'New' iPhone SE Product Listing Appears on French Website

[UliBaer]

Sorry, but the site is a 404 for me:

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La page que vous recherchez est introuvable.

 

[Channan]

Ok. But in my experience people usually would say by the end of next week to be clear. Anyway, variety is the spice of life

Adding “the end of” in the middle just adds extra words that mean the same thing so aren’t really needed, which is very similar to your “change” example. 😉

But yes, both of those ways are correct and would include any time this week and next week, but not any time after.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

I think what Gurman meant to say was “by the end of next week” which means it could arrive this week or next week.

Perhaps it was by "around the end of next week," which could cover this week, next week and several weeks thereafter. If the prognostication business, abundant leeway offers the ability to claim "right."

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

All I need to know at this point, to consider upgrading my 2020 SE is who much is it going to cost. Apple really screwed the pooch when they priced the VisionPro at $3,499. It would have been better for sales if they'd dropped some features and sold it for $1,999. It's too late for this new SE, since it's already in production, but Apple should heed that advice going forward. SE buyers don't want to pay for features they don't need, and probably won't ever use.

To get to $1999 retail, the features Apple would have had to drop are the "Vision" portion of it: 4K per eye. Once they step down to this "cheaper" one people seek by basically matching up features to what is already out there, the new broad complaint will be "blurry." And then much cheaper options from others will make even more sense because the key differentiation that directly feeds into the name "Vision" will be no better than the $200-$500 options.

There isn't $1500 in the "eyes" screen on the front, speakers, etc. But dump the 4K per eye and they can probably get there.

 

[fredn]

Oups 404

 

[rs0212]

Because “by next week” could mean this week OR next week. As long as it happens any time before the week after next, it is by next week.

By means before, which would mean it has to be this week. Unless they said "by the end of next week."

 

[Expos of 1969]

By means before, which would mean it has to be this week. Unless they said "by the end of next week."

Thank you. I am not the only one who thinks that is the correct meaning. No matter what Mariam Webster dictionary may say, common usage in society has equal or greater weight.

 

[aohus]

this phone will be a hot seller for the "i dont care which phone i have" crowd

 

[GIZBUG]

So much anticipation and excitement for a budget phone 😝😝

 

[Channan]

By means before, which would mean it has to be this week. Unless they said "by the end of next week."

“By” does not mean “before.” It means up to and including the stated point in time. Any dictionary is enough to prove that.

Love your confidence, though.

 

[webkit]

By means before, which would mean it has to be this week. Unless they said "by the end of next week."

By can mean "at or before." Another way to define it would be "no later than."

 

[geta]

this phone will be a hot seller for the "i dont care which phone i have" crowd

Not really, because these people will continue to use the phone they have as long as it works.

 

[Diode]

Not really, because these people will continue to use the phone they have as long as it works.

Uh count me in on this crowd. Hitting 4+ years with my 12 Pro.

A phone with most the features but half the price of the flag ship 16? Yes please. Should be good for another 4+

 

[1rottenapple]

I’ve been keeping an eye on used resale values of iPhone 16. And waiting 2-4 months you see big discounts, 200-400 depending on site. So the SE4 on the refurbished Amazon market and other sites would be fabulous at 300-350 after 2-4 months from release. Talk about great value.

 

[thefrost]

Not long left to go.

 

[Techwatcher]

This is going to be the greatest budget phone ever released, let alone budget iPhone.

 

[Azzurro]

At this point, we are all Gurman as we can predict that iPhone 17 will be launched this September.

No sht Sherlock.

 

[Hails09]

Sounds like Gurman has lost a bit of his reputability...

Could be some people he was getting his information from have maybe dried up

 

[victorvictoria]

To get to $1999 retail, the features Apple would have had to drop are the "Vision" portion of it: 4K per eye. Once they step down to this "cheaper" one people seek by basically matching up features to what is already out there, the new broad complaint will be "blurry." And then much cheaper options from others will make even more sense because the key differentiation that directly feeds into the name "Vision" will be no better than the $200-$500 options.

There isn't $1500 in the "eyes" screen on the front, speakers, etc. But dump the 4K per eye and they can probably get there.

Well, potential clients can sample the UHD 4K version and the hypothetical HD version, and make their own decision based on price/value as it pertains to each of them individually. There's probably a lot more sales at $1,999 than at $3499. Especially given that more than half of the customers will need the lens inserts, making the buy-in of the current VP over $5,000 with sales tax. For a toy!

 

[ThomasJL]

Whenever the new iPhone SE is finally announced, it is rumored to feature a 6.1-inch OLED display, Face ID, a USB-C port, a single 48-megapixel rear camera, and the first Apple-designed 5G modem.

I hope that camera is the exact same one as the main camera on the latest flagship. If so, it would make the iPhone SE 4 and the iPhone SE 1 the only two SE models released with the same camera as the main camera on the current flagship at the time of release.

 

[maasj]

I'm just pining away for a newer Mini-size phone. <sigh>

 

[bigheaddoug]

I bet you €10 that the person who leaked this story was named Monsieur Marque de Ghuermán.

 

[frownface]

All I need to know at this point, to consider upgrading my 2020 SE is who much is it going to cost. Apple really screwed the pooch when they priced the VisionPro at $3,499. It would have been better for sales if they'd dropped some features and sold it for $1,999. It's too late for this new SE, since it's already in production, but Apple should heed that advice going forward. SE buyers don't want to pay for features they don't need, and probably won't ever use.

Rumour is $499. Seems that the SE 2022 launched at $429, so it's a $70 price increase which is probably reasonable for what you're getting extra.

 

[turbineseaplane]

C'mon Apple ... Release this thing so we can all move on

The hilarious part is I'll bet about 95% of us talking about it have no intention to buy it

😂

 

[rwh63]

This week, next week, the week after that. Might as well throw anything out there and you're bound to be right!

definitely this year (2025).