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they need to come out with many different songs, and no good charolette! argh!
i like them, and the song has been stuck in my head since god knows when. anyway, don't want to have to watch frieds., i hate that show. not to mention they were supposed to end it how long ago😉
 
Re: another thing

Originally posted by VicMacs
then youd have to put little batteries on the headphones ...just wouldnt be good for dancing... and jumping... and imagine the cost of these headphones... yikes... it would raise the price of the ipod... which isnt very cheap imho....

ipods for 200 would sell like hotcakes!

get with it apple!

Older version iPods are available for that price or less.
 
If iPod headphones used Bluetooth, what would happen if you walked by someone else using an iPod?

Does Bluetooth have different channels (frequencies)?
 
Originally posted by melican
If iPod headphones used Bluetooth, what would happen if you walked by someone else using an iPod?

Does Bluetooth have different channels (frequencies)?

that's what the wireless keyboards and mice do. ADH technology.. ADH stands for adoptive frequency hopping.

Originally posted by Potus
Older version iPods are available for that price or less.

yes, but not a lot of people that aren't mac people know where to get them, and ant the newer versions.
 
Re: another thing

Originally posted by VicMacs
then youd have to put little batteries on the headphones ...just wouldnt be good for dancing... and jumping... and imagine the cost of these headphones... yikes... it would raise the price of the ipod... which isnt very cheap imho....

ipods for 200 would sell like hotcakes!

get with it apple!

If they brought back the 5 Gig and priced it under $200, say in the $140 - 170 range, i could easily, as i think much many more people, could justify the purchase although even at 200 would be pretty sweet.

The new 10 gig costs 439 CND, with taxes thats over 500, i can't justify that for something that just plays music
 
The COG differance between a 5gig and a 10 or 15 gig drive is almost nothing. They are all single platter drives. There is no way to have a 5gig iPod be 1/2 the cost of a 10/15gig when there is nothing different between the two. When you but an iPod, the bulk of the unit is not disk space.
 
Originally posted by slowtreme
The COG differance between a 5gig and a 10 or 15 gig drive is almost nothing. They are all single platter drives. There is no way to have a 5gig iPod be 1/2 the cost of a 10/15gig when there is nothing different between the two. When you but an iPod, the bulk of the unit is not disk space.

sigh....dare to dream
 
Re: You're mistaken.

Originally posted by Jesus on OSX
You sir, do not understand marketing. Just like websites, you have to capture the attention of the audience within the first 5-7 seconds or the channel is flipped.
[...]
And the classical music does not work during primetime. Wagner is great ...

Oooh, you speak with such 'authority'. You obviously know everything about marketing!

You're speaking of 15-30 year olds as if they are the entire popluation or the only ones that buy anything. And that 'pop-culture' shows are the only ones on TV. Granted, that's a big group, (and probably represent the majority of the readers of this web site) but believe it or not there are other people out there that listen to music and can afford an iPod, and that upon hearing "Shake your booty" would be flipping to the next channel as fast as their 'aged' fingers could press the 'clicker'. There's plenty of music other than Hip-Hop that can grab people's attention. You might want to check out this link that indicates that 45% of music buyers are into 'mature music'. And remember that Yo-Yo Ma is one of Apple's 'switchers', so apparently they think there are some sales to made in the demographic that he represents.
 
Re: You're mistaken.

Originally posted by Jesus on OSX
You sir, do not understand marketing. Just like websites, you have to capture the attention of the audience within the first 5-7 seconds or the channel is flipped.

Population suffers from ADD. No one is going to stick around and watch some Bach-inspired commericals during pop-culture shows, considering every single ad out there aims to deliver as much adrenaline as possible in a 30-second timeframe.

You snooze, you lose. Black Eyed Peas style Hip-Hop is a perfect candidate for the background music because a) it's catchy b) it's clear c) it's meaningless. Rather than provoking redundant thoughts in consumers, it aims to shift to focus on the product that's being conveyed. "Shake your booty" is something that you don't need to process in your brain consciously. It all happens on motor skill basis. Combine that with the visual aspect of the commercial and you have a killer mix. It would be quite a challenge to figure out this formula with mainstream rock, but my hunch is they're going to try anyway. Good luck to apple with trying to find a good mainstream rock band to fit the above context.

As much as I'd like to see Blind Guardian, Cradle of Filth, Black Label Society, Dillinger Escape Plan or Opeth in iPod commercials, they won't work no matter what. System of a Down has many catchy riffs which would satisfy the soundtrack, but they're too anti-establishment to be put on there. I just hope the "rock" version does not feature those ****** boy-"bands" such as Good Charlotte, Trapt or Limp Bizkit.

And the classical music does not work during primetime. Wagner is great, but too Hitler-oriented 😛

Couldn't dissagree with you more. I think its way more a matter of presentation and how this product will make you feel. The VW Cabrio ad a couple of years ago that had "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake was anything but "rockin" but did generate a lot of memories and overall good feelings (for me anyway) - and it was so subtle and mellow. Probably one of my all time favorite commercials.

I don't think a music player commercial absolutely needs to be high intesity at all. What I think it should be is "different" and "relative." Relative in that they don't lock themselves into one genre... they need to relate to different tastes, but the commercials need to be different, yet repetitive, so theres instant recognition over time. That way it starts to form an identity.

Anyway, my two cents.
 
Bluetooth Headphones (was: Re: Hate to be a critic...)

Originally posted by MrMacman
I thought that was too slow for a transfer *to* the iPod so I imagine for a song it still would be too slow.

You're not entirely wrong, BUT bluetooth is about half as fast as raw CD-quality audio. So, there are solutions:

Advanced Audio Distribution Profile

stereo headphone reference design

And BT is supposed to be low-cost (compared to WiFi), so the headset could probably be produced for something like 10-20$. Of course the price tag would be raised a little, but think about the extra freedom! It's always been such a hassle untangling wires and avoiding them getting caught on the doorknob or something...

I actually envision some sort of elastic arc that goes from ear to ear around the back of your neck and carries the rechargeables and BT chipset at the back, were they are least cumbersome.
 
Re: Hate to be a critic...

Originally posted by nlz
... but these adds highlight the biggest flaw the iPod still has: the cable!

i agree the wireless headphones would be cool, but imagine how quickly ud lose wireless ear buds... they would have to make some ear muff style head phones, which would cost more..
 
Re: Re: You're mistaken.

Originally posted by notEven
Couldn't dissagree with you more. I think its way more a matter of presentation and how this product will make you feel. The VW Cabrio ad a couple of years ago that had "Pink Moon" by Nick Drake was anything but "rockin" but did generate a lot of memories and overall good feelings (for me anyway) - and it was so subtle and mellow. Probably one of my all time favorite commercials.

I don't think a music player commercial absolutely needs to be high intesity at all. What I think it should be is "different" and "relative." Relative in that they don't lock themselves into one genre... they need to relate to different tastes, but the commercials need to be different, yet repetitive, so theres instant recognition over time. That way it starts to form an identity.

Anyway, my two cents.

Sure something not satisfying the "ADD culture" can work, but not in this situation. My first point was perhaps not clearly expressed. It makes sense to have people jumping/dancing/going crazy to a fast, hip song. Rap/Rock/Pop can do that. A Kenny G saxophone solo, simply can't (in this type of setting). You don't run around an dance to Kenny G, you sit and relax. And how attention grabbing would that be? 4 silhouettes sitting on a couch nodding there head. Doesn't work. It's the same thing with classical music.

Just my opinion. 🙂
 
Re: Re: Hate to be a critic...

Originally posted by rickvanr
i agree the wireless headphones would be cool, but imagine how quickly ud lose wireless ear buds... they would have to make some ear muff style head phones, which would cost more..

I totally agree with that. If you really REALLY want wireless connectivity to your ipod, get an itrip and one of those fm headband radios I see all the time.

I dont think bluetooth is ever necessary on the ipod.

Even now, I find the wired remote insufficient (to look up info) when my ipod is stuffed in my backpack. I cant imagine rummaging through my bag everytime I need to advance a song or pause it.

If ever a bluetooth solution came for the ipod, it will look like the itrip/radio combo I suggested above and you can do that right now.
 
Re: Re: Re: You're mistaken.

Originally posted by Freg3000
...You don't run around an dance to Kenny G, you sit and relax.

I spend alot of time feeling sick to my stomach when Kenny G. songs are on😀
 
Re: another thing

Originally posted by VicMacs
then youd have to put little batteries on the headphones ...just wouldnt be good for dancing... and jumping... and imagine the cost of these headphones... yikes... it would raise the price of the ipod... which isnt very cheap imho....

ipods for 200 would sell like hotcakes!

get with it apple!

Would they sell twice as much as iPods for 400?

No?

THEN NO PROFIT!

😀

Remember that Volkswagen ad where we saw a guy lip-syncing and dancing in his car, and then his friend came and opened the door to get in, and "Mr. Roboto" was on full blast? Apple should do something like that! Maybe not...
 
Originally posted by huckleup
Huh? There's no reason they couldn't do a similiar ad where someone is listening to Bach and conducting 'air baton'. I think that would be a great ad. All kinds of music evokes emotion and animation in its listeners, not just rock and hip-hop.

They need to avoid coming across as snooty, especially since most people already think Apples are much more expensive.

*However* I think the above commercial, if somebody was lost in the moment of listening to the music and looked very enthusiastic, would be a great statement. I love rock music and hip hop, but sometimes nothing compares to classical music.
 
Saying this ad is good is not the equivalent of saying the music in the ad is the only kind of music or the iPod won't appeal to a variety or music lovers or classical musid is bad. It's an ad campaign. That's all. It cannot appeal to everyone and isn't intended to.
Just as the New Beetle/iPod commercial appeals to a niche market, so do these ads. I listen to all kinds of music and have it and spoken word on my iPod. And I bet most people do too.
 
Re: Re: Hate to be a critic...

Originally posted by rickvanr
i agree the wireless headphones would be cool, but imagine how quickly ud lose wireless ear buds... they would have to make some ear muff style head phones, which would cost more..
I don't know how they can do it, but they should have a "finder" button on iPods, you can press if you lose the headphones and they'll ring, just like the cordless phones feature. TV set should have the same thing for when you lose the remote, just press a button on the set and the remote responds.
I don't know how iPod can use this because of it's size, but they would be going from cool to ubercool in no time.
 
Re: Hate to be a critic...

Originally posted by Dahl
I don't know how they can do it, but they should have a "finder" button on iPods, you can press if you lose the headphones and they'll ring, just like the cordless phones feature.

They would have to be quite LOUD to be found... Just imagine the kid that comes up with the great prank of pushing the "find" button while you've got those plugs in your ears. Ouch! 😀 😀
 
Re: Re: Hate to be a critic...

Originally posted by nlz
They would have to be quite LOUD to be found... Just imagine the kid that comes up with the great prank of pushing the "find" button while you've got those plugs in your ears. Ouch! 😀 😀
I can see that, but what about, if the function ONLY works when the headphones are disconnected from the iPod. What's when you need the feature and the pranks are then useless. 🙂
 
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