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New iPad Pro Has Comparable Performance to 2018 15" MacBook Pro in Benchmarks
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Apple has yet to demonstrate any ability to scale their CPU's up to higher power workloads.
We can only look at existing ARM based systems to see that arm too does not have the ability to ignore the laws of physics.
unless you somehow in your infinite wisdom believe Apple is immune to them... which, given how you claim to have been a chip designer yourself, seems like an asinine claim to make.
My complaint about MBP is my iMac has 2TB of disk full and if my MBP has say 256GB then how can I transfer? It tries to migrate the whole 2TB or I have to do things manually good luck with that no? Whereas an iPad seems to do it from iCloud just fine.
A series of benchmark results have shown up on Geekbench for the new iPad Pro, and its new eight-core A12X Bionic chip is truly a powerhouse.
The new iPad Pro achieved single-core and multi-core scores of 5,025 and 18,106 respectively based on an average of two benchmark results, making it by far the fastest iPad ever and comparable even to the performance of the latest 15-inch MacBook Pro models with Intel's six-core Core i7 chips.
We've put together a chart that compares Geekbench scores of the new iPad Pro and various other iPad, Mac, and iPhone models.
That the new iPad Pro rivals the performance of the latest 15-inch MacBook Pro with a 2.6GHz six-core Core i7 processor is impressive, but even more so when you consider that the tablet starts at $799. The aforementioned MacBook Pro configuration is priced at $2,799, although with 512GB of storage.
Even the new 11-inch iPad Pro with 512GB of storage is only $1,149, less than half that of the Core i7-equipped MacBook Pro.
At its special event in Brooklyn on Tuesday, Apple said the new iPad Pro achieves up to 90 percent faster multi-core performance compared to the previous-generation models, and the Geekbench results support that claim. In fact, the new iPad Pro's multi-core score is 94 percent higher than last year's models.
The configured-to-order 15-inch MacBook Pro with a 2.9GHz six-core Core i9 chip is still faster than the new iPad Pro in terms of both single-core and multi-core performance, as is the iMac Pro, but Apple's flagship tablet is quickly becoming one of the fastest products that it sells due to its advanced chip design.
The benchmark results also indicate that the new iPad Pro models have either 4GB or 6GB of RAM depending on the configuration. On Twitter, well-known developer Steve Troughton-Smith said 6GB of RAM is limited to the 1TB configuration, with 4GB of RAM in the 64GB, 256GB, and 512GB configurations.
With the iPad Pro now rivaling some higher-end Macs in performance, there is a compelling case for Apple to start using its own ARM-based A-series chips in some Macs. Apple reportedly plans to do exactly that as early as 2020.
Article Link: New iPad Pro Has Comparable Performance to 2018 15" MacBook Pro in Benchmarks
Apple still sells 18-20M Macs/year at around $25B/yr in revenue. That's more than most entire companies in the S&P500. They aren't getting rid of them.
Last I checked, the Dell runs Windows...a deal breaker for many Apple users. I'm not suggesting the iPad can completely replace a full functioning laptop (hence they still sell both), but I am saying the iPad Pro is a very capable machine, particularly with a keyboard attached.
Another year, another benchmark showing iPads as fast as laptops. All of this means nothing without proper utilization. I love my iPad Pro 10.5 but for getting actual work done at my job as a creative an iPad simply wont cut it. And no , what Adobe showed on stage , while a great start, was nowhere near the full photoshop. Maybe 75 percent.
Those of us who's job it is to make a living using these products cant cobble together some frankenstein workflow to get stuff done. iPad has its place and apple pencil is amazing. But the iPad is a companion device (for creatives) NOT a replacement. And it has no business being priced like a laptop. As a home computer, iPad is amazing and what I use while my iMac sits in the closet. For getting REAL work done that requires a paycheck, only very few can use it in the creative field as anything more than a companion device.
And I'll continue to stress my annoyance with every single product Apple releasing this year going up in price for whatever reason....tariffs? Greed?
Those of us who's job it is to make a living using these products cant cobble together some frankenstein workflow to get stuff done. iPad has its place and apple pencil is amazing. But the iPad is a companion device (for creatives) NOT a replacement. And it has no business being priced like a laptop. As a home computer, iPad is amazing and what I use while my iMac sits in the closet. For getting REAL work done that requires a paycheck, only very few can use it in the creative field as anything more than a companion device.
And I'll continue to stress my annoyance with every single product Apple releasing this year going up in price for whatever reason....tariffs? Greed?
I bet the new Mac Pro will be a hybrid with both Intel and ARM processors and it will be announced at WWDC next year. Apple is not going to make the same mistake to totally redesign it's professional workstation to only announce a switch to a complete different architecture just 2 years later.
What’s interesting is Adobe finally made a program that’s optimized for an apple product. Adobe performance on macOS is crap. When you buy a brand new iMac and get crazy stuttering with CC, something is wrong.
If you are a graphic designer, the iPad is quickly becoming good enough to replace the Mac, especially if you work in illustration. It would be fine in many other fields as well. The big hold outs would be app development, professional 3D modeling and video editing, but the situation is improving all the time.
I remember them testing a G-wagon, (think of this as the MacBook Pro), on TV a while back to see if it was faster off the mark than a hot hatch, (and this can be the iPad).
Now the hot hatch just bested the G-Wagon, but, the G-wagon was pulling the hot hatch on a trailer for the run that it was timed on.
Is this Geekbench report a case of apples to apples or a worthless headline?
Now the hot hatch just bested the G-Wagon, but, the G-wagon was pulling the hot hatch on a trailer for the run that it was timed on.
Is this Geekbench report a case of apples to apples or a worthless headline?
This was my first reaction. Let's see an encode, app build, or any other demanding task that takes longer than ~30 seconds. Macbook Pro as a workhorse is still there (I can't remote desktop, code, manage DBs, run virtual machines, etc on iPad), but knowing my "companion" computer (which I use for wireframing, notes, email... other general tasks) is nearly as fast? I'm interested. After sitting at a MBP all day, it's refreshing to do work on an iPad.
I think the biggest benefit (outside of games, meh) is multitasking, and pro app support (Photoshop, video editing)
It was for me. Not for everyone. Just like not everybody needs a Mac Pro. Same distinction, no more no less.
Well said. I'd love to make my iPadPro my only travel device, but when I'm on the road and if I need to access files and "do business", the iPad is just too cumbersome. Going in and out of apps is just ridiculous after a while. The bare minimum would be a *real* file manager system, and even some sort of "MacOS lite" would help tremendously.
I tried using an iPad for music creation back when the Air 2 was clearly really powerful for a tablet. I had no problems performance wise, but the battery tanks like crazy when doing something heavy. (of course macs do the same) And it got really hot to the touch. Almost unholdable.
But I really just realized a mouse and keyboard suits me better. They need some more interface enhancements before iOS is great for productivity. Something that can replace key commands for power users, and other enhancements.
The difference between macs and iPads hasn’t been about performance for a while.
But I really just realized a mouse and keyboard suits me better. They need some more interface enhancements before iOS is great for productivity. Something that can replace key commands for power users, and other enhancements.
The difference between macs and iPads hasn’t been about performance for a while.
Holy crap. My Core i9 was almost $4,000 USD and gets 5300 single and iPad Pro is at 5020?!? Dang.
iOS truly is holding back this machine. ARM Macs are closer than ever.
iOS truly is holding back this machine. ARM Macs are closer than ever.
As expected it's fun to watch this thread seeing some people feeling threatened and the need to defend the Mac.. I have the 2018 MacBook Pro and I'm really glad that the iPad Pro that I'm going to get is going to rival it in terms of performance at less than half the cost and that I'm able to find good use for both of the machines.
You beat me to it.. this is probably the reason why we haven't seen any Mac Pro updates and the "new" Mac Pro information has been quiet this fall although knowing apple they will be all-in and we won't see a machine with both processors.
If an $800 iPad can do this well, one can only imagine the performance of a Mac Pro, which will be at a much higher price point, active cooling, no screen or battery costs, etc. Apple needs to make a VERY compelling reason why the Mac Pro should exist vs the competition, and maybe this is the reason.
I just discovered CodeSandbox.io which actually has VS Code running in the browser, complete with all of the VS code settings and such. It's pretty slick. That could certainly be a viable option as it integrates directly with github, and you can download all of your project files, etc.
For me, iPad is a transitional enhanced multimedia platform that will be great when it can run Mac OS and have ultra fast wireless connection to any device that you have to use to accomplish your day-to-day work. It will bye like having a powerful desktop computer, small enough to go anywhere, do anything, any time you need.
It will break the shackles of the computer to desk, it will be liberating.
It will be like that movie Her (2013), I now for sure I want to have Scarlett Johansson as my system voice.
It will break the shackles of the computer to desk, it will be liberating.
It will be like that movie Her (2013), I now for sure I want to have Scarlett Johansson as my system voice.
It's nice to see the new iPad Pro performing well.
But ultimately, these benchmark comparisons don't tell much. Why?
For heavy computer work (After effects projects, 3D animation, motion graphics, etc) having dual screen setup with a proper keyboard & a precise mouse is an absolute must. Rendering an animation (hours of heavy load) would either melt a tablet, or the processor would have to throttle down avoiding thermal blow, quadrupling+ the time needed to render, hence, making it barely usefull...
I would like to see Tim Cook try opening up a complex scene in Cinema 4D and rendering it. He would quickly figure out, we are FAR from substituting computers with tablets.
But ultimately, these benchmark comparisons don't tell much. Why?
For heavy computer work (After effects projects, 3D animation, motion graphics, etc) having dual screen setup with a proper keyboard & a precise mouse is an absolute must. Rendering an animation (hours of heavy load) would either melt a tablet, or the processor would have to throttle down avoiding thermal blow, quadrupling+ the time needed to render, hence, making it barely usefull...
I would like to see Tim Cook try opening up a complex scene in Cinema 4D and rendering it. He would quickly figure out, we are FAR from substituting computers with tablets.
Even with a full version of FCPX it's going to be difficult to edit on an mobile OS. With a touch interface your hand is in the way of the screen. And also it's one thing to move your entire forearm and another with moving just your wrist(mouse) or finger(touchpad)
I got LumaFusion and thought I'll be doing a lot of editing on the iPad this year, but I end up going back to my MBA.
The point here isn't that iPads don't support Mac OS, there are clearly two separate markets for laptops and for iPads. The point is that Intel should be scared ******** of a 7nm fab process and custom chips that are already running circles around mobile i7's in efficiency. Intel is struggling to roll out 9th gen chips with production delays, while Apple is forging ahead with their custom silicone. And that's now, who knows what's in the pipeline.
Apple has been laying the groundwork in its OSs for years to switch to their own chips anyways. Given the potential market, most developers will happily port over apps to ARM. Worst case, Apple will find a way to emulate x86 in rare cases.
Apple has been laying the groundwork in its OSs for years to switch to their own chips anyways. Given the potential market, most developers will happily port over apps to ARM. Worst case, Apple will find a way to emulate x86 in rare cases.