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Well, it does matter since the blue pixel is bigger than the other two. How do you compare ppi in that case with another tech. The fact that you mention 1080p just make me roll my eyes. ppi has nothing to do with 1080p, nothing. You can have 1080p on your TV with a different ppi than your phone.



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Well, if you like a blueish screen then you go with pentile, that is not RGB accurate like the IPS LCD.

Or you know, you just change the display mode in settings to one of the more accurate settings. People still think this is an issue? It hasn't been one since the Note 2 came out with display presets in its revision of Touchwiz.
 
I don't see the screen elongation as a bigger screen, I see it as a change in aspect ratio. But maybe Apple will increase it again with iPhone 6. Also, how is the screen sharper on other phones? As a consumer with the knowledge of what a retina display is, does bigger and sharper really make sense?
 
How is pentile OLED sharper than IPS LCD?

You seem to be under the wrong impression that all Android manufacturers use PenTile OLED and Apple is the only one who uses IPS. The Nexus 4 from LG+Google used IPS for its 4.8" display to name one and it is a fantastic display. Also, not all OLED displays that are used in smartphones happen to be PenTile.
 
People aren't buying iPhones because of their screen size, but despite of it.


All that yadi yadi ya in the Apple promotion videos about the "perfect size" is ************.
 
Agreed. It's always been about the "Girth". :apple:

and how you use it.

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This.

My Dad and brothers GS4 and HTC One (respectivly) are both always on chargers, and they always complain about battery. I use my iPhone 5 all the time, and have only had an issue with battery life ONCE. And that was when I couldn't charge it for 3 days.

I easily get through a 20 hour day on a single charge, with 10% to spare usually.

unthis.

Opposite for me and my co-worker. His iPhone 5S is always on the charger and I usually have about 60 or so percent when I leave the office without having it charging from 6:30am on...

Same usage approximately.

So you see - different scenarios. Neither yours or mine is a generalization I would make.
 
Can anyone pinpoint which Motorola phone(s) they are comparing iPhone to? Anything with a screen size larger than 4" should match or beat iPhone's battery life. If we're talking 5" or larger, they should be embarrassed if they can't double iPhone's battery life.

I have an iPhone 4 supplied to me by my employer and a Motorola Droid Razr that I carry as a personal phone. The iPhone 4 is on AT&T. The Motorola Droid Razr is on Page Plus Cellular which is a Verizon MVNO.

I am a light user. According to the usage stats on the iPhone 4 I use it for an hour a day on average. The Droid Razr gets used much less than that.

I haven't bothered to watch my power consumption closely since the iOS7 release, but I know on IOS6 I could get five to six days battery life before needing to recharge. This is leaving all the radios on (cellular, data, WiFi, location services).

For the Motorola Droid Razr, if I leave all the radios on, I'll get about two days. Turning all the radios off except for the cellular voice/text will get me five days.

I think the reason Consumer Reports results are different than the experiences of many on Macrumors.com is that CR is testing under controlled or at least semi-controlled conditions where Macrumors.com members are evaluating conditions "in the wild" so to speak.

There are a lot of variables that can have an impact on battery life. For example the distance you are from a cell tower and greatly impact you battery life. Also, one person may be running apps that place a greater drain on the phones battery than another.

Just my opinion, but if your phone is constantly on, then you'll probably find that Android phone perform better because of their larger batteries. But if your phone spends a significant amount of time on standby, then you'll probably find that the iPhone performs better as Apple seems to have done a better job at power management on standby.
 
Well, according to the experts iPhone 5 display is somewhat bluish compared to Samsung Galaxy S4 which is much closer to the norm. According to DisplayMate.com, white color temperatures (Degrees Kelvin) for SGS3, SGS4 and iPhone 5 are as follows:

SGS3
7,860 K - Somewhat Too Blue

SGS4
7,186 K Standard Mode
6,591 K Movie Mode - Movie Mode Excellent

iPhone 5
7,461 K - Somewhat Too Blue



Note: D6500 is the standard color of White for most Content and needed for accurate color reproduction.

Someone who knows the SMPTE standards for film and broadcasting reproduction. :)

The ignorance of people who regurgitate the color accuracy accolades of IPS panels, when in fact IPS has nothing to do with it. That is a combination of proper color tracking throughout the enture grayscale as well as saturation and hue... these are components of the color filters and software integrated with the hardware.

OLED is praised for its efficiency, wider color gamut, contrast, viewing angles and peak luminance given the proper power supply.

For the illinformed, the correct color temperature is 6500 Kelvin, also referred to as D65. The overall standard is referred to as REC 709 for HD broadcasting and film reproduction.
 
Obviously it's iOS7 that is the battery culprit here and not the new Apple 5s/c hardware. Hopefully after a few more updates we'll get back some of that decent battery life. Shutting off non essential features in iOS7 can help with the battery life. I HATE iOS7.
 
what

When i shop for a new phone, all I want are many hours of battery life and a big, bright screen. I find my RAZR MAXX works all day. I use it to make calls, and do email for work. I use my iPhone for music, podcasts, personal email, navigation, photos, facebook, twitter, browsing, googling, "automatic", bejeweled blitz, read the WSJ. I wish I could do all that on my work DROID but it sucks.
 
My HTC One has a much larger battery than my iPhones I've owned, and I do the same battery saving stuff on it, and it drains as fast, or faster than any iPhone I've had.. even jailbroken ones with a lot of stuff on them. My HTC display is great, but there's no noticeable difference from my Retina iPhones. I think Consumer Reports just hates Apple. ;)
 
I saw an average sized guy talking on a Galaxy Note and it was ridiculously big and odd looking. No way was it comfortable for him to hold. Looked stupid.
 
"can't beat the larger, sharper displays"

Larger, Ok. Yep they are larger, agreed. Some users would like a larger display, agreed.

Sharper. Uh no. Retina means a screen has a high enough pixel density that you can not discern individual pixels. Once you hit retina resolution you are done. The resolution arms race is over once retina density is reached. Apples screens are retina so they are as sharp as a screen can possibly be.

So really here is the news flash, brought to you by stating the obvious news :

Android phones are larger which means they have larger screens and larger batteries!
 
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I use an iPhone 5 for work and Droid DNA for personal use.

Battery life is about the same and the DNA is considered to have "terrible" battery life compared to the newer phones today.

But the larger screen just makes the Droid DNA much easier to use, especially when navigating. As for watching video on the 1080p DNA vs sub 720p iPhone 5, there is no contest.

So I can't wait till the (hopefully) bigger screen iPhone 6 comes out.
 
Sharper. Uh no. Retina means a screen has a high enough pixel density that you can not discern individual pixels. Once you hit retina resolution you are done. The resolution arms race is over once retina density is reached. Apples screens are retina so they are as sharp as a screen can possibly be.

Lay off the Kool-aid, dude.
 
Apple always win with battery on everything they do. That just proven. No need to repeat history. and show off, but i'd actually still go for the Nexus 7 for display....



(...That is, if i didn't have so many dam Apple apps.)

oh well.
 
my 5S battery is pretty *good* actually. def go more than a day with fairly heavy usage. not sure what cr, or other people, are doing with their phones.. but calls, texts all day, surfing, some video and music pb, takin pix... no battery issue.

and i for one do not want a phone bigger than the 5. when i want a tablet, i'll reach for a tablet; when i want a phone, i reach for a phone....

The Moto X gets way longer.

I love my 5, but to say it has excellent battery life is just being a fanboy.
 
"can't beat the larger, sharper displays"

Larger, Ok. Yep they are larger, agreed. Some users would like a larger display, agreed.

Sharper. Uh no. Retina means a screen has a high enough pixel density that you can not discern individual pixels. Once you hit retina resolution you are done. The resolution arms race is over once retina density is reached. Apples screens are retina so they are as sharp as a screen can possibly be.

So really here is the news flash, brought to you by stating the obvious news :

Android phones are larger which means they have larger screens and larger batteries!

I don't know about not being able to discern individual pixels, the circular signal strength indicators in iOS 7 look a bit jagged.
 
Well, al i can say is that i sit with a friend at work how has a SGS3 whos phone is bleeping with 7% at 2pm where my ip5s is at 70%, which wifi on, bluetooth, taking calls, basically not having to worry about the battery.

Yes, some droids my get "24hrs" but they also have a battery thats 3000mAh in size and takes an age to charge up to full.
 
Just because they bashed Apple, doesn't mean they're not good.

No, but they aren't good. Their comments about the screen represent what has become a typical problem for Consumer Reports, namely that the mix fact and opinion in a way that obscures they boundaries of each. Rather than talk about such issues as color saturation and sharpness in isolation, which could be illuminating, they meld these issues with their view that a bigger screen is necessarily better. For those who disagree with that proposition, their conclusions simply aren't worth much.

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People aren't buying iPhones because of their screen size, but despite of it.

Based on what? The iPhone's size seems pretty ideal to me.
 
The Moto X gets way longer.

I love my 5, but to say it has excellent battery life is just being a fanboy.

For work I finally had to get a moto maxx. My iPhone 5 gets me about a quarter of what the maxx gets me. I was charging that thing 2 times a day with the use I had with it. Got sick and tired of having to charge every few hours. The Maxx lasts me from morning to night with 3 hours or more of calls and 7 hours of screen time. Amazing battery
 
This feels familiar. From almost exactly a year ago:

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/c...ends-iphone-5-says-galaxy-s-iii-still-6289094
"Consumer Reports, whose considered opinions on products tend to be taken seriously, has called the iPhone 5 "a winner" in its review, but said in a press release that the Android-powered Samsung Galaxy S III was "still king.""

The Moto X gets way longer.

I love my 5, but to say it has excellent battery life is just being a fanboy.

"Fanboy" is too strong of a word. The battery life comparison is much more nuanced. If you look at Anandtech's battery test, the iPhone 5 handily beat the Moto X in LTE browsing test (8 vs 5 hours) does slightly better in wifi browsing (10.3 vs 8.4 hours) and falls significantly behind in talk time (8.8 vs 12.6 hours) So it depends on how you use the phone. Also as always, what kind of signal you get in your area heavily affects the real life battery too.
 
Never thought I would have heard Android being better for battery than iOS.

I can usually get a couple of days out my iPhone 5... yet my GS4 wielding friends get worried at the thought of leaving their houses without the charger. :confused:

Ditto. Switched to the GS4 to dabble around with Android.

Currently in a support chat with AT&T to do my FOURTH warranty replacement on the battery. Battery life is terrible enough on a battery with little-to-no cycles, but after a few weeks it's abysmal. I'm from 100% at 7 AM to 60% by 11AM, idling in my pocket doing NOTHING on Airplane mode.

:eek:
 
Im guessing you hardly use your phone while your friends with GS4s are on them all day. I got 6 hours screen on time with my GS4, same as my friends with it. My iPhones always got around the 5 hour mark.
I use it on the hour long train to work, on and off all day at work, more on lunch break, and on the train home again. Keep using it in the evening and plug it in with about 40% battery left before going to bed.

I have a USB interface in my car, GS4 friends frequently ask to "top up" their battery when they're in the car with me. I would guess they would use the phone the same amount as I do, we're tech guys...
 
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