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wait! you said video playback?? on that little screen? if they are going to add video playback then the whole ipod will be a lot bigger -_- ..i dont like that.
First, video playback is just a rumor...like everything else here.
Second, the size would be smaller not bigger.
Third, if you think the screen is too small for watching video than don't use it.
 
Yeah just saw these, seem to have a lot of curvature, looks ok though.

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For this to happen the shuffle needs to get a screen to fill the gap a "fat" nano would create for current ultraportable nano users.
 
For this to happen the shuffle needs to get a screen to fill the gap a "fat" nano would create for current ultraportable nano users.

YEEEES :D, IF THE NANO LOOKS LIKE THAT THE NEW "BIG" IPOD NEEDS TO BE AN IPHONE (TOUCHSCREEN) WITHOUT THE PHONE, LOVE YOU APPLE :D !!!
 
YEEEES :D, IF THE NANO LOOKS LIKE THAT THE NEW "BIG" IPOD NEEDS TO BE AN IPHONE (TOUCHSCREEN) WITHOUT THE PHONE, LOVE YOU APPLE :D !!!

If they try and protect iPhone sales but staying with the same iPod interface as they have now they are going to get trumped by their competition over the next 12 months. I really hope they know that a 100GB touch screen ipod can only complement the iPhone, and wont cannibalize too many sales. Its all profit for Apple afterall. Fingers crossed.
 
For this to happen the shuffle needs to get a screen to fill the gap a "fat" nano would create for current ultraportable nano users.
Give me an iPod Shuffle with a click controls (no touchscreen) and wireless earbuds. I small screen would be a nice to have but not essential. I'm not getting another iPod until that comes out. All the current wires are really so un-Apple like. I don't care about having 8 hours of battery life for my one hour exercise routine.
 
aluminum again!!! *groans* don't know about you guys but aluminum on Nano looks absolutely hideous to me (shuffles look alright though) bring back the 1st gen Nano, plastic injected double layered shiny poly over plastic bodies and stainless steel backs ... AND white colour pleaseeeeeeee!!!
 
All the current wires are really so un-Apple like.

Apple seems to be more about one cord instead of no cords. Not to mention that wireless earbuds would be lost, broken, and kill battery life.

bring back the 1st gen Nano, plastic injected double layered shiny poly over plastic bodies and stainless steel backs

Considering the original nano was essentially a rebirth of the original iPod, I don't know how many times they can "bring it back". Glass and aluminum are the new materials, less scratches and increased durability. Do you have any idea how many people absolutely love their minis?
 
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Look at the shadow/perspective of the blue and silver nano... Something's not right.
Yeah, I noticed that too. It looks like the same original fake nano image might have been colourised and rotated around to make this image. The shadows seem inconsistent. On the other hand, while there is reason to hope these are fake, there is nothing definite about these glitches and it's still possible they are real.

Edit: I just saw a larger original here http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8030/nanospyshotvu1.png and they look quite fake at that resolution. The shadows for each are identical, but rotated around, except the black one's shadow was cut off. And I think I can even see a PShop "canvas" filter at work in the middle there. This is probably that guy at 9to5 who originally proposed this form factor playing a joke on his critics.

I sure hope these are fake, they are ugly with a capital "Ugh!" :eek:

2007 is the "year of Apple." They are doing so much this year, that if there ever was a time for them to make a major mis-step, now is the most likely. No one person or company is perfect and Apple hasn't made a bad product for a long long time now.

What I would like advocates of the new "squarePod" to explain, is why the shape change at all? If you rotate that screen 90 degrees, all the elements would fit into the current (much cooler looking) form factor of the nano.

So why make the thing fat and square at all?
 

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... I'd like Apple to add features like radio & BT audio. ....
Bluetooth is always nice, but don't hold your breath waiting for a radio. People have been asking for this since the first iPod and it hasn't happened yet, mostly because it goes against Apple's design philosophy.

Apple is about quality, and iPods are about music. Radio, except for perhaps some Internet radio, is antithetical to that.

Radio is music for the trailerpark set, or geezers that failed to notice that radio is not what it used to be anymore. If FM radio was still ... well, FM radio, instead of simply a higher frequency version of AM radio, then maybe. But those days are long gone.

Where I live, the only people I see with radios are a couple of older guys who walk around the neighborhood with transistor radios on strings around their necks, blaring out the news to all and sundry because their hearing is failing. That's the core market for portable radio today.

iPods are luxury devices for music lovers, not folks that want to listen to Rush Limbaugh, or "catch the ball game" on the way to work. :rolleyes:

No way will Apple ever put radio on the iPod. They are happy enough that cheap Radio adapters for iPods are available so they don't have to add the functionality themselves.
 
wait! you said video playback?? on that little screen? if they are going to add video playback then the whole ipod will be a lot bigger -_- ..i dont like that.

People will complain no matter what.

If the size stays the same "It's too small to watch video!!!"

If the screen gets bigger "Now it's too big!!!"


Personally, I hope it has video playback. I'd be fine with a modest increase in size for a bigger screen but I'd also be fine with a smaller nano and the same size screen.

These things are for watching video on the go or outputting video to an external screen. As long as there's video output I don't care how small the screen is.

For this to happen the shuffle needs to get a screen to fill the gap a "fat" nano would create for current ultraportable nano users.

Obviously nobody knows specifics, but if the rumors are true, these nanos aren't "fat", they're the same width as now, just less tall. If they're smaller than before, no need for a screen on a shuffle.
 
What I would like advocates of the new "squarePod" to explain, is why the shape change at all? If you rotate that screen 90 degrees, all the elements would fit into the current (much cooler looking) form factor of the nano.

So why make the thing fat and square at all?

First, it sounds like it's not "fat". It's not supposed to be wider than the current one (at least rumor sez), the same size just shorter. If it is wider, that means the screen is bigger than before, which would also be an upside.

And why? Because it's smaller, and unless you make the screen smaller, the only way to shrink it is to take out the unused vertical space.

It's true, you could rotate the screen 90°, but that would be a pretty radical change and potentially a more controversial one than changing the shape. I bet we'll see "landscape" ipods in the future, but only on the touchscreen models.

I don't see why shape is more important than size. Do most consumers really want a bigger device for no other reason than it would be in a shape that is more "pretty"?

When the shuffle got updated, it went from a skinny rectangle to more of a square. Did that hurt sales? I'm not sure why people think doing it with the nano would be any different.
 
... it sounds like it's not "fat". It's not supposed to be wider than the current one ... If it is wider, that means the screen is bigger than before, which would also be an upside. ... It's true, you could rotate the screen 90°, but that would be a pretty radical change ... I don't see why shape is more important than size. Do most consumers really want a bigger device for no other reason than it would be in a shape that is more "pretty"?...
The issue here is design. One of the basic things they teach you in design school is that squares appear "fat" to the eye, whereas longer rectangles appear "thinner." This is why that same rectangular proportion is used for doors, windows, and pretty much everything else, and why short squarish things are hardly ever considered good-looking. This might seem picky to some but Apple lives and breathes these kinds of design aesthetics.

A wider design is a step backwards because it means all new adapters and all new charging equipment. It makes all the previous accessories either obsolete or ungainly at best. There has to be a good design reason for taking such a large usability hit and I don't see one.

If we assume the width is the same and the device is just shorter, then it also doesn't make any sense design-wise because the screen can't get any bigger unless it *is* rotated. The chief difference of this "squarePod" design screen-wise is that it looks a bit more like a widescreen format. To do that without increasing the width would make the screen even smaller than it currently is, so we are back to a possibly wider iPod again.

There is also no reason to take height off of a current iPod nano because it is already a tiny svelte object to begin with and already pushes the boundaries of how small a useful screen can be.

Turning the screen sidewise is far from a radical change IMO, it's more like the most practical solution to the problem that does not involve huge design concessions. This is not a desktop device but one you hold in your hand. The issues here are easily seeing the screen while operating the controls, horizontal or vertical is not really relevant on a device that you can easily hold either way.

I am not saying this is *not* the future nano, I am just saying it's a classic "bad design." It makes the nano excessively unattractive, for reasons that I don't think a real designer would consider sufficient. There are always compromises in design, but to me this is a cheap, easy compromise and not Apple's style at all.

The only way I could see this flying is if it's actually a replacement for the shuffle. A sort of dirt cheap 90 dollar iPod "pico" or something. But even then, as a design, and strictly from an Industrial design perspective, the current Shuffle is a far better design.
 
If theese images actually shows the real re-design, i think we can be sure that it WILL be a lot wider than the 2G Nano, considering the size of the click wheel, i mean if that screen is as big as previusly the wheel would be tiny as hell. I'd prefer either that one (i'm not gonna bother mention who made them or in which post) with a slightly bigger nano to fit a slightly bigger video display, or the one with a widescreen when tilted 90o.

because this squarepod looks ridiculus (unless it is the new design of the iPod Video)
 
(unless it is the new design of the iPod Video)

Might be the case i.e the iPod Mini. Creative has unleached their potential iPod Mini competitor today. 2.5 inch screen, 4,8 and 16GB flavours(plus SDslot) and plays the following formats:
MP3, WMA (w/ DRM), AAC, or Audible audio,WMV, DivX, Xvid, MJPEG and TiVo to Go video files.

Add an 8GB SD card and you've got 24GB to your disposal.

Quite attractive too and the same size as a credit card.:
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the colours are really vile - i don't know what possessed them to be honest they are really bad - i love the bold vibrant colours, these colours are pastel shades and really not very confident.

i just stocked up on an orange shuffle :D that was one short lived model - what a shame it was so funky.
 
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