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New iPhones See 'Stronger Than Expected' Demand With One Exception

dandyryan said:
the iphone air is a skinny legend (like mariah carey) but lets be real the general public needs more than 1 camera, especially at $999 like how tf am i gonna zoom in during a concert and flex how close i am sitting to the performer on instagram stories
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One camera also doesn't flex like three. More lenses = more money = more flex.
 
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VisceralRealist said:
Not surprising. Thinness is not as big of a priority for most consumers when compared to battery life or cameras. Most people want either 1) the basic phone with most of the features, 2) the flagship with all of the features. It's hard to justify a phone that is more expensive than the base model but is missing some of what the base phone offers (more cameras, better battery life). Its thinner, appealing design was supposed to compensate for the missing features and the higher price, but it doesn't appear to be doing so.

Apple hasn't been able to come up with a viable "fourth option". The Mini and the Plus were both the least popular of the models when they were available. They tried smaller, they tried bigger, now they've tried thinner. Not sure what else they can do to make something as successful as the base model and the Pros.
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Next year they will try and fold it.
 
El Cabong said:
Ridiculous take. The Air isn't complicated - what it is is (marginally) thinner and (marginally) lighter than the base 17, while being more expensive and having fewer cameras. You think people don't do any research before spending ~$1000 on a phone? There's a reason people are returning their Airs for Pros and base 17's, and it isn't because they don't understand what lightness/thinness is.
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It's not marginal. It's dramatically thinner and lighter. My 2 cents.
 
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DownUnderDan said:
I must disappoint so many people when I go out and pay absolutely no attention to their phone or count its lenses. Sorry to all those people whose lives I unintentionally shattered.
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Have some fun with it, I say ...
Next time a known status obsessed person pulls out their phone, ask them:

"is that an iPhone 13? -- looks like a 13 ... oh wait, no ... that's a 12 right?"
 
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Haha I hope it fails miserably it’s not innovative in the slightest it’s a way of Apple selling a crippled device.

iPhone 17 Plus would have have flown off the shelf's but Apple were to dumb to realise that.
 
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The iPhone Air’s role in the lineup is to convince people to spend “just a bit more” and buy the Pro models. It is so obvious yet reviewers and the public fall for it.
 
DrWojtek said:
The mini failed because it was too damn small. Yet the 6.3 is too big. 5.8 is the best spot!
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The minis, which I wanted!, failed for me due to idiotic designs while trying to answer for previous other idiotic designs. Great size! Squared edges! Oh.. stupid side button, and stupid wart. Sigh. Next.

And now 4 years later it’s back to original idiotic designs. Rounded(-ish) edges, top heavy, too wide, too tall, still a wart, less capable cameras… Geezus what blind monkey is running the design studio these days?
Don’t we have periscope lenses? Aren’t they suppose to solve wart issues? Or do I need to put Dr. Scholl’s pads on it?
 
Impossible for anyone being honest can say the Air is only “marginally” thinner or lighter. I had a 15PM and as soon as I took the Air out I knew it was for me. It’s more than just the weight but the form factor. I don’t feel it in my pocket and it’s so easy to hold and use one handed. But I still get a great screen unlike the Minis in the past. I went in and compared to the 17 Pro and regular 17 and it was no contest.

I had been a Max user for years only for the camera. But I’m tired of large, heavy phones. I’m smart enough to know that there’s more to a phone than specs. Design and feel are important.

Battery - not an issue..I have chargers
Camera - not an issue. 5X photos weren’t that great to warrant keeping
Speaker - AirPods
USB-2 - I have and iPad
 
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DownUnderDan said:
I must disappoint so many people when I go out and pay absolutely no attention to their phone or count its lenses. Sorry to all those people whose lives I unintentionally shattered.
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I look forward to the seemingly inevitable day when the most of the population has a 65” flatscreen with backpack straps attached to their back and I’m back on a 2002 Motorola Razr flip phone 🤣.

Smeg84 said:
Haha I hope it fails miserably it’s not innovative in the slightest it’s a way of Apple selling a crippled device.

iPhone 17 Plus would have have flown off the shelf's but Apple were to dumb to realise that.
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It’s by far the most innovative iPhone in a decade. Sticking a faster chip in a fat case is not innovative, it’s what every tech maker has done for time immemorial. Apple has never won by playing spec games, that’s what PCs are for. They win by bringing forward top notch industrial design with solid specs. The pro is a great phone but it’s by no means innovative. It’s a beer can with a fast processor.

El Cabong said:
It's about 30% thinner, which is a substantial percentage decrease, but this is only about 2.3mm, which to me is not much. The weight decrease is only around 7%, which is not dramatic. My $0.02.
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Put it in the pocket of an athletic fit pair of jeans then talk to me. It’s far more comfortable, and also doesn’t look like I’m carrying a cinder block.
 
DrWojtek said:
The mini failed because it was too damn small. Yet the 6.3 is too big. 5.8 is the best spot!
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This mini was praised for its size the reason it didnt beat the base or pro in sales is the price point it was almost the same price as the reg iphone
 
EM2013 said:
That’s cause it priced premium lacks camera features and has less battery. Oh and the awkward sounding single speaker. Its only gimmick is that it’s thin.
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Nah apple didnt even talk about the pro max really cuz they know pro max users always buy pro max regardless
 
The air is priced almost the same as pro and more then base ofc its not gonna match sales numbers, it has less features and its main appeal is design
 
ProbablyDylan said:
It's crazy how people on here react to new form factors or to Apple trying things.
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Sometimes Apple’s damned if it does, damned if it doesn’t. They introduce a slightly different look for the Pros and some people moan, but if they’d left the Pros as they were those same people would be moaning that it looked the same as previous generations.
 
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JPack said:
Nobody in China was looking forward to this thing. It lacks battery life, which is really important in a fully digital economy where you can only pay using QR codes. It's eSIM only as well.

Air has been available since day one in Hong Kong. Nobody is buying it, not locally, not for reselling across Asia or Middle East.
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I was in the Hong Kong Apple store on day one and saw lots of people buying the Air. I bought the AW ultra 3 and went to the Stanley market and bought 2 great leather bands for it.
 
My 15PM still great for my needs and looks better than the new style Pro & Air. If I were considering the Air…

- CAMERA: In the last 4 years - using my 13P and 15PM - how many great photos/videos have I taken using the ultra wide and 3-5x optical zooms? Probably a 100+ photos and 300+ videos! (Never use macro)

- BATTERY: I wouldn’t care a whole lot about the extra battery costs. The apple battery is $100 for 5,000mah whereas you can buy ANKER small-medium-large magnetic batteries for less $ and then pack one or more based on day’s need. Plus even in heavy use you could easily fast charge at office desk or in car during day. Keep one of those keychain USB-C cables with you and you can charge from an iPad, iPhone, etc.

- SPEAKER: How often would I want Bluetooth-ish level sound when I don’t (conveniently) have a Bluetooth speaker? Sometimes I just want to play one song and don’t always want to connect to the speaker E.g., places where I don’t wear headphones such as sauna, shower, car (I don’t have CarPlay or Bluetooth), golf course, tennis court, beach. Bluetooth runs out of battery and mine is still using micro-usb (slow charge and don’t always have cable). Maybe I’d just accept i need to use a Bluetooth speaker or use AirPods more often.

- WEIGHT: You get a 6.5” screen for the weight of 2 US quarters less than the 17 (6.3”), but 12 U.S. quarters less (30% less) than the 17PM (6.9”).
 
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