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New iPad Pro Has Comparable Performance to 2018 15" MacBook Pro in Benchmarks

Holy **** my 2017 4.2ghz imac scores 5690 single and 19478 multi core. Amazing scores for the iPad. However, what did it get on the compute test? My iMac gets 119310 with OpenCL. This is one area where I think apple has a ways to go.
 
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Essaux said:
Pretty useless stat, since the iPad Pro is still very limited due to its OS. It will open Safari faster, yippekayee.
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If that is what you do with your iPad, then yes. However it is a limitation of your usage, not of the OS.

As well as browsing sitting on the sofa, I also use mine for audio production and as a looper/effect/synth/midi-converter/recorder combo (I.e. all of it running at once and connected with Audiobus) and more power is always welcomed.
That said I am still using a 9.7” pro which is just about doing the job at the moment (most of the time, if I don’t push it too far).
 
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I figure this could go 2 ways

1) iOS expands, with developers writing for it
2) They use this impressive power in the already mature Mac OS.

Place your bets here 😀
 
What does it matter really? Those devs don’t even update their iOS apps to support the iPad Pro 10.5 from well over a year ago to this day.
 
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Rudy69 said:
The move to Intel was pretty easy and a move to ARM would be even easier. The only thing that people would really be upset about would be losing Windows support.... but MS does offer an ARM version and I'm sure they would support new Macs pretty quickly
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I think you mean ms offers an arm version that’s pretty worthless.
 
blah blah blah filesystem ... did I do it right? 😀

I love all the 'splanations of benchmarks, right, everyone who really understands this gets it. I think it's interesting how Apple is incrementally staging this up: laptop performance, USB-C, external peripherals, movement (albeit slow ...) towards more discrete iPad iOS features, etc.
 
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Its funny how people berate the ipad and iOS in general always sighting the versatility of "real" computers.
But I remember before ipads and iOS there were loads of the different apps that were not being made because the form factor of the pc didn't suit it.

You never had cashier apps like square, handheld music control devices, using it to keep recipes whilst your cooking, drawing diagrams on the screen, controlling synths etc.. from your mac/macbook like you do with the ipad.
When you actually look at it, its the ipad that is far more versatile and configurable than the "real" computer!

The holy grail was Office, Photoshop and the file system. The things that meant that regardless of what the ipad could do a "real" pc was much better. Well, Office has been here for a while, the file system isnt that bad now and finally, photoshop is here (despite having Affinity already..).

Then it was the raw power that meant "real" computers were better... well thats not the case now being that it's pretty much faster than any mac under $2k!

And this with 10hr battery life, rugged durability (hardly any moving parts etc..), plus an OS that is designed not to waste power like a normal pc (that allow anything to run in the background, all the time).

For me I feel like people have to stop pretending that "real" computers are better for everyone right now. Desktop pc's are becoming far more specialist. If I wasnt a programmer I wonder why I would need macOS? Now that you can hook these ipads up to 5k screens and video edit or whatever, I think its a game changer.

Even music wise, I prefer making music on my mac because I'm just used to it. But what cubasis and beatmaker 3 are doing, you can easily make records on an ipad, no problem.

I just think the narrative has to change. The ipad is really the future of computing. Steve knew that, most of Apple internally understand that. I dont see how the whole wintel thing can grow further than it has now.
 
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cmaier said:
“But ARM isn’t as good as x86, because of some sort of RISC/CISC thing I skimmed on the internet and don’t really understand.”

ARM macs in 2020.
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I hope not. Not because ARM can't handle MacOS but simply I don't want to transition yet another painful architecture change. 68K->PPC->iAPX86->ARM? No thank you.
 
LordVic said:
it's not so easy. once you start scaling up like that, even ARM runs into thermal limits and power / performance issues.

this has been noticed and tested with server based ARM infrastructure. They offer some tremendous performance in some unique workloads, but are not currently able to keep up with the raw horsepower of their contemporary x86 servers under similar wattage.

CPU power isn't just "pump more juice into it and it goes faster". there's an upper limit to this. Intel ran into it during the Pentium "Prescott" days.
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Don’t compare other companies’ server arms to Apple. Apple uses their own architecture, microarchitecture, and design. Unique to them. They have a lot of headroom yet.
 
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The only thing I’m concerned about regarding Macs using these is what about the dGPU? Do these chips still support AMD GPUs?

If the benchmarks look that good with no cooling, just imagine what could happen when they throw a fan on it. Maybe macs will have multiple of these like the Mac Pro dual processor? Is that even possible with ARM?
 
csurfr said:
I really think the only thing that keeps MS from tossing VS Code on the iPad would be the lack of terminal. I realize it's written in JavaScript, but they're pretty smart over there, they could easily make it happen. I know Coda is available, but....yeah, not a fan of that... or WebStorm.
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dont have ipad but have samsung tab. At least can run web server and have code editor. The only my dream was bring ipad and wifi to screen or projector . Imac and mac mini for serious work. I don't want anymore laptop for work travel seem keyboard fiasco on apple and myself change 3 laptop keyboard(windows) issue.
 
NoNothing said:
I hope not. Not because ARM can't handle MacOS but simply I don't want to transition yet another painful architecture change. 68K->PPC->iAPX86->ARM? No thank you.
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Those first two changes went swimmingly.

And nobody who designs these things calls it iAPX86. AMD64, x86 or x86-64 will do nicely 😉
 
Although it is impressive, until the iPad iOS gives us the freedom to tap that potential its just pointless.
Its great that Apple demoed AutoCAD & Photoshop but shouldn't they be the first one to port Final Cut X and demo their own products also? If Apple can't use the potential then dev will definitely take ages.
Lead the way, Apple and please, make an iOS version for the iPad Pro device that we can actually use all this power instead of a UI that is just stretched iPhone. 🙂
 
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Essaux said:
Pretty useless stat, since the iPad Pro is still very limited due to its OS. It will open Safari faster, yippekayee.

A MacBook Pro is the complete package, full OS, mouse support, external HDs, displays, it's a work horse. I can see an iPad Pro work well for on the field, check ups, but no proper heavy duty work.
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You're using iPad Pro wrong if you're just opening up Safari faster.
 
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