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New iPods and Pro Machines?

berkleeboy210 said:
I predict iPods will go video, b/c I just bought another branded portable pvr...
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Apple is preparing to take on Satellite TV and the TV broadcast industry with the video iPod, I dub the iPod A/V. Apple wants to leverage their skills in hardware and software integration like they did with the iPod and how it changed how people listen to music. They are going to change how people watch video.
 
Bring it On! I can't wait to see the iPod update goodness. I have a 4th Gen that's having some problems that's under Applecare so if it holds out long enough they'll probably give me a newer one as a replacement. By the way its a 40GB monochrome display and an Apple rep has already told me that if it ever needs to get replaced it would be with a 60GB Photo. Here's hoping for something even better!
 
age234 said:
I hope the new iPods have video out via one of those RCA video camera cables (one jack on one end, out to video and stereo audio on the other). That would be sweet. I don't think watching video on the iPod screen would be useful until it got somewhere around the palm pilot/PSP size. Talk about eye strain. But out to TV would be great.
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Good point. But, you know, I bet Apple would make that an accessory rather than have the iPod able to do it out of the box. They'd probably sell an iPod connector from the A/V port/remote jack to either RCA or S-video. After all, they seem to be slowly creeping in on the multi-million dollar iPod accessory market. Why let Griffin/Belkin reap all the benefit?

Squire
 
I'll be keeping my eye out this month for any updated related to these components. Hopefully near the beginning or middle of the month and not the end of it.
 
Stella said:
I don't think there will ever be a powerbook G5, especially with the Intel conversion. I'd consider a G5 powerbook to include a G5 processor - to be on par with the PowerMac. ( Not just because it contains a G5 processor thus name it G5 - its Generation 5 ).

An Intel PowerBook would be G6?



I really hope Apple put some innovation into the iPod, rather than a half hearted attempt. WiFi would be excellent, as would Video... all at the same price. Yes I can dream!!!

( Video doesn't have to mean commercial Movies - home movies etc would suffice. )
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I agree that the new PowerBook would NOT be a G5 based PowerBook, but rather a either a small G4 speed bump, or a dual core G4 at similar CPU speeds of the current line up.

And like we've said at least a hundred times before, the MacTel PowerBook will NOT be called a PowerBook G6. The G-series is gone with the Intel switch. The "G#" signifies the generation of PPC processors. So a G5 is the fifth generation of PPC Processors for example. So it makes absolutely no sense to call any Intel processor a G6, G7, etc as its not a part of the PPC processor generation.

I'm hoping that the iPod stays doing what it does best, which is playing music. Its wasn't designed to be anything else. IMO, it's main function should ONLY be to play music. I don't want Apple to take a nice gadget and make it complicated by putting useless features in it, such as video that most people won't use. You also have to realize that once Apple's adds a feature to something like an iPod, it will be very difficult, if not impossible to take that feature away. Its like putting Anti-Lock brakes on a Dodge Neon as standard equipment in 2005, and then in 2006 making it optional, or not available at all. Makes the car less appealing, and pisses future customers off. So Apple has to be very careful to what they add to the iPod. Personally, I think they should focus on getting the slimmer, more battery life, and lower prices. All of the above would qualify for a great 5th generation improvement I think.
 
mklos said:
I'm hoping that the iPod stays doing what it does best, which is playing music. Its wasn't designed to be anything else. IMO, it's main function should ONLY be to play music. I don't want Apple to take a nice gadget and make it complicated by putting useless features in it, such as video that most people won't use. You also have to realize that once Apple's adds a feature to something like an iPod, it will be very difficult, if not impossible to take that feature away. Its like putting Anti-Lock brakes on a Dodge Neon as standard equipment in 2005, and then in 2006 making it optional, or not available at all. Makes the car less appealing, and pisses future customers off. So Apple has to be very careful to what they add to the iPod. Personally, I think they should focus on getting the slimmer, more battery life, and lower prices. All of the above would qualify for a great 5th generation improvement I think.
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I hear you - and have felt the same. But- if they can add features to the ipod and not loose it's core ability to play music - then I am going to go with it!
Your right about adding features- Jobs has spoken to the same point in regards to the ipod. So, in my eyes it becomes an ongoing challenge to add desirable options and keep core functions and features. The function being storing / playing music while some of the features are compact, aesthetically pleasing, strong interface, etc. Apple should keep the balance, and make progress. Not simply rest on their laurels. I knew a girl name lauren once, and she wouldn't let Apple rest on her.
 
~Shard~ said:
Very good points - I agree with you. It will indeed be interesting to see exactly what these (eventual!) updates are comprised of. Let's hope we know for certain very soon! Even though I am personally not in the market, I'm still excited to see what is announced. :cool:
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I am very sure that we will see at least one more PPC update of the PB and maybe 2 or 3 updates of the PPC PM before the Intel releases.

I am sure because otherwise Apple would have come right out upfront and said "No more new PPC updates of the PB until Intel machines are ready".

Just like they did last year when they stated no new updates of the PB before christmas.

The reasoning is simple. Apple knows there are many users who are holding out on buying PPC PB's because they think another bump is just around the corner and they do not want a 1st gen Intel PB with limited pro software. Therefore an announcement by Apple would increase current PPC PB sales immediately. ie Users would have no reason to hold out.

If the user was holding out for the Intel based PB they would be unaffected by the announcement, and would continue to hold out until the Intel PB was ready.

Since Apple has not made such an announcement a PPC PB update is imminent. :cool:
 
mklos said:
And like we've said at least a hundred times before, the MacTel PowerBook will NOT be called a PowerBook G6. The G-series is gone with the Intel switch. The "G#" signifies the generation of PPC processors. So a G5 is the fifth generation of PPC Processors for example. So it makes absolutely no sense to call any Intel processor a G6, G7, etc as its not a part of the PPC processor generation.
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What were the names of the chips before the PowerPC?
 
wow...

I'm in the market to replace my 3rd gen iPod and this is good news... especially with podfuture chiming in on it...

I'm also torn right now between upgrading from my 1ghz Ti to a new powerbook or getting a powermac... a release on both would be nice and make it an even tougher decision...

I would also LOVE a drop in price on the 30, as i'm just about to drop 2500 on a refurb i think...
 
tech4all said:
What were the names of the chips before the PowerPC?
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lol, he means what were the cpus called before they were powerpc, were they still "G"s
 
tech4all said:
What were the names of the chips before the PowerPC?
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PowerPC 970 series = G5
PowerPC 7400 series = G4
PowerPC 750 series = G3

Then before that, before they started the "G" naming conventions, there was:

PowerPC 604 series
PowerPC 603
PowerPC 601

And before that they used Motorola 680x0 chips:

Motorola 68040
Motorola 68030
Motorola 68020
Motorola 68000

The switch from 680x0 to PPC was Apple's first major transition.
 
tech4all said:
What were the names of the chips before the PowerPC?
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Motorola 68000 (or m68k). 68000, 68020, 68030, 68040, and the ever-impressive 68080 that got dumped when Apple moved to PPC, NeXT moved to software-only, and Amiga and Atari stopped moving.

Edit: Damn you, Notjustjay ;-)
 
Apple needs something other than the 'nano to drive Christmas sales

Something is coming, not sure what, but the speculation is intriguing.

podfuture was 99% spot on with the 'nano so I hope he is the same with the speculated iPod. I have a 'nano, a 20G colour screen, a 1st gen 'mini, a 1G 'scuffle and the iPod with the buttons across the top. I guess I could sell some of these and get a new 'video model if they come out, but no real need...

As for PB and PM - I think we will see a shift to duel core PM, and HD display PB. I think the PM and PB will be later intel updated, to allow for third part pro software conversion. Most Mac mini and iMac users wouldn't be concerned with pro software and the Joe Blow consumer will finally see the same speed processers on a consumer mac and not have to worry about the 'speed' issue.

Form factor will remain unchanged, although a 'this-is-a-special-edition-last ever-G4/G5-model-mac-to-be -released-before-the-intel-shift' model will be cool.

I am not in the market for either at PM or a PB (Have both and am happy with them) but you never know :p
 
Wouldn't they need an event to update something like this? None are scheduled right?

They wouldn't release something as revolutionary as a Video iPod without some kind of keynote/event thing right?

I'm dying for a smaller fullsize iPod 20gb, I have all the money saved up and its my birthday on thursday....

C'mon apple.
 
~Shard~ said:
Agreed. Although this is rumored to be a reason why the PowerMacs have been delayed so far - due to the new ATI video cards - so yes, let's hope it is indeed a substantial upgrade and they do it up right. :cool:
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Interesting.
I hope this is right - I am in the market for a video editing solution and am debating whether to get a somewhat sick G5 or a price dropped one to tide me over,
These guys at Apple keep us constantly craving.
Actually I don't really need a new machine, my 17 PB is great.
but I do...
but I don't ,
but I do,

I waited to get my PB almost 2 years ago -top of line back then (1.33 Ghz with 2GB of DDR SDRam - oh and I put a 7200 Hitachi HD inside) and it is STiLL a PoWeRfULL, Beautiful and Sick, Sweet thing...
So...
Timing is Everything

Might be time to grab a Sick new Dual/Dualcore with ATi if they come, 20 months before the 2nd Gen intelMac and all the software and everything is up to par....

BUT, I'm used to having a machine for 4 years and I Wonder If everything will just stop being made or supported for these brand new "old school" G5's

cheers,
b
 
I bet they update the ipods and not anything else. It seems like that is all they care about lately. Maybe I am just crabby because I want a new Powerbook. But, I have a bad feeling...
 
bentoon said:
Interesting.
BUT, I'm used to having a machine for 4 years and I Wonder If everything will just stop being made or supported for these brand new "old school" G5's
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I don't think you have to worry about that. It will be quite sometime before software vendors have native x86 applications available for the Mac. Also remember that the PPC machines will be in the majority for at least 3 - 4 more years. Apple will be supporting the old architecture for a good long time at least >4 years with universal binaries available for PPC. :)
 
notjustjay said:
PowerPC 970 series = G5
PowerPC 7400 series = G4
PowerPC 750 series = G3

Then before that, before they started the "G" naming conventions, there was:

PowerPC 604 series
PowerPC 603
PowerPC 601

And before that they used Motorola 680x0 chips:

Motorola 68040
Motorola 68030
Motorola 68020
Motorola 68000

The switch from 680x0 to PPC was Apple's first major transition.
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To complement that info, here is a list of recent processors and what Apple used/uses them in:

ARM7TDMI
iPod
iPod (Click Wheel)
iPod (color U2 SE)
iPod (color)
iPod (Dock Connector)
iPod (U2 Special Edition)
iPod mini
iPod mini (2nd gen)
iPod nano
iPod photo

PowerPC 7400
Power Macintosh G4 (AGP Graphics)
Power Macintosh G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)
Power Macintosh G4 (PCI Graphics)
Power Macintosh G4 Cube

PowerPC 7410
PowerBook G4

PowerPC 7447
eMac (USB 2.0)
PowerBook G4 (12.1" DVI)
PowerBook G4 (15" FireWire 800)
PowerBook G4 (17" 1.33 GHz)

PowerPC 7447a
eMac (Mid 2005)
iBook G4 (Early 2004)
iBook G4 (Late 2004)
iBook G4 (Mid 2005)
Mac mini
PowerBook G4 (1.5 - 1.67 GHz)
PowerBook G4 Family

PowerPC 7450
eMac
iMac (17")
iMac (Flat Panel)
Power Macintosh G4 (Digital Audio)
Power Macintosh G4 (Quicksilver)
PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet)

PowerPC 7455
eMac (ATI Graphics)
iBook G4
iMac (Early 2003)
iMac (USB 2.0)
Power Macintosh G4 (FireWire 800)
Power Macintosh G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors)
Power Macintosh G4 (Quicksilver 2002)
PowerBook G4 (1 GHz/867 MHz)
PowerBook G4 (12.1")
PowerBook G4 (17")
PowerBook G4 (DVI)
Xserve
Xserve (Cluster Node)
Xserve (Slot Load) / Xserve RAID

PowerPC 750
iBook
iBook SE
iMac
iMac (Early 2001)
iMac (Rev. C)
iMac (Rev. D)
iMac (Slot Loading)
iMac (Summer 2000)
iMac DV (Summer 2000)
iMac DV SE (Summer 2000)
iMac DV+
iMac DV/SE
Macintosh Server G3
Power Macintosh G3
Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White)
Power Macintosh G3 All-in-one
PowerBook G3
PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard)
PowerBook G3 (FireWire)
PowerBook G3 Series
PowerBook G3 Series (rev. 2)

PowerPC 750cx
iBook (14.1")
iBook (Dual USB)
iBook (Late 2001)
iBook/iBook SE (FireWire)
iMac (Summer 2001)
iMac SE (early 2001)

PowerPC 750fx
iBook (Early 2003)
iBook (Late 2002)
iBook (Mid 2002)

PowerPC 970
iMac G5
iMac G5 (Mid 2005)
Power Macintosh G5

PowerPC 970FX
Power Macintosh G5 (Early 2005)
Power Macintosh G5 (June 2004)
Xserve G5
Xserve G5 (Cluster Node)
 
digitalbiker said:
I don't think you have to worry about that. It will be quite sometime before software vendors have native x86 applications available for the Mac. Also remember that the PPC machines will be in the majority for at least 3 - 4 more years. Apple will be supporting the old architecture for a good long time at least >4 years with universal binaries available for PPC. :)
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Exactly. After all, just look how long they've had Classic stick around! :eek: ;)
 
Shattering Fast said:
Wouldn't they need an event to update something like this? None are scheduled right?

They wouldn't release something as revolutionary as a Video iPod without some kind of keynote/event thing right?

I'm dying for a smaller fullsize iPod 20gb, I have all the money saved up and its my birthday on thursday....

C'mon apple.
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No, they don't need an event. IIRC, the 4th gen iPod was released without an event.
 
Agent Smith said:
Lower priced PBs would be awesome, but what would be VERY cool is if the PB line went HD with their displays, in addition to getting a dual core G4 processor. If that happens, I'll be in line to ge a 15" or 17". :)

I just hope that it's not a 33 MhZ speedbump... :mad:
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PB & HD: 15" & 17" are already HD. ;)

Dual Core G4: not going to happen. Read Freescale's website. It won't be released for benchmarking until late '06.

As hoping it's not a 30MHZ speedbump: If it's a 1.7MHz 7448, it'd be worth it. :cool:
 
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