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chuckles:) said:
Has anyone considered that apple might not be realeasing the wide screen super secret video ipod because it dosn't exist?

lets all think for a second...

1) touch screens are weak, soft, and matte, not iPod at all
2) they get printy and scratched very easily
3) they would go through oodles of batter power
4) Apple would not make the thing bigger just to hold the extra battery
5) battery life would STINK
6) touch screen starts to complicate the interface, goes against apple's easy as pie rule
7) the thing would have to cost a fortune

You're SO right about 1-5 and 7. I mean if touch screens were hard, shiny, battery efficient, and inexpensive then I'm sure game makers like Nintendo would have used them in handheld game systems like two years ago! And they would have priced it at like $150. But we know THAT will never happen. :rolleyes:

Oh, wait...
 
gradydds said:
Who the hell wants to watch movie on an iPod. You can't even watch 2 hours of video on the current iPod...think...the battery like will be even WORSE with a larger screen?!?!?:eek:

I want to watch a movie on an iPod. I have a video iPod that I use frequently and enjoy very much. I even watch movies on it. There are many, many people for varying reasons who want to and do watch movies on their iPod.

gradydds said:
I want a merom macbook pro...right now!!!!:mad: I might buy a freeken dell if i have to wait any longer...and I hate windows... I am hoping they will update it on the website tomorrow...tues. sept. 5th....not likely though since they will need a new logic boards because they soldered the core duo chips in...how stupid. Hopefully they will make some other updates since they have to re-do stuff anyway.

I also want a new C2D MBP. I can't wait to get one, and as soon as they're available, I'm there. But please, for the love of god and all things holy, if you don't have the patience to wait a while longer, go buy a Dell and relieve us of your tantrums.
 
TheKrillr said:
Update:Nope, still hasn't shipped. Darn me for custom ordering it... ;-)

Yeah, I first put an 80GB HD instead of the standard 60, and it wasn't due to ship until the end of the month. I completely forgot that customizing it would pust it way back. I immediately called Apple to cancel it. They said I was in luck as there usually weren't any people in to cancel orders at that time, but one guy happened to be in. Within a few minutes it was cancelled and I re-ordered it without customizing the Macbook nor iPod (engraving).

That phone call probably made sure my goods will arrive 2 weeks earlier than originally. Phew.

I too was hoping to get an upgraded iPod, but hey, no worries. My first iPod and I'm lovin it. Be nice if my MacBook comes with a Core 2 though >.> (wishful thinking)

If they upgrade the MBs substantially I will chew my bloody leg off. Don't get me wrong: while immensily enjoying my Core Duo Macbook. But still...
 
Seriously, i could care less about the wait...my computer works fine. I am currently using an Apple IIc...it kicks ass. I had to update it a bit to be able to use the internet though. Do you think i would be better to wait for the Santa Rosa platform to get a MBP? or just get the merom on the current.....and please don't say "if you keep waiting, there will always be something new around the corner and you will wait forever."
 
Chundles said:
So far I have yet to see an official confirmation from a reputable (read "not-rumour") web site.

The "confirmations" flying around all seem to be the rumour sites referencing each other.

Until I see iLounge or MacWorld get an invitation I won't be getting my hopes up for an secret-Apple-ninja-attack event.



Whilst I agree I am more hopeful given the density and consistency of the rumours. But we have been let down before, so tonight and a week from now will have me glued to the Mac in anticipation.
 
chuckles:) said:
Has anyone considered that apple might not be realeasing the wide screen super secret video ipod because it dosn't exist?

lets all think for a second...

1) touch screens are weak, soft, and matte, not iPod at all
2) they get printy and scratched very easily
3) they would go through oodles of batter power
4) Apple would not make the thing bigger just to hold the extra battery
5) battery life would STINK
6) touch screen starts to complicate the interface, goes against apple's easy as pie rule
7) the thing would have to cost a fortune

Logic has no place on the internet ;)

But seriously that is a good post, it's similar to points others have brought up during the last few months.
 
gradydds said:
Seriously, i could care less about the wait...my computer works fine. I am currently using an Apple IIc...it kicks ass. I had to update it a bit to be able to use the internet though. Do you think i would be better to wait for the Santa Rosa platform to get a MBP? or just get the merom on the current.....and please don't say "if you keep waiting, there will always be something new around the corner and you will wait forever."

I still have an Apple IIe somewhere is my house those computers seriously were cool when they were released how many years ago.

And you a right about putting off until the next update, I think most users forget about the "what do I really need?" question and concerntrate on the latest and greatest "next tuesday" release. I'm still using my G4 Mac Mini, it does everything I need but it doesn't have a Merom, Santa Rosa, etc and I am one happy Mac user.
 
back to school promotion question

Would the new iMac 23 inch qualify for the back to school promotion?
What about an 8 GB nano?

Of course, the promotion is very specific about models on Macs and iPods:
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/bts/bts_faq.html

Unless Apple makes a special exception, my guess is that neither model would qualify. The promotion rules specifically state 17 or 20 inch iMac, and 1, 2, or 4 GB nano. Check the FAQ about the promotion.

Any tips about this? Maybe I'll check with Apple directly by telephone, if a new iMac and new nano are actually introduced next week.
 
Interesting... I've been assuming the video store has been holding up the video iPod, but that doesn't appear to be the case...
 
Eraserhead said:
I wonder when new Macbooks/Macbook pros will come?

Strange, because everyone said that Apple would release the MB and MBPs on the 12th, but not all of a sudden it shifted to the iMac :confused:
 
Zwhaler said:
Strange, because everyone said that Apple would release the MB and MBPs on the 12th, but not all of a sudden it shifted to the iMac :confused:

iMacs are overdue. Sure if they can put the C2D in the MBPs great, but the iMacs got the G5 when the PBs only had the G4, so moving to a C2D should not be held back now its out.
 
zenntench_oni said:
nooo. im not gonna have enough money for another ipod.
dam it. oh wells. ill give myself a month to save up. . .

other than that. ill enjoy some tea that i make

Same here.:eek:
 
ChickenSwartz said:
I think Apple has really reached a fork in the road when it comes to the iPod.

Do they really want to start selling these things as vidoe players, not just music players that play video? If so, everyone knows they need a bigger screen and that is going to run up the price of the iPod.

So they have a choice:
(1) Introduce a true video iPod and ask more for it.
(2) Drop in bigger HDs into the current line.

The introduction of movie rentals might be a testing ground to see if people are really buying the idea. So if the iVideo Store (?) does well, this might indicate that people really want true, big scree video iPods. If it does so-so that might tell Apple that they should just keep the iPod primarilly a music player and the vidoe playback be an extra feature.

If they do introduce a more expensive, full screen iPod, they need a cheap[er], higher capacity only-music player too. This is where the Nano comes in. They need to be sure they have a good, well built, atractive line of Nanos for their customers that do not want to take the plunge to the video side.

The introduction of a new Nano and a video store but not a 6G iPod might indicate that they are stilling trying to decide which direction to take the 6G. I would say that if they do introduce the video store and a new Nano on the 12th a new iPod will be out before Christmas (no later that Thanksgiving, late November).

All this is based on the assumption that a true video iPod would cost more than the current line. I make this assumption based on the fact that they need bigger hard drives, bigger screens, and better battery. All these improvements are bound to increase the price.

I believe they'll just up the storage this time around. Then maybe in another year (or whenver most reasonable) they'll release a TRUE iPod video, and as for battery life - by this point would it be unreasonable to have a 16-32 GB flash-based iPod's? Sure that might be stepping on the nano's ground, but it would increase battery life and I'm sure they could offer a thicker HDD based model with 120 GB or something outrageous for those who need/want the storage, even if it means having a twice as thick iPod or something... I've read that it's possible that flash will drop to prices that a 32 GB iPod in a year isn't too unbelievable. Seeing that the Nano should double from 4-8 Gig's year over year, I would imagine another double 8-16 isn't too farfetched, and 32 a possibility at a higher price point.

Then again maybe increasing the ram or whatever chip that gives the 60 gig 5G iPod better battery life then the 30 gig may be enough in and of itself. But I have no idea... Just some thoughts though, rumor on friends.
 
Zwhaler said:
Strange, because everyone said that Apple would release the MB and MBPs on the 12th, but not all of a sudden it shifted to the iMac :confused:

I'm surprised we haven't started with those "New PowerBook Next Tuesday" rumors, they were fun.
 
I have been wanting to move from Windows to an Imac, but I was looking to join up with Apple finally moving to more competitive machines in terms of speed. With the Merom being Apple's choice instead of the more upgradeable Conroe I am wondering what we will all be thinking 6 or 8 months from now when Windows will be running on potentially 4 core machines while we are all stuck with 2 and no headroom. Probably not a concern for current Mac devotees that see the OS as plenty of reason to stick with Apple, but in my mind, instead of the first generation of "faster" Macs we may be buying into just another generation of Macs that run significantly behind the power curve.
I am not buying until I see what Apple does in January at Macworld. Remember the new G5 in October that was replaced by a Dual Core in January?
 
The thing that's frustrated me with Apple is the long wait for even minor product updates. The Merom update across the line should be a no brainer especially since the chip is more efficient and is easy to implement. Almost every other manufacturer announced Merom laptops already. Knowing Apple though, they'll just drag it out without mercy and only do the Merom updates in January for Macworld. In the meantime, we'll all be wondering if perhaps next week would be the right time to buy a new notebook because of some hot new rumor. Very frustrating. Now that Apple has switched to Intel, why not do chip updates without the fanfare that accompanied the minor PowerPC updates? :rolleyes:
 
typecase said:
The thing that's frustrated me with Apple is the long wait for even minor product updates. The Merom update across the line should be a no brainer especially since the chip is more efficient and is easy to implement. Almost every other manufacturer announced Merom laptops already. Knowing Apple though, they'll just drag it out without mercy and only do the Merom updates in January for Macworld. In the meantime, we'll all be wondering if perhaps next week would be the right time to buy a new notebook because of some hot new rumor. Very frustrating. Now that Apple has switched to Intel, why not do chip updates without the fanfare that accompanied the minor PowerPC updates? :rolleyes:
What long wait? Merom was just introduced last week, and nobody is shipping computers with Merom yet. Apple is moving away from just doing product refreshes at MWSF. In order to maximize media exposure, Apple has recently been upgrading a few products at a time (usually 2-3), but avoids introducing something on the same day as another manufacturer.

Apple will introduce Merom-based products this month, you can count on it.

After all, when was the last time AppleInsider and ThinkSecret agreed on anything? ;)
 
door4 said:
I have been wanting to move from Windows to an Imac, but I was looking to join up with Apple finally moving to more competitive machines in terms of speed. With the Merom being Apple's choice instead of the more upgradeable Conroe I am wondering what we will all be thinking 6 or 8 months from now when Windows will be running on potentially 4 core machines while we are all stuck with 2 and no headroom. Probably not a concern for current Mac devotees that see the OS as plenty of reason to stick with Apple, but in my mind, instead of the first generation of "faster" Macs we may be buying into just another generation of Macs that run significantly behind the power curve.
I am not buying until I see what Apple does in January at Macworld. Remember the new G5 in October that was replaced by a Dual Core in January?

I'm personally slanted towards Apple picking the Conroe because of the overall price, cheaper CPU and cheaper Chipset but then again it's kind of hard to second guess what Apple is doing....

If you need a new computer now I can't really see the point in holing off unitl Macworld because by the time the release comes around and shipping you are looking at the first or second week of Feb 07 before you are going to get anything.

Well that's my USD$0.02
 
HecubusPro said:
I want to watch a movie on an iPod. I have a video iPod that I use frequently and enjoy very much. I even watch movies on it. There are many, many people for varying reasons who want to and do watch movies on their iPod.


Ditto. I watch movies on my 5G when traveling, I may have to use a power adapter , but the result is not bad. Half of enjoying a movie is great sound and the Ipod gets it done. I would like a bigger screen on the next version, but I would much rather see a battery that can handle 6 hours of video without a recharge.
 
chuckles:) said:
Has anyone considered that apple might not be realeasing the wide screen super secret video ipod because it dosn't exist?

lets all think for a second...

1) touch screens are weak, soft, and matte, not iPod at all
2) they get printy and scratched very easily
3) they would go through oodles of batter power
4) Apple would not make the thing bigger just to hold the extra battery
5) battery life would STINK
6) touch screen starts to complicate the interface, goes against apple's easy as pie rule
7) the thing would have to cost a fortune

I have to disagree with 1, 2 and 6.
The screen on my palm (2 years old) is bright, clear and saturated. Gloss finish. Has no scratches yet I "write" on it and DO NOT use a screen protector or a case for it.

As to the interface, we've seen suggestions in the forums here that when touched, the interface that appears could look and act just like the current controls on the iPods.
 
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