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If long charging time is the only issue, and I don't have any heat or screen problems (which I don't so far), that's pretty darn good.
 
This hasn't been tested, it's an observation that I'm seeing however. My charging times seem to really vary depending on the cable and usb plug I'm using. I swear (but I might be crazy) that the iPad 3 charges fastest with the wall wart that and cable that came with it than when I use the iPhone style (smaller) usb wall adapter and another cable.

Does this make any sense at all, and is anyone else seeing this? I do know they charge slower on usb connected to a computer, but I'm talking straight from the wall and seeing variances in charge rates.

If you can read the microscopic fine print on your iPad stock charger you'll see "5v 2a"
and you're iPhone charger you'll see "5v 1a"
It really has nothing to to do with the cable and all about the wall adapter as you can see the iPad charger puts out 10 watts(5 volts x 2 amps) whilst the iPhone charge puts out a measly 5 watts and taking twice as long to charge. Just for messing around I found a 5 amp 5 volt or 25 watt power supply and the iPad 3 didn't charge any faster.
 
It takes 5 1/2 hours to charge mine. I charge it over night so it doesn't really matter how long it takes. When I wake up my iPad is ready to go.
 
The sad thing is that the iPod 4th/5th/classic generations all could charge at 5 AND 12 volts. Subsequent iOS devices don't have the capability. That's why when you plug in a newer iOS device into an old charging adapter from those years, you get the "This accessory isn't supported... and no charging..." message pops up.

That's true. I was kind of disappointed when they killed off my Firewire charger. That thing was great.
 
I ran mine down to zero last night so I could charge it overnight to calibrate the battery. The first time I charged it, it was on the USB port of my iMac and it took forever (didn't time it, but much longer than 6 hours). Taking the advice of others on this forum, I used the built in cable and wall wart last night. Getting much more sleep than MykullMyerz (I get about 6 1/2 hours of sleep a night), it was fully charged in the morning.
 
I ran mine down to zero last night so I could charge it overnight to calibrate the battery. The first time I charged it, it was on the USB port of my iMac and it took forever (didn't time it, but much longer than 6 hours). Taking the advice of others on this forum, I used the built in cable and wall wart last night. Getting much more sleep than MykullMyerz (I get about 6 1/2 hours of sleep a night), it was fully charged in the morning.

Yup I rally wish Apple would just make a 'Charging your iPad website' to clarify all of this confusing stuff about charging rates and different charging wattages. The newer Mac's (notebooks/desktops) all put out 1 amp on their usb ports which is the same as the iPhone adapter, but half the output of the 2 amps on your iPad charger. If you think that's bad, pity the poor PC user who's stuck with only 0.5 Amps! (the exception of some 3rd party motherboards that can put out >1 amp on their usb ports.)
 
You've got it backwards. A USB port doesn't push power to the iPad. The iPad draws power. Big difference.

sigh. a usb has the ability to act as a power source, some devices can be powered via usb while others do not. cause there is a line especially for it, its whether that device wants to tap it.
[the lines in a usb cable does not only consist of signals]

either they draw, or whatever, its still the same. all power hungry devices draw power inorder to work.
ur toaster draws power from a power plug, so what? ur wall plug isnt a power source?

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2A thru a 3ft wire incurs quite a substantial loss, get an extension between the wallplug and the adapter.

It's pretty absurd how long this takes to charge. I plugged my iPad in at around 1:30AM last night, woke up at 8:00 and looked at my iPad. It was just changing from 89% to 90%. Data was off, wifi was on. It's charging on the 10w charger from the box and going through three feet of USB extension (female to male, the ones Apple used to hand out with Mac Pros w/ wired keyboards).

I've been using it on and off the charger since then and I've not been able to get it above 94%.


So really, thus far I have not been able to fully charge the battery once since purchase.

This has around a 42 watt-hour battery. My MacBook Air 11" has a 37 watt-hour battery and can fully charge in pretty darn close to an hour with a 45w magsafe. Why isn't apple implementing a higher wattage power solution here? Surely they could have even put a magsafe on one of the tapered edges and allowed charging via that, or a special dock?


No complaints about actual battery life though, usage has been great. I'm just spoiled with being able to plug in my 4S/11" Air and gain charge so fast that I don't need to worry about the battery anymore.
 
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It makes no sense in a highly populated, energy- and transportation- starved world to be using a plane that's horribly inefficient and uses a lot of airport capacity for relatively few people.

The crash isn't what put it out of business. The crash put it out of business sooner, but even without that, when they reached EOL, no one would have built new ones, because it wouldn't be profitable with the capital needed.

like i had previously said. all new innovation comes with its trade-off. but not having done it, n further improving it, and finding something even better - is the worse backstep taken.

u can talk about all the inefficiencies in the world. but if u dont improve or find anything better, humanity will never advance anymore.

but what makes the world go around is money right now. humanity has gone one step back. the gov has to force the money in field where business makes no sense anymore.

passenger flight in supersonic speed died last decade and will most likely never be revived. however, thankfully such has not been abandoned. for example fighter jets in the military, where money is pumped in by the gov, indirectly by us taxpayers.


n fyi, concorde was profitable, even till its very last flight. but the commercial airliners earned much more from current passenger planes, that they totally phased it out.
 
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If you can read the microscopic fine print on your iPad stock charger you'll see "5v 2a"
and you're iPhone charger you'll see "5v 1a"
It really has nothing to to do with the cable and all about the wall adapter as you can see the iPad charger puts out 10 watts(5 volts x 2 amps) whilst the iPhone charge puts out a measly 5 watts and taking twice as long to charge. Just for messing around I found a 5 amp 5 volt or 25 watt power supply and the iPad 3 didn't charge any faster.

It CAN have something to do with the cables. Cheap/long cables have a higher resistance, and lower current than the short cable provided in the box.

I found this from personal experience by surfing the web while trying to charge, using the factory provided charger and a 6' Monoprice cable. Spent and hour at 84%, not charging at all. Switched to the shorter cable from the iPad box, and started charging at 10% per hour, while maintaining the same usage.

Someone else started a thread, and had measured the current provided by a few cables. The current varied quite a bit, with the short factory cable providing the best performance.

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No? Then what's this:

Hmm yes I see your point, clearly I made a wild interpretation.

Clearly you have never run a business. Sourcing components at the lowest possible price is not the same as souring cheap components. Lets say you issue a tender for 50 million display panels with xyz specification and the lowest cost supplier gets the business. The lowest cost supplier might be $70/unit. That's totally different to going down to Joe's Mini Mart and buying a load of cheap displays for $10 each.
 
Lets say you issue a tender for 50 million display panels with xyz specification and the lowest cost supplier gets the business. The lowest cost supplier might be $70/unit. That's totally different to going down to Joe's Mini Mart and buying a load of cheap displays for $10 each.

Your complaint was that Apple went with the lowest cost supplier of available screens (with the implication that this is a bad thing), that Apple did this instead of making something better themselves, and that Apple had nothing to do with the design, specs, etc. of the screens.

For someone unfathomable reason, you think Apple is obliged to produce a screen (or battery, or something else) themselves even if they can get exactly what they have in mind elsewhere from a company with the competitive advantage to do so at a better price.
 
like i had previously said. all new innovation comes with its trade-off. but not having done it, n further improving it, and finding something even better - is the worse backstep taken.

u can talk about all the inefficiencies in the world. but if u dont improve or find anything better, humanity will never advance anymore.

but what makes the world go around is money right now. humanity has gone one step back. the gov has to force the money in field where business makes no sense anymore.

passenger flight in supersonic speed died last decade and will most likely never be revived. however, thankfully such has not been abandoned. for example fighter jets in the military, where money is pumped in by the gov, indirectly by us taxpayers.


n fyi, concorde was profitable, even till its very last flight. but the commercial airliners earned much more from current passenger planes, that they totally phased it out.

Please use some punctuation, and if you are in the US, Canada, UK, Australia, or another English-speaking country, please use proper english all the way through.

Concorde was profitable because the planes were paid off back in the day of high, regulated airline prices. In today's world, the capital of such a thing wouldn't be paid off. It's hard to compete with an Airbus A380 or 747/777 planes when they can fly the route at 1/4 the cost.

There was something cool about being able to have breakfast in London and New York, but cool doesn't make it profitable.
 
The slow charging is the only thing I don't like. The charging brick gets really hot when running overnight. I hope Apple puts out a better charger that can use the doc connector.
 
THey almost doubled the capacity for the new iPad, not sure why they still included a 10W charger. They could have easily done with 15-20W charger and safely charged this battery.
 
THey almost doubled the capacity for the new iPad, not sure why they still included a 10W charger. They could have easily done with 15-20W charger and safely charged this battery.

Have you not been reading the multiple threads? As I've already found out by cutting up a USB adapter and plugging in a 25 watt power supply, it's the Dock connector that has now become a liability. It can't safely handle more than 10 watts in it's current form. How would Apple's reputation fare when iPad's start catching on fire or melting the dock connectors if they decided to ship the iPads with 40 watt power adapters and kept the same connectors? There's already over a hundred posts freaking out about yellow screens and uneven backlight already... :rolleyes:
 
sigh. a usb has the ability to act as a power source, some devices can be powered via usb while others do not. cause there is a line especially for it, its whether that device wants to tap it.
[the lines in a usb cable does not only consist of signals

The point was more aimed at your statement that charging through a USB port would somehow burn it out since the iPad needs more power. This is simply untrue. The iPad will not draw more power than the USB port can provide and as such, the USB port is working within its specifications which just won't let it burn itself out because an iPad has a bigger battery or needs longer to charge.
 
The point was more aimed at your statement that charging through a USB port would somehow burn it out since the iPad needs more power. This is simply untrue. The iPad will not draw more power than the USB port can provide and as such, the USB port is working within its specifications which just won't let it burn itself out because an iPad has a bigger battery or needs longer to charge.

really, i have no qualms with u thinking that way, keep thinking that usb controllers cant be burnt out.
 
6 hours - that's ridiculous. Apple should buy shares in the electricity companies the amount of money it's costing me every year to charge all my effing Apple gadgets.

Does it take the same length of time for the WiFi only version?

I'm starting to wonder why they bothered putting a 4G chip inside. Couldn't they have developed some form of mini wireless 4G router that connects remotely to all your Apple devices adding 4G. Bit like the MiFi product.

The WiFi version takes the same amount of time to charge up. And the 4G chip doesn't seem to drain the battery that much faster than WiFi anyway. (9 hours vs 10 hours)

And the iPad does come with MiFi capabilities... if your carrier supports it. Verizon in the US does, and you an connect up to 5 devices using the ipad's 4G signal.
 
With all the problems being reported I've already cancelled my iPad 3 order...

You would do well to read the ENTIRE forum and not focus on a handful of people who claim to have returned 80 iPads each or some such nonsense for even the most minute issue that no sane person would even notice.
 
i use my iPad 2 non-stop all day at work and have ~10% battery life left when i leave the office. then i turn the iPad off and plug it into a 2A car charger for my 1hr commute home. by the time i get home it's nearly at 100%. can't be that


but i don't have retina...
 
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I think its pretty silly that some of you are risking fires and product reliability because you don't have the patience to let it charge, further you could still use your iPad with it plugged in, so I really don't see what all this charge length complaints are all about.
 
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