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New iPhone SE Could Launch in May With Touch ID and A10 Fusion, Without 3.5mm Headphone Jack

HVDynamo said:
That aren't compatible with any other device I own either. I don't get why people have such a hatred for the headphone jack, if you don't use it, great. But a lot of people still do and the dongle is a ****** solution to a problem that didn't need to exist.
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The ONLY complaint I have with the Lightning headphone jack is this absolute lack of compatibility with other devices. That is to say, there's not a single adapter or dongle I can buy that lets me use one set of Lightning headphones with every device I might want to plug it into.

And that's been my beef with Apple since this started. They sell Lightning headphones which can't be used with anything else but recent iPhones and iPads. And even with Lightning compatible devices, they haven't replaced the 3.5mm jack entirely for some common practices: There's no way to plug two Lightning headphone jacks into an iDevice to share the audio; there's a splitter for listening and charging, but not a simple Y-adapter for audio. Wireless headphones can't share audio either -- AirPlay 2 may change that, but it's been a long wait.

I'm not talking about anything exotic here -- basic, common uses for headphones that have been around for decades. The idea that I have to go wireless in order to have one set of headphones for all of my Apple products is kind of ridiculous, much less anything else. And wireless requires dongles to use with any device that doesn't support Bluetooth -- but at least I do have that option. Otherwise, if I only want to carry one set of headphones for any device I encounter, it's a 3.5mm wired pair. And that flies in the face of everything for which Apple claims they removed the 3.5mm jack.

They can take away the 3.5mm headphone jack, but don't make the alternative wireless only. If I have to buy an adapter, so be it -- but at least give me the adapter. The problem for me, is that they took the 3.5mm headphone jack away before they had a full replacement ready. As it stands we have a half-baked solution that requires multiple wired variations and wireless in order to compatible within Apple's own ecosystem.
 
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Relentless Power said:
There are plenty of individuals who appreciate the iPhone SE and form factor. It also goes to show you How well the iPhone SE has aged fairly well. Not to mention, this rumor doesn’t “Prove” anything, because we don’t know the validity behind it. Also, why do you have to bring Steve Jobs into the equation? Completely irrelevant to the topic and you can’t speak for him directly.
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I thought the ability to speak for Steve Jobs posthumously was a requirement for being a member on this site? ;)
 
SSDGUY said:
I thought the ability to speak for Steve Jobs posthumously was a requirement for being a member on this site? ;)
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Not really. Only some of us "know" how likely Steve would have liked or disliked something, particularly things leaning a bit too strongly to one side of "fashion/form over function" and "function first, form be damned." :)

I do know though, Steve would not like iTunes 12 and after, as well as the iOS 11 podcast app, nor removing MagSafe. This I do know for a fact. :) Unsure what he'd think about the headphone jack.
 
Baymowe335 said:
Um, because you can tap the button and it doesn't need to be unlocked?
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That's not how it worked on my brother's iPhone X or even on my iPhone with Touch ID. There maybe is a setting to do what you describe but in my experience turning off the alarm requires entering passcode/Touch ID/Face ID.
I guarantee I've traveled internationally more than you, btw...so it's not like I have a small world view.
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You're a commercial pilot flying international routes exclusively? Not sure how you can assume how many countries I've lived in or traveled to just by looking at a couple of posts on an Internet forum.
And your ethnocentric comment below tells me that "traveling internationally" didn't teach you much.
I just understand the issues with FaceID not working for some people is not a a deal breaker because the advantages will outweigh any negatives. Those people probably aren't in the market for a $1000 phone.
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Hundred of millions of people is not just "some people." And contrary to popular opinion, just because they live in a different country and may have different religious beliefs than you do, doesn't mean they can't afford a $1000 gadget.
Around 60-70% of all iPhones sold annually are sold outside of the US market.
The only "advantage" to Face ID was as a cheap workaround for Apple. It's slower, less accurate, its fail rate is much higher and it just won't work for millions of people.
 
a0me said:
That's not how it worked on my brother's iPhone X or even on my iPhone with Touch ID. There maybe is a setting to do what you describe but in my experience turning off the alarm requires entering passcode/Touch ID/Face ID.

You're a commercial pilot flying international routes exclusively? Not sure how you can assume how many countries I've lived in or traveled to just by looking at a couple of posts on an Internet forum.
And your ethnocentric comment below tells me that "traveling internationally" didn't teach you much.

Hundred of millions of people is not just "some people." And contrary to popular opinion, just because they live in a different country and may have different religious beliefs than you do, doesn't mean they can't afford a $1000 gadget.
Around 60-70% of all iPhones sold annually are sold outside of the US market.
The only "advantage" to Face ID was as a cheap workaround for Apple. It's slower, less accurate, its fail rate is much higher and it just won't work for millions of people.
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You’re wrong about the alarm, period.

Apple understands their market better than you and made the FaceID decision.

It was cheeky and irrelevant, yes, but I stand by my international experience.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
You’re wrong about the alarm, period.
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Wrong. There's probably settings to bypass passcode/Touch ID/Face ID to turn the alarm off but I've been using the iPhone alarm for years and it won't turn off by simply taping the screen.
Apple understands their market better than you and made the FaceID decision.
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Android is running billions of devices, many times more than iOS but that doesn't necessarily make them better.
Just like Apple choosing to go with Face ID doesn't have anything to it being better than Touch ID. Which is both my point and something factually proven.
 
a0me said:
Wrong. There's probably settings to bypass passcode/Touch ID/Face ID to turn the alarm off but I've been using the iPhone alarm for years and it won't turn off by simply taping the screen.

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He’s really not wrong... I can find no settings for this, by default every iPhone I’ve had lets you stop the alarm by tapping. Here’s a screenshot - tap stop and it stops.

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a0me said:
That's not how it worked on my brother's iPhone X or even on my iPhone with Touch ID. There maybe is a setting to do what you describe but in my experience turning off the alarm requires entering passcode/Touch ID/Face ID.
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Wow, what on earth are you babbling about? Neither the old home/Touch ID button nor the Face ID is required to turn the alarm off! You are the rare, one-of-a-kind brainiac who possibly has the one iPhone with such features, or, have never used the alarm in the iPhone.

Apple has a touch-screen that is vital for almost all its functions, including the setting alarm and turning it off.

By your own admission, you don't have hands on experience with an iPhone X, so why are you giving your opinion about any feature on that phone, especially the Face ID? Your brother's second hand opinion ... is NOT your experience.
 
KPandian1 said:
By your own admission, you don't have hands on experience with an iPhone X, so why are you giving your opinion about any feature on that phone, especially the Face ID? Your brother's second hand opinion ... is NOT your experience.
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So you're saying that Face ID works even when you're wearing a surgical / hay fever mask / religious clothing covering your face and that it can tell twins and siblings apart?
Because this is the problem I have with Face ID while you guys are having a fit about how I'm using the alarm wrong.
 
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So you're saying that Face ID works even when you're wearing a surgical / hay fever mask / religious clothing covering your face and that it can tell twins and siblings apart?
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a0me said:
... the problem I have with Face ID while you guys are having a fit about how I'm using the alarm wrong.
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Read my post again, it is in legible script and comprehensible (understandable) English! I have highlighted all the topics I did not address in the post to which you replied.

You are having a fit, having lied about EVER using the alarm function in an iPhone, any iPhone, any smartphone.

Get your hands on any smartphone with Facial ID (clue needed?) and then talk. Anyone who has such a phone knows to remove the barrier they wear over the face for whatever reason before attempting to use this feature. They do know how Facial ID works ... show your face to the bloody phone.
 
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MacRumors said:



Apple will release an updated iPhone SE in May, according to case makers who spoke with Japanese website Mac Otakara at the Global Sources Mobile Electronics trade show in Hong Kong this week.
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I know the likelihood of the May release date rumor is unlikely, but I really wish it were true. Or at least June! I have been using a OnePlus3 for about 3 years and while it's a good phone, I've been really impressed with the iPhone 5s we test websites with at work. I'd love to use a nice, small phone again. Something a little more stable and secure, too!

There will be things I will miss from Android, like Android Auto, notifications, and customization...but I think I'm ready to trade them for a more ergonomic experience.
 
I was just thinking that I would settle for a plastic SE, if it came in a similar but smaller design as the iPhone X.

At this point, is anyone interested in the SE care if it's made out of metal or not? I don't.
 
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tresmith said:
I was just thinking that I would settle for a plastic SE, if it came in a similar but smaller design as the iPhone X.

At this point, is anyone interested in the SE care if it's made out of metal or not? I don't.
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I’d take plastic in a heart beat a la 3G and 3Gs style.
 
rafark said:
No 3.5mm headphone Jack, unlikely. The SE is a cheap phone *mainly* for poorer countries. Wireless earphones are still relatively expensive.
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I hope it has one. It's the only way I can connect to my car speakers.
 
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of all iPhones so far I like the SE (5s whatever that same chassis) design the best and size is perfect; thus two times I bought bigger iPhones 6s and now 7 (had SE for 2 years and se 2 wasn't coming out so bought iPhone X which I didn't like at all and returned it two days later and decided to buy 7 as 8 didn't do anything for me special) now with this phone it is too big with one handed use and I have pretty big hands it take too much space in my pocket and I hate feeling something in my pocket (SE was like its not there) and most important is form factor of SE i sth best; for sure when apple comes out with SE 2 I'm trading in this 7 i have now the first day I can for smaller phone. For comfy reading I have this new iPad 9.7 that came out; I have to go back to smaller phone badly this is just so annoying carrying a brick in pocket and some people carry those bigger bricks too my god
 
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cdpage said:
Still Apples Best looking product.

update that look with more screen real-estate, make 2 sizes, and keep a flat back (no camera bump) and you have the best looking phone out there.
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It’s definitely the best looking iPhone of all time. Followed by the iPhone X imo.
 
An SE sequel must have the exact same form factor and camera placement (so that cases from the iPhone 5 still fit). Having an X-series screen, Face ID, and internals would be perks.
 
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