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Um, and how would apps written to fit the current screen size work on smaller and larger screens?
 
Because now Android with a range of sizes is eating iPhone sales.

Go into a Best Buy and look at all the Androids with larger screens, and some with smaller screens and lower prices. Apple needs to compete with that...

I disagree. Apple doesn't need to compete with that at all. Android is not taking iPhone sales as long as Apple is selling them as fast as they can make them. In fact, the smaller droids are too small and the larger droids are too large. Size is always a compromise and the iPhone is an example of the perfect compromise. Not too small - and not too big - but just right. It works for the vast majority and they don't need other sizes. And for those of you talking about a nano size iPhone - it wouldn't be an iPhone. There are just too many things you would not be able to do. I have had tiny phones and the compromise on usability is not worth it. On the other hand, any larger and the iPhone would just be a small iPad. Too large to carry in your pocket, but not as big as the iPad. Maybe a good thought for a pad, but not for a phone. Most people need to put their phone in a multitude of pockets and jeans pockets are just right for the current iPhone. If it was even a fraction bigger it would be uncomfortable. The devices this guy is hearing rumors about could be a smaller iPad to compete with the new 7inch pads and a smaller ipod between the touch and the nano, which borders on being too small. They eventually need a new ipod form factor to replace the classic. That should already be in the works. Lot's of storage with not so much screen as a touch so you can put your money into storage instead of screen. He's just guessing they are phones.
 
Not The Same Thing

So the iPod Nano and Shuffle are failures in the same context?

The iPod line relied on the music library of the owner and the usage options. The iPhone is a smart phone. It's main usage is constant. The iPod had varied usage depending on model. iPos shuffle extreme portability for sports and style for women, iPod nano for the casual user who wanted more features and for those with active lifestyles and the iPod classic for the owners of large music libraries and wanted portable video as well as the power user who accessed the device as a portable hard drive.
 
Um, and how would apps written to fit the current screen size work on smaller and larger screens?

If the resolution stays the same, and it probably will, then no big deal. Even if it changes, most apps dynamically lay out their user interface and will just work. Apps already need to deal with 2 resolutions (3 if you count iPad).

The user interface guidelines for web apps recommends using the system screen size variables instead of hard coding numbers, so most web apps should just work.

A lot depends on the app, but really it shouldn't be a big deal for most apps. It would be trickier if they were pushing a micro screen format like the new Nano.
 
i dont know if it was posted yet but god please put out an iphone with a physical keyboard.

iphone-pro-large.jpg


i miss my tilt and the ability to see everything i type in text.
 
Not that I don't think this rumor is unfounded, but I could imagine a really tiny iPhone nano using the screen, CPU, and OS of the new iPod nano (i.e., no web, camera or apps), especially if it was cheap even with no contract and you could transfer the SIM card from your iPhone and use it as an alternate phone for sports or for girls going out etc. Text entry would be cumbersome, but if you could edit your address book from a PC when syncing, it wouldn't matter as much.

If the iPod Nano is $149 now, perhaps in a year the same parts plus a cell radio could be sold for $149 with no contract, or really cheap ($49 or less) with a contract. I could imagine at that price, parents could buy it for their kids, but due to the limitations it wouldn't cannibalize iPhone sales. It also might serve as a way to enter emerging markets.
 
i dont know if it was posted yet but god please put out an iphone with a physical keyboard.

IMHO, adding a physical keyboard will most likely add thickness to the iPhone device & that goes against what Apple are doing. I could be wrong but it seems that one of Apple's main design focus has been to get thinner & thinner with each new revision of the product line. Therefore, I think that Apple will "unfortunately" not be adding a physical keyboard to the iPhone design anytime in the near future. :eek:
 
I would love some sort of flip/clamshell design. I've always hated the single flat slate phone design. I want a phone first not a PDA.
 
No way in hell. They've already asked their developers to change app resolutions once. 3 screen sizes will never fly with developers.

99.999% likelihood of this being total nonsense.
iPhone 4 dot pitch with iPhone 3G(s) resolution = smaller display and no new resolution for the devs to care about.
 
Could be true!!!

Apple needs to do something about his supplies of iPhone 4 ... still in a lot of markets waiting time for an iPhone 4 is 3 or more weeks! Supplier can't keep up. It would be very logical to cut share of the iPhone 4 sales.

There are some rumours that Apple bought out whole stock of AMOLED displays from Samsung? What for???

look at twitter post from Eldar Murtazin who has incredible valuable information before hand - http://i.idnes.cz/10/101/gal/ADA363fce_eldarmurtazin_twitter.jpg
 
I would love to see Apple open up with an entire line of IOS devices. They keep comparing the iPhone with Android despite there being numerous devices from different manufacturers. Having an exclusive product that only a few could was ok when there was no competition. Now, with there being so many cool phones like the EVo and othere, Apple needs ot step the game up.

Offer a Evo sized HD iPhone. The Evo screen even though it is inferior in resolution is nice. Using the map program on it is rnjoyaboe and you do not have to zoom like you do on the iPhone.

Have a iphone Nano that is $100 with a smaller screen if it is possible to still run the apps etc.

Sell the thing on all carriers and give Android a run for its money. i think if a Verizon or Sprint customer had a choice between an iPhone and a Galaxy, they would choose an iPhone.
 
I disagree. Apple doesn't need to compete with that at all. Android is not taking iPhone sales as long as Apple is selling them as fast as they can make them. In fact, the smaller droids are too small and the larger droids are too large..

The whole idea of business is to sell. Why not try to outsell and take business from other companies? Android is taking sales away from Apple because they are selling a competing product.
 
iPhone 4 dot pitch with iPhone 3G(s) resolution = smaller display and no new resolution for the devs to care about.

that would be extremely difficult to type on.

Assuming you were saying keeping the same retina dpi from the ip4 but with a 3G resolution, that would make the screen the size of 1/4 of the screen we have now.

Revive T9 texting ftw? lol
 
Why not just add phone capabilities to the iPad? Call it the Mega-Pad? Or the Maxi-Pad?

Making more than one size phone for sale at the same time makes no sense. The only way that it would make sense is if the iPhone wasn't selling very well and Apple needed to 'pander to the masses' to build market share of they figured out a way to have a 'clam shell' design and maintain the operability of the interface.

The problem with multiple sizes is that the cases would be numerous and retailers wouldn't want to carry them and the chances that a very small iPhone would use the same accessories (chargers, etc) is small...

I think that Apple would be crazy to dilute their market by adding smaller and naturally less capable units. I already think that the new Nano will fail because it's 'sorta like a Touch, but not quite'.
 
IMHO, adding a physical keyboard will most likely add thickness to the iPhone device & that goes against what Apple are doing. I could be wrong but it seems that one of Apple's main design focus has been to get thinner & thinner with each new revision of the product line. Therefore, I think that Apple will "unfortunately" not be adding a physical keyboard to the iPhone design anytime in the near future. :eek:

Then they need to add the ability to use a bluetooth external keyboard. It might be cludgy but it could open a whole new type of accessory. Clip-on keyboards. How about a case with a flip top that has a keyboard in it...
 
i dont know if it was posted yet but god please put out an iphone with a physical keyboard.

iphone-pro-large.jpg


i miss my tilt and the ability to see everything i type in text.


AT&T Tilt was amazing, I loved the phone and best keyboard ever.

I so hope they bring out an iPhone like!!!
 
i dont know if it was posted yet but god please put out an iphone with a physical keyboard.

iphone-pro-large.jpg

Apple would benefit greatly by offering this form factor, in addition to its current model. Exactly what BlackBerry users rely on, the response would be fantastic.

That said, sadly Apple seems to have a true death grip on its narrow minded position of restricting the iPhone to one model only.
 
iPhone form factors

I like the iPhone 4 form factor. I am tempted to get one. But with early controversy about the antenna problems and the prone problems of delicate glass, I would not mind a new form factor that could help improve future iPhones.
 
I think the iPhone 4's screen is too small and has not increased in size physically since the original iphone launch almost 4 years ago. It's time for a screen size increase, either equivalent to or slightly smaller than HTC's 4.3" behemoth. Apple should go S-Amoled with IPS or OLED which requires no backlight and therefore extends battery life.
 
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