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Too bad Samsung Mobile makes tablets and doesn't make retina displays then.

There is no such company as "Samsung Mobile". There company is called "Samsung Electronics" and Samsung Mobile is just one of its divisions (you would not call Apple's division in charge of mobile devices a separate company, would you?). Samsung Electronics is in the process of spinning out the division that manufactures LCD panels but the new company will still be 100% owned by Samsung Electronics.
 
I think you're mistaking my discussion on here as passionate. I could ultimately give a rats behind. I just find hyperbole silly as a means to discuss anything. Billions of posters in this thread have never used an Android tablet and the 6 trillion things it can do better than an iPad. See? ;)

Trillions of things better? I would love to see that list. And yes I have used a Android tablet.
 
Ok. that could be considered 1. One thing. Can you name another 3? or 2? Conversely - Android tablets can do things the iPad can't do. How about starting with providing the option to extend storage via memory cards?

You mean like iCloud. There you now have extended your storage on the iPad.
 
Maybe you missed the point:

There are 200,000 iPad Apps that NO ANDROID TABLET CAN RUN. Maybe, at some point in the future, developers will release Android-tablet optimized versions of them. But, as of this particular Tuesday morning, they haven't.

I'll try and explain this again. "Things XX can't do" is different than "software it can't run"

Just because an Android tablet can't run pages doesn't mean it CAN'T do word processing.

Just because an Android tablet can't run one app doesn't mean it CAN'T run other apps that do the same thing.

Are you going to now tell me that Windows PC's can't do video editing because they don't have FCP? Or that they can't do word processing because they don't have pages.

So there's one thing here. Android Tablets can't run iOS apps. Very true.
 
I totally agree. We may be a decade away from total tablet adoption. Certainly weight and price need to come down. Functionality needs to increase as well as ease of use. Siri is on top of the ease of use stuff (i.e., non-spoken interaction with a computer will someday be the exception).
I dread the day when people will use the "But I'm talking to my computer!" excuse when told to **** when in a library.

iPad 3 is pretty darn useful, but its ability to interact with the rest of the world is still limited to internet and a handful of internet appliances.
For that precise reason I don't find the iPad to be more than just an expensive toy. A fun one, but still, a toy.
 
Lots? I guess living in a relatively poor city isn't necessarily representative of a country as a whole, but I have yet to see much people actively using iPads where they could, i.e. in coffee shops, libraries, metro, bus. I guess such settings are simply too dangerous for the device's integrity.

I sometimes go to coffee shops and libraries in moderately wealthy neighborhoods in Silicon Valley and don't see many iPads either. Maybe people don't like to take their iPads out in these public spaces? (Or maybe they're already using their MacBooks and iPhones.)

But then I had to do some International travel, and I saw a silly amount of iPads in use in multiple airports and during mid-flight. Businessmen in suits, kids, families, little old ladies, people speaking lots of different languages... all with iPads. A few Kindles, but lots more iPads.

So you might just need to look somewhere else.
 
I dread the day when people will use the "But I'm talking to my computer!" excuse when told to **** when in a library.

For that precise reason I don't find the iPad to be more than just an expensive toy. A fun one, but still, a toy.
All depends on how you are using it. I use mine for a myriad of medical applications, including diagnostic imaging, charting, reference, calculation of due dates and body mass indices, conversion of weights to and from metric units and billing. My kids use it to watch movies on long trips. My wife records dance choreography on it and is able to replay that video instantly for review. And I use it as an internet browser, an email manager and an ebook. Its form factor make it ideal for use in my clinic, at the hospital, on an airplane or at the dance studio, and due to its apps and form factor, it does things that I could not do with any desktop, laptop or phone.
 
(Or maybe they're already using their MacBooks and iPhones.)

But then I had to do some International travel, and I saw a silly amount of iPads in use in multiple airports and during mid-flight. Businessmen in suits, kids, families, little old ladies, people speaking lots of different languages... all with iPads. A few Kindles, but lots more iPads.

So you might just need to look somewhere else.
Precisely. The iPad doesn't fit the "handheld", mobile usage (too large) the iPhone or iPod Touch fits very well, and may be considered insufficient for seated use (too small).

On the other hand, where one is expected to remain seated but has to do with cramped space, the iPad is an ideal match.

But an airport can't be considered a common setting, so where should I look to find iPads in use?

All depends on how you are using it. I use mine for a myriad of medical applications, including diagnostic imaging, charting, reference, calculation of due dates and body mass indices, conversion of weights to and from metric units and billing. My kids use it to watch movies on long trips. My wife records dance choreography on it and is able to replay that video instantly for review. And I use it as an internet browser, an email manager and an ebook. Its form factor make it ideal for use in my clinic, at the hospital, on an airplane or at the dance studio, and due to its apps and form factor, it does things that I could not do with any desktop, laptop or phone.
That's one setting the iPad indeed was touted for. A clinic, a dance studio, a car, an airplane cockpit all of these are controlled places where an iPad is unlikely to be snatched from your hands and where you don't need to be highly mobile.

Alas, for the medical setting, I found rather disappointing that, considering the device considerable computing power, that no one yet cared to build attachments to replace expensive medical monitoring machines in poverty-stricken fields. It's still limited to a reference, or offline monitoring device.
 
Please go back and actually read the thread and previous exchanges of mine. It's clear you haven't.

I did read your thread exchange. But then you went on about a trillions things this and billions users that. For some one who does not care you sure do go on and on. And then telling others they need to come up with number of things the iPad can do that an Android tablet can't. Yea, you sure don't give a rats ass.
 
@lilo777 et al, you are either ignoring what other people are saying or you are paid to post here and cause trouble.

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I'm sorry if these large numbers are causing you emotional distress but I suggest that you either find another job posting elsewhere or learn to separate your personality from the android devices that you appear to love/worship.

LOL! Lilo777 does provide some really good comic relief.
 
It's pretty standard to count pre-orders like that, isn't it?

The "...in X days..." bit is always counted from the day the item begins shipping/is stocked in stores, rather than from the day the company starts accepting pre-orders.

Considering the iPads shipped out early last week then it's still not 4 days ;)

I just find it ridiculous to boldly claim 4 days! when it in fact took like 10 or so seeing when they started taking orders and shipping them out.
 
I did read your thread exchange. But then you went on about a trillions things this and billions users that. For some one who does not care you sure do go on and on. And then telling others they need to come up with number of things the iPad can do that an Android tablet can't. Yea, you sure don't give a rats ass.

You might have read the thread - but you must not have understood my post because I was clearly being sarcastic and speaking in hyperbole to illustrate my point.

And I don't give a rat's behind which one is better or what one can do over the other. Everyone can pick the device that works best for them.
 
But an airport can't be considered a common setting, so where should I look to find iPads in use?

My guess? Places you can't look because they are in private homes: couches, easy chairs, beds, backyard hammocks and balcony lawn chairs, etc. Or in offices, at business meetings where not everyone has a seat at a table.

For the people who feel the need to flash in public what they feel is a status symbol device (there is strong evidence that this is a strong motive in some subcultures), the iPhone 4/4S currently seems to be the far far more popular portable luxury item in some regions.
 
My guess? Places you can't look because they are in private homes: couches, easy chairs, beds, backyard hammocks and balcony lawn chairs, etc. Or in offices, at business meetings where not everyone has a seat at a table.

For the people who feel the need to flash in public what they feel is a status symbol device (there is strong evidence that this is a strong motive in some subcultures), the iPhone 4/4S currently seems to be the far far more popular portable luxury item in some regions.
In both cases, people may be buying it first and foremost for the supposedly high-status it conveys, even to themselves: the home is an environment where one is unlikely to be seen by many people, and where having a highly transportable device isn't necessary.

As for the iPhone 4(S), it's not even considered luxury anymore here. That's a paradox in a poor city, but each and every hipster and ordinary people alike seem to find their way to an iPhone 4(S). Heck, stolen ones go for $50 a piece.
 
Trillions of things better? I would love to see that list. And yes I have used a Android tablet.

You mean like iCloud. There you now have extended your storage on the iPad.

I did read your thread exchange. But then you went on about a trillions things this and billions users that. For some one who does not care you sure do go on and on. And then telling others they need to come up with number of things the iPad can do that an Android tablet can't. Yea, you sure don't give a rats ass.

The ability for all apps on android to be able to download or process in the background

the ability to download file from the internet browser and fine those files via a file explorer

the ability to attach a picture, document or other files from the email app

the ability download multiple apps from the android market(google play) and not get bounced out of the store for each one

the ability to post a picture using any app that has the ability to upload(unlike a select few for iOS)

the ability to know what each app is accessing on my device before I download them
 
The ability for all apps on android to be able to download or process in the background

the ability to download file from the internet browser and fine those files via a file explorer

the ability to attach a picture, document or other files from the email app

the ability download multiple apps from the android market(google play) and not get bounced out of the store for each one

the ability to post a picture using any app that has the ability to upload(unlike a select few for iOS)

the ability to know what each app is accessing on my device before I download them

And what are the other 999,999,999,997 things that Android is suppose to be able to do that iOS can't because there are suppose to be a trillion things :rolleyes:
 
And what are the other 999,999,999,997 things that Android is suppose to be able to do that iOS can't because there are suppose to be a trillion things :rolleyes:

I think samcraig was using "hyperbole" to laugh in the face of the "hyperbole that is expressed in the thread :rolleyes:
 
Lots? I guess living in a relatively poor city isn't necessarily representative of a country as a whole, but I have yet to see much people actively using iPads where they could, i.e. in coffee shops, libraries, metro, bus. I guess such settings are simply too dangerous for the device's integrity.

Here in New York they are very common on the subway. Really, iPads aren't that expensive in terms of steal-worthy items. Total up the value of everything you have in your bag, it may well come out to the value of an iPad. If you carry a good handbag, a decent coat, or a wedding ring, you're wearing much more money than an iPad.


In both cases, people may be buying it first and foremost for the supposedly high-status it conveys, even to themselves: the home is an environment where one is unlikely to be seen by many people, and where having a highly transportable device isn't necessary.

As for the iPhone 4(S), it's not even considered luxury anymore here. That's a paradox in a poor city, but each and every hipster and ordinary people alike seem to find their way to an iPhone 4(S). Heck, stolen ones go for $50 a piece.

Again, I am not sure anyone thinks of the iPad as conveying high status. In cost it's comparable to an expensive cell phone or a lower-end coach bag, but
neither of those items really imply status. Status is much more expensive than $500. Even in a relatively poor city.
 
Here in New York they are very common on the subway. Really, iPads aren't that expensive in terms of steal-worthy items. Total up the value of everything you have in your bag, it may well come out to the value of an iPad. If you carry a good handbag, a decent coat, or a wedding ring, you're wearing much more money than an iPad.
It's more difficult and risky to snatch a bag from someone than an iPhone or iPad. That's why gadget theft is so prevalent here.

Again, I am not sure anyone thinks of the iPad as conveying high status. In cost it's comparable to an expensive cell phone or a lower-end coach bag, but
neither of those items really imply status. Status is much more expensive than $500. Even in a relatively poor city.
No cell phone commonly sells for more than $200 on contract and locked, and that's really a worst-case scenario. So well, even a basic iPad is worth twice that sum, it's tempting. Obviously when cost of living is so high such as in NYC, one may not see a status to be bought by a week's worth of rent.
 
It's more difficult and risky to snatch a bag from someone than an iPhone or iPad. That's why gadget theft is so prevalent here.

I don't know where you live, but grabbing anything out of your hands on the subway and then trying to run away is a very foolish way to try and steal something. Does that ever happen? I've never heard of such a thing. Pick pocketing, mugging, stick-up, all of those I've heard of. But grab and run? No. So basically I disagree that "It's more difficult and risky to snatch a bag from someone than an iPhone or iPad." Where are you?


No cell phone commonly sells for more than $200 on contract and locked, and that's really a worst-case scenario. So well, even a basic iPad is worth twice that sum, it's tempting. Obviously when cost of living is so high such as in NYC, one may not see a status to be bought by a week's worth of rent.

Hmmm... you might be right about cell phones. A few years ago (the last time I cared) there were various special edition phones that cost into the seven or eight hundred dollar range. And in Japan it was pretty common to pay that much for a phone. But I might be out-of-date for recent trends.

But my basic point holds. iPads just aren't expensive enough to be considered status items. iPads are mass consumer items. Luxury items are far more expensive. That doesn't make iPads cheap, but they're simply not expensive enough to demonstrate to anyone that you're wealthy--which is what a status item does.
 
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