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These mock ups are cute, but I really wish whoever is making these would stop trying to come up with "Apple-esque" marketing slogans to go next to them. They just sound dumb. "Moving pictures, on the move"? Wow, I hope Donny Deutsch doesn't hear that and steal your wonderful slogan.
 
blitzkrieg79 said:
In the late 80s and early 90s nothing came even close to Amigas in terms of performance for the price(fast processors coupled with audio/video coprocessors) and OS (I didnt find the UI to be too difficult to navigate-remember we are comparing things that were available at the exact same time and Mac OS and Windows were no where close) and thats a fact (maybe except Atari ST), Jurassic Park was done on Amigas and Disney still uses Amigas to these day...

Anyway, it just shows how marketing is the most important aspect of the company, not the hardware/software... If hardware/software was what mattered the most we all would be running on Amigas right now... Too bad Commodore insisted on investing in their PCs instead of Amiga...

Sure, Krieg...but I wasn't even talking about the Mac OS...the GS/OS in the Apple IIGS (and also the GEOS in the Apple II) were better examples of UI in an OS...they had far more features and a much better organized view...the Workbench in the Amiga was pure crap, IMHO...but tastes differ, of course...
 
Foocha said:
ipod_movie2.jpg


Maybe the click wheel should be rotated... That would make it look like it's actually functional... it would be confusing otherwise..
 
MontyZ said:
Would anyone actually buy these new Macs that are non-Intel? I guess we'll find out.
Anyone who wants to maintain PPC for the longest amount of time because of software/hardware dependencies in the tools they use (mostly applies to Xserve and Power Mac users). This type of thing happened with the last Macs that had the ability to boot Mac OS 9. This could turn out to be a large factor in Apple near term sales for the product segments most affected.

Also likely a fare amount of folks don't care so they wont change their buying habits.

Also in general not all that many folks know that Apple is making a switch so they wont change their buying habits.

Finally recall that Intel based Macs wont be available until some time mid next year and even then only a subset of the product line will make the switch. It will take well into 2007 for all product segments to make the switch over. It is widely believed/rumored product segment conversion will go in the following order: portable (iBook, PowerBook), consumer (Mac mini, iMac, eMac), professional (Power Mac, Xserve).
 
ColoJohnBoy said:
I could kiss you!

Any word on PowerBooks?

You are, I must say, an incredibly intriguing member ;)


shudders as ColojohnBoy xxxxxxxxx PodFuture's ((o))


seriously though we should take bets on PodFuture. I'd put some money down on his info being correct....but not the date. i think dates can change pretty easily. October, yes, the 7th...i dont think i could put money down on that one.
 
DTphonehome said:
These mock ups are cute, but I really wish whoever is making these would stop trying to come up with "Apple-esque" marketing slogans to go next to them. They just sound dumb. "Moving pictures, on the move"? Wow, I hope Donny Deutsch doesn't hear that and steal your wonderful slogan.

Let's see your ideas.
 
DTphonehome said:
They just sound dumb. "Moving pictures, on the move"? Wow, I hope Donny Deutsch doesn't hear that and steal your wonderful slogan.

Yeah, what's with that?? Like "iPod shuffle - Give chance a chance"... oh wait... that's an Apple's slogan. :eek:

;)
 
steve_hill4 said:
Okay, I stand corrected, (mainly because I haven't fully looked into h.264 yet, I really should do). But I take everything on board what you said. I still think we will see an iPod with video capability soon, but HD? Not so sure still.

I never said it would do HD, 480x270 @ 16:9 isn't even full SD resolution, but with a fast enough processor, it could be scaled to HD resolution with only a meager loss of quality. I still wouldn't be watching movies off of an iPod on my 42" plasma.
 
Waiting To Be Impressed.

Being a self-respecting iPod specialist, I would say we could cross our fingers for this one.

As much as the video aspect being highly unlikely. Jobs himself has been very negative about video, when he says something like "yeah, the video industry is big, we should play a role", then we could anticipate a iPod movie or what ever, but right now, as much as the prospect is weak and uncredible, video might just be the next thing for Apple. I don't expect to see any movies soon on the iPods, this music-video stuff sounds very weak, as people will not go and spend an extra dollar to see artists on screen when listening to their iPods. (Normally people watch the road when walking with an iPod) If however the Journal had reported that Apple had been talking to some of the movie industry personnel, about distributing movie clips or selling movies on their iTunes Music Store, (which is in itself a problem), then the possiblity of a Video iPod becomes higher, but at this current moment, with the anticipated upgrade in generation, we could expect anything, as we finally leave the 4G.

5G. This means a whole generation change, form factor, aesthetics, technology all go a significant shift. We probably will a hefty reduction in size of the 40GBs, and with the introduction of the 80s, the 30s and 60s will be history. The interesting aspect with this annoucement is that it targets directly on the on coming Christmas market. It is no suprise that this should be Apple's direction. They have the Shuffles, Nanos, and the iPods that recieve a generation upgrade, with these guns, it is more than likely that Apple is going to rake in millions in pure profits alone with the holiday season.

Apart from a size reduction and general capacity increase, I cannot speculate any further as no speculation beyond this point is credible. Anything can be put up for speculation from video. This is a very volatile medium that Apple has no control over. They want to control things, people need to understand before making judgments on what Apple is intending to do. The obvious battery improvements will be made, and a possible, but not very possible change in the color factor. The Black will probably make a debut with the iPod 5Gs, but this is also debatable.

Bluetooth earphones etc are way out of line, as they require separate charging, this applies to wireless mumbo jumbo too.

Overall, Video is very possible, but very weak (both in distribution and sell-factor: music videos??? Puleeze. Even Trailers are pushing it). But as I said, a 5th Generation change is no laughing matter. And the competitors should be ever more scared of the oncoming onslaught of the Apple Division.
 
abhishake said:
Maybe the click wheel should be rotated... That would make it look like it's actually functional... it would be confusing otherwise..
Yeah, that's what I meant in my post. Rotated 90 dgrees CW.
 
BRLawyer said:
Sure, Krieg...but I wasn't even talking about the Mac OS...the GS/OS in the Apple IIGS (and also the GEOS in the Apple II) were better examples of UI in an OS...they had far more features and a much better organized view...the Workbench in the Amiga was pure crap, IMHO...but tastes differ, of course...

I dont think the user interface in GS/OS or GE/OS was better than in workbench 2.0-3.0, its a matter of personal taste, Workbench 2.0-3.0 certainly were more advanced in features than anything that was out at that time, most notably it was capable of multitasking... Also dont foget that at that time Apples average computer was at $5000-$7000 where Amigas were considerably cheaper and a lot faster
 
MontyZ said:
Would anyone actually buy these new Macs that are non-Intel? I guess we'll find out.

Anyone who needs a Mac now.

Anyone who understands that the current Macs are probably fast enough for their needs already.

Anyone who needs the fastest PowerMac available for the next couple of years. 970MP should toast Intel for some time to come.

Anyone who doesn't want to invest in replacing all their software as well as their hardware.

Anyone who doesn't want to beta test software for Apple and it's 3rd parties for the next 3 years.

Anyone who doesn't buy Rev A Apple hardware.
 
podfuture said:
My sources were good on the Nano. A little less info on this ipod video but hey, this is a rumor forum so we post what we have.


I think your steve jobs. You ahve to be right? Jk but you must have a prety good source any idea on a speed of hte pb's s
 
You have that completely backwards. And it'll be even more backwards if they release a dual 970MP based PowerMac. The current PowerMacs are generally faster than any Intel/AMD machine bar some of the latest Dual Opterons. 970MPs will toast those.

That's not true. PowerMacs aren't faster than Opteron's running XP 64-bit. With the exception of Nightflight, Opterons are faster in Photoshop, Lightwave, AE, Maya, every game, Cinebench and most real-world benchmarks. Dual Core A64's are even faster than dual opteron's. Even the Athlon X2 3800+ (2ghz) can tie or beat a 2.7ghz Powermac in Cinebench.

Apple is way behind at this point because dual core systems are selling very very cheap and giving much better performance than a PowerMac can (at a much higher price).
 
blitzkrieg79 said:
I dont think the user interface in GS/OS or GE/OS was better than in workbench 2.0-3.0, its a matter of personal taste, Workbench 2.0-3.0 certainly were more advanced in features than anything that was out at that time, most notably it was capable of multitasking... Also dont foget that at that time Apples average computer was at $5000-$7000 where Amigas were considerably cheaper and a lot faster

BRLawyer is just wrong about this and you are correct. It is not just personal opinion. The Amiga OS was way ahead of it's time and had one of the most innovative programming teams ever working on the project. Programing on the Amiga was a joy and it had more capabilities and features than any other machine/OS combo of it's time. AppleII GEOS was a pig, poorly implimented, and a major resource hog.

If Commodore had not mismanaged this line, they would be the dominent leader in WS class video effects, computer generated graphics, and 3D modeling.IMHO
:cool:
 
DTphonehome said:
These mock ups are cute, but I really wish whoever is making these would stop trying to come up with "Apple-esque" marketing slogans to go next to them. They just sound dumb. "Moving pictures, on the move"? Wow, I hope Donny Deutsch doesn't hear that and steal your wonderful slogan.
Sorry - but the price you have to pay for looking at my mockups is to read my corny straplines ;)
 
mddharma said:
That is what I'm starting to think as well, something BIG is in order! Hopefully they will update the Powerbooks (especially the 12") to make their place fit better into the line again.
yeah for the money im paying for my 12'' pb and a new ipod i better get video and a dual core g4.
 
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