Maybe I have amensia, but I don't rememer the Radeon 9200 being such a powerhouse.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
WHY oh WHY are so many people ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED that the Mac mini, Apples, ENTRY LEVEL computer has been updated to be an ENTRY LEVEL computer? Me no gets. Maybe I have amensia, but I don't rememer the Radeon 9200 being such a powerhouse.
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Because Apple boasts about having a CPU in there which is five times faster yet I don't see a progression from a Radeon 9200 to an equally more up to date graphics solution.
 
Quote from the old MacMini page at Apple.com-

'Go ahead, just try to play Halo on a budget PC. Most say they’re good for 2D games only. That’s because an “integrated Intel graphics” chip steals power from the CPU and siphons off memory from system-level RAM. You’d have to buy an extra card to get the graphics performance of Mac mini, and some cheaper PCs don’t even have an open slot to let you add one. '

Things change. Not being a tech-head I get the impression the Intel graphics on the new Mini is optimised for dealing with QT media. So lets just wait until the benchmarks come rolling in shall we? Did we honestly believe Apple would be stupid enough to give us an iMac beating Mini at a lower price?
No.
 
When everyones calmed down and the firsts real world tests of the new mini come in, I bet the computer will perform significantly better than the older model - even the integrated graphics.
 
Didn't I tell you all... didn't I?

Just a few hours ago it ws all 'blah, blah, tablets, blah, blah, iPod video touch screen, blah...', but didn't I say you'd be disappointed? Didn't I?

The thing is, I'm really disappointed too. I mean I knew the boom box would be poor, but I didn't realise it'd be that poor. And $99 iPod cases? I wonder what the margins on those are? And I still can't (practically) put the Mac Mini under my TV?

There really better had be more soon.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
WHY oh WHY are so many people ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED that the Mac mini, Apples, ENTRY LEVEL computer has been updated to be an ENTRY LEVEL computer? Me no gets. Maybe I have amensia, but I don't rememer the Radeon 9200 being such a powerhouse.
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u might not but the radeon blows the water out of any intergrated card. its facts. also, that means share memory, another downer and thus showing lack of quality in the intergrated card
 
illegalprelude said:
u might not but the radeon blows the water out of any intergrated card. its facts. also, that means share memory, another downer and thus showing lack of quality in the intergrated card
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How do you know that?..........

From MacWorld:

Macworld’s own Peter Cohen tells me that, at least on paper, the GMA950 is “considerably faster and more capable” than the ATI Radeon 9200 card included on the previous Mac mini.

Lots of conflicting information in this thread.
 
syriana said:
... in a month or so when intel release the NEXT celeron (65 nm process, 1Mo cache..) which seem to be twice as cheap as the core solo??
Ot will apple scrap these chips only for the name and loose their entry level price definitely??😕

Oh, hello everyone, I'm a newbie!!😱
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Hi.

I wouldn't be half surprised if you're right about this - I was thinking the same when I left work yesterday, but have only just got to a computer.

The RRP of the Core Solo used in the $599 Mac Mini is over $200. I think that Apple will get a significant discount however, and might be paying more like $120 - $150 for it. A low end Celeron M however might only cost apple $50 - $80. With a 40GB hard drive, and a couple of other things trimmed, Apple can make a $499 Mac Mini again ... in a couple of months. The question is if Apple would lower themselves to selling a ~1.4GHz Celeron M Mac Mini, and there's a ogod chance they wouldn't.

As to everybody else - this Mac Mini clearly isn't for a lot of you. It isn't meant to be a gaming machine, and the integrated graphics, whilst disappointing, will support the damn ripple and they'll be more than adequate for desktop usage.

The $799 one is worth the extra $200. If Apple can sell a SFF stand-alone Mac Mini with a dual-core processor, it gives me hope that the MacBook/iBook will come with a dual-core processor at the $999 price point, and that there will be a Core Solo variant for less money ($849?).
 
MacSA said:
When everyones calmed down and the firsts real world tests of the new mini come in, I bet the computer will perform significantly better than the older model - even the integrated graphics.
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Agreed! Let's give the New Mini a chance to prove itself. I have been waiting for a Media Center like unit running on OSX and I really don't plan to play games with it. However, I do expect to fully use its iLife features, including HD video encoding since I am planning to change camcorder. Presently, a standard 1Hr DVD takes 4 hrs to burn on the 867 G4 "SlowSilver" so I am kind of eager to change. Apple wouln't sell a product that can't fully run its software, right?
 
thies said:
Because Apple boasts about having a CPU in there which is five times faster yet I don't see a progression from a Radeon 9200 to an equally more up to date graphics solution.
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Sorry, but between a 1.0 CPU + 1.0 GPU and a 4.0 CPU + 1.0 IIG, I would clearly be satisfied with the latter...

Again, there was no downgrade in GPUs; perhaps not a huge upgrade...but AT THE VERY LEAST, a sidegrade or small upgrade (since it runs Tiger Core, which the 9200 did NOT).
 
illegalprelude said:
u might not but the radeon blows the water out of any intergrated card. its facts.
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Hardly. The Radeon 9200 isn't even Core Video compatible. It's a rinky dink entry level card. I'm not a fan of int. video, but let's face it, the main marketing target of the mini is not going to be pushing their computer to the limits. They are going to be writing emails, surfing the web, and viewing their digi pics. If they need a more robust system then they can jump up to the iMac. Besides, the specs for the int. video chipset look better than any other int. video chipset I've seen. Marginal, yes. But the mini is meant to be a marginal computer. Always has been.
 
ok so after all my moaning last night over the rip off price of £449 i gave in and bought the Mac Mini Solo stock

🙄
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Hardly. The Radeon 9200 isn't even Core Video compatible. It's a rinky dink entry level card.
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When people set up the new Mini and see the ripple effect in dashboard I bet they'll be exctatic LOL 😀 😀
 
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