New iPadOS 16.1 Beta Expands Stage Manager to Older iPad Pro Models, Delays External Display Support

[WilliApple]

Now make it A12 iPads and newer please. Then I will be satisfied.

There is no excuse that the 2017 MacBook Regular can handle Stage manager but the 2021 iPad mini can't.

Edit: if every iPad can do split screen 2 apps, slideover, and quick none simultaneously, shouldn't Stage Manager be supported on all iPads?

 

[jonnyb098]

So listening to consumer feedback and improving their product is a bad thing? Weird take.

It’s not a weird take.l.it’s an accurate one. The apple of lately does this. The Apple Watch was a great example. They had NO IDEA how to market it. Indeed under prior leadership apple made more iconic things that told a story and convinced people I GOTTA HAVE THIS. That doesn’t happen anymore. It’s ….here’s are latest phone that can piss farther than the other guys.

 

[Seanm87]

Wow thats a pleasant surprise. Hope no one went out and bought an m1 iPad and wasted money for this feature.

 

[Marswarrior462]

As for the external display issue, there aren’t really any good enough external displays for me. I want a display with 100% DCI-P3 colour gamut, 4K or higher, HDR, and either OLED or mini-LED (preferably OLED), and 120Hz or higher refresh rate in order for it to be a good enough monitor for me, and if they did exist, they’d probably be too expensive (maybe almost Pro Display XDR type) for me anyways. So I am happy with my current 2020 iPad Pro now.

 

[Piplodocus]

🥳

Hope they can sort the external display stuff for older iPads too. That's been one of my main complains since getting my A12Z (moreso than I want stage manager)

 

[turbineseaplane]

Just scrap it altogether and put Stage Manager back in the internal development cycle and keep working on it.

Maybe in a couple years it will be a good idea to see where it's at

 

[wanha]

So the whole “older iPad Pros can’t handle stage manager” was just BS from apple?

Federighi said the experience wasn't up to their standard on older iPads, not that it couldn't be done.

And now that Apple listened to all you complainers, this is your reaction?

Man, you just can't win with some people.

 

[kingspointer]

Removing the external monitor functionality just to support older Ipads kinda defeats its purpose. What's the point if you cant use an exernal monitor.

 

[azentropy]

So the whole “older iPad Pros can’t handle stage manager” was just BS from apple?

Sorta. It doesn't support external displays with scaling which is hardware dependent.

 

[mystery hill]

Wow thats a pleasant surprise. Hope no one went out and bought an m1 iPad and wasted money for this feature.

You still need an M1 for external display support, according to Engadget.

 

[CarAnalogy]

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Seriously good move, Apple. I never cared about external display support but was mildly annoyed SM wouldn’t be available at all on my 2020 IPP.

Now expand dynamic island to iPhone 13.

 

[contacos]

Isn’t the iPad Air 4 more powerful than those iPad Pro? Wtf Apple

 

[George Dawes]

An early Xmas present

Thx Apple

 

[GizmoDVD]

Thanks for saving me over $3000-4500. I might wait now until the OLED iPad Pros to upgrade

Were you going to buy several iPads?

 

[CarAnalogy]

Yep, it's been a lie all along, and some of us knew it. But so many people here kept defending Apple: "You're not an Apple engineer. Apple knows better. Apple cares about user experience." Blah blah blah. 🤪

To be fair, Apple never separated external display support as a feature until now. I said from the start that maybe they were right about the performance with an external display, but wrong to make that a requirement.

They’ve done the right thing here by separating them.

 

[Marswarrior462]

Were you going to buy several iPads?

No I live in Canada so it’s more expensive. Plus when I do upgrade, I’m going to get the 2TB with Cellular because I’ve always wanted a cellular iPad and my 512GB iPad Pro is getting a little full

 

[CarAnalogy]

Glad they are supporting older devices, but my Air 4 with a newer A14 and the same 4GB RAM doesn't make the cut I guess? Whack.

Might also be more about display size. I don’t think the feature would work well on anything smaller than 11”.

Also the Pros have upgraded video hardware.

 

[calstanford]

Now more people can try out this ill conceived mess of a product before giving up and never using it again.

 

[ConfusedChris]

Hopefully the 2018 Pros with 6GB RAM will handle this well.

 

[JPack]

Make sense.

There was absolutely no excuse why A12Z could run a full version of macOS but somehow fail to run iPadOS.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

Ope. You got some egg on your face there, Tim.

 

[wanha]

When did this place become the Apple haters forum?

 

[kiensoy]

Implementation of Stage Manager hasn't been well received so I guess they want as many iPads as possible to use the feature so it gets widely adopted and devs decide to update their apps to be fully compatible with it.

 

[adamlbiscuit]

It seems like they've separated external monitor support and Stage Manager into two separate entities, meaning Stage Manager can now work on older iPads but future external monitor support will still be M1 only, presumably because of RAM & (mainly) I/O limitations.

Before, I think they envisioned Stage Manager and external monitor support as being one and the same, and you couldn't have one without the other, thus fencing it into M1 exclusivity.

The above could be a load of bull of course (especially because the older iPad Air and iPad mini still don't support it and their chips are generations newer), but this is just me trying to apply some logic to this about-turn on Stage Manager not being able to work on older iPads.

 

[Marswarrior462]

Might also be more about display size. I don’t think the feature would work well on anything smaller than 11”.

Also the Pros have upgraded video hardware.

But the iPad Air 5 supports it