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dan-o-mac said:
So the videos are not good enough resolution to watch on your TV. Can you atleast encode your own videos at a higher resolution suitable for TV? I really don't get it what's the point of video output if it's gonna look like crap?

I'm sure they will look ok on a standard old TV but they won't look good on an ED? or HD model and the one I downloaded looked horrible on my 12" Powerbook at 1024x768.
 
Squonk said:
Ok - Here goes...

Instead of the previously rumored nanoMadona in pink, I predict a standard size Madonna iPod in pink which includes:
1) The entire music catalog
2) The entire video catalog - have you noticed how many videos of hers are on the site already?
3) Engraved with her signature
4) Pink earbuds? Maybe?


Can I pay Apple $299 to not give me that skank's crap?? ;)

(Actually, I own the Immaculate Collection CD -- :) I admit.... but I need to cleanse myself with Motorhead twice if I ever play it.)
 
AmericanIdiot12 said:
this thing can play your own videos right? meaning the nonpurchased ones as long as its mpeg4

also i think its really gay that this thing doesnt come with the power brick

anyone wanna trade a 30 gb 5g and its power brick or an a/v cable for a psp value pack w/ t.h.u.g.2 and a 15 gb 3g ipod and an itrip?
Very nice work on his site! But, he still gotta work on his wording if he wants to pass off his awesome looking creations as future Apple pages (the "...high definition in the 15" and 17"..." sentence sounds awkward and too "casual conversation" like to be on a main page at Apple).
 
jettredmont said:
480x480 isn't a whole lot worse (on a non-LCD screen) than 720x480 (because vertical lines of resolutions on most sets are less than 720 in chrominance, although luminance is usually around there in recent sets).

Given that VHS is about 320x240 in resolution, and many people are still happy with that resolution, I don't think 480x480 is all that bad of a trade-off.

As for battery life: ever hear of a charger? I imagine if I was going to use my iPod for a night of movies I could afford the slight inconvenience of plugging the charger in!

All in all, I could certainly see myself plugging this in to a friend's TV set and sitting down to watch a few of my favorite movies or shows. "Could" because as of yet there's no way to get CSS-protected DVD data onto the iPod (without using gray-market DeCSS tools) and only two shows available that I'd be interested in seeing (and, frankly, I don't know anyone who's not already addicted to Lost and I'm not interested enough in DH to show it off to anyone).

Things will get a whole lot more interesting after this "test" project takes off and we get essentially the entire TV library on iTTVS, and/or the ability to rip DVDs to an iPod (which, as I've said before, is really just a matter of Apple getting the iPod certified as a CSS device and then licensing the CSS keys).

Most people are happy with VHS but VHS doesn't pixelate....These files will.
 
jettredmont said:
480x480 isn't a whole lot worse (on a non-LCD screen) than 720x480 (because vertical lines of resolutions on most sets are less than 720 in chrominance, although luminance is usually around there in recent sets).

Given that VHS is about 320x240 in resolution, and many people are still happy with that resolution, I don't think 480x480 is all that bad of a trade-off.

As for battery life: ever hear of a charger? I imagine if I was going to use my iPod for a night of movies I could afford the slight inconvenience of plugging the charger in!

All in all, I could certainly see myself plugging this in to a friend's TV set and sitting down to watch a few of my favorite movies or shows. "Could" because as of yet there's no way to get CSS-protected DVD data onto the iPod (without using gray-market DeCSS tools) and only two shows available that I'd be interested in seeing (and, frankly, I don't know anyone who's not already addicted to Lost and I'm not interested enough in DH to show it off to anyone).

Things will get a whole lot more interesting after this "test" project takes off and we get essentially the entire TV library on iTTVS, and/or the ability to rip DVDs to an iPod (which, as I've said before, is really just a matter of Apple getting the iPod certified as a CSS device and then licensing the CSS keys).

I don't think the MPAA will ever allow consumers to rip DVDs to iTunes. I haven't read the whole DMCA but I think that ripping digital content in any form is illegal for any purposes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
im not gonna look through 14 pages to find this, but has anyone noticed that the iPod no longer comes with FireWire? I recharge my current iPod through FireWire, can i also charge it with the USB cable? And is USB 2.0 just as fast as firewire, or what?
 
I was really excited when this was announced, now I'm not so sure. I was almost ready to sell my Nano till I read this -} 30GB: Up to 14 hours of music playback; up to 3 hours of slideshows with music; up to 2 hours of video playback :(
 
Peace said:
It IS very well done..
Here's the 17 year old kids homepage :)
http://homepage.mac.com/dzweben/design.html

"Here you can see samples of my work- various logos, websites and icons i've made. Some are in use for actual products, some are just made up designs. If you have any questions about anything on this page"
I guess in my zeal for a new PB, I failed to see the Radeon 9700 image next to the X800 description and the like. Gotta give the kid credit where credit is due though. Nice job!! :)
 
plastikimo said:
im not gonna look through 14 pages to find this, but has anyone noticed that the iPod no longer comes with FireWire? I recharge my current iPod through FireWire, can i also charge it with the USB cable? And is USB 2.0 just as fast as firewire, or what?

Yes you can charge through usb. usb 2.0 is a little slower than firewire.
 
dan-o-mac said:
Yes you can charge through usb. usb 2.0 is a little slower than firewire.
I thought USB 2.0 was faster than FireWire 400 but slower than FireWire 800? Correct me if I'm in error on that. :confused:
 
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

the death of the last feature languishing from the 1st Gen iPod - FireWire.

RIP.

:(
 
ddrueckhammer said:
I don't think the MPAA will ever allow consumers to rip DVDs to iTunes. I haven't read the whole DMCA but I think that ripping digital content in any form is illegal for any purposes. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Cracking the encrpytion is illegal, but there is another law that states you can legally make a backup of anything you own. It's a legal contradiction. It's not illegal to rip if it's used as a backup and you do not:
1) Run it in two places at once
2) Distribute it to others

However, it is not legal to crack the encryption.

If Apple made some deal with the movie companies I'm sure they'd allow Apple to write an app that rips DVD's and applies a DRM, however, I think the movie companies are too paranoid to do that.



Anyone know if the shows can be burned to a DVD or VCD?
 
Mr Maui said:
I thought USB 2.0 was faster than FireWire 400 but slower than FireWire 800? Correct me if I'm in error on that. :confused:


firewire has a wider bus. more data can flow through it at once. the quoted speeds are 480mbps (USB2) and 400mbps (FW400) but FireWire does run faster and more reliably. notice nobody's ever made a video camera with USB for editing - it's not good for that. and don't even think of using a USB2 hard drive as a scratch disk.

firewire 800 is double the speed of FW400 = 800mbps.
 
madmaxmedia said:
I agree. 8GB or 10GB would be the perfect Mini to slot between the Nano and iPod. I think they can do $249 (8GB) or $279 (10GB).

The iPod mini is dead. :p

Seriously, one thing that Apple learned from its mistakes in the 1990s was that too many options just confuse the general public. They had all kinds of different Mac models with overlapping features and no clear linear path from least to best. Several product lines with cryptic model numbers within each line, etc. Heck, it was confusing even for us techie people!

For several years now, there's always been a clear linear path from least to greatest. The laptops start with the lowest iBook, up to the best iBook, then the lowest 12" PowerBook, up to the best 17" PowerBook. There's a tiny bit of overlap between the best iBook and 12" PowerBook, but not much. Same on the desktop: Mac mini to iMac to PowerMac, with a few models of each.

They have 3 lines of iPods, with 2 models each. The progression in capacity and features is very linear, and thus very simple for the average consumer:

512 shuffle
1 gig shuffle
2 gig nano
4 gig nano
30 gig full/video
60 gig full/video

While I wouldn't mind 8/10 gig minis in there (and there is room with no overlap), I'll bet you anything Apple thinks this is the sweet spot. They're probably right. Many, many people don't have more than 4 GB of music, or don't care about taking more than that with them. Small physical size is more important to them, so they either go for a nano or a shuffle. For those who do care about capacity, the full iPod is bigger, yes, but it gives you so much more room for just a little more money. How can you go wrong?
 
bankshot said:
The iPod mini is dead. :p


While I wouldn't mind 8/10 gig minis in there (and there is room with no overlap), I'll bet you anything Apple thinks this is the sweet spot. They're probably right. Many, many people don't have more than 4 GB of music, or don't care about taking more than that with them. Small physical size is more important to them, so they either go for a nano or a shuffle. For those who do care about capacity, the full iPod is bigger, yes, but it gives you so much more room for just a little more money. How can you go wrong?

Well, I don't think 1 more iPod would be too cryptic. ;)

But actually I do agree with you. Especially since the new iPods are much thinner than before...there's little incentive to get a $279 iPod Mini over a $299 iPod.
 
well i did read throught almost all 14 pages on this topic, and i would now like to post what i tried to do when it was only 2 page (but the server was slammed).

LACK of firewire, no matter if because of peecee is LAME, you can not longer use your ipod to boot off. how much more cost would it have been for add this... pennies, mere pennies.

2nd: MISSING of the extra port (i don't know the name) next to the headphone jack KILLS many extra's that were developed...hmmm no more wired remote...

3rd: Form factor, doesn't this also kill many aftermarket devices like the new numark??

<<<NEVERMIND #3, it is the same size, dispite the wider screen>>>
 

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madmaxmedia said:
Why? It completely depends on the bitrate. MPEG4 and h264 are very efficient, and 60GB is a lot of space...

The bitrate is 128kbps on these. They will look fine on traditional TVs and the iPods screen but on ED/HD TVs via the s-video dock I don't think they will look too good. They certainly look like **** on my powerbook full screen at 1024x768. I want to be able to fill up my two external drives with 800x600 content from the ITMS at $1.99 per show for TV and $14.99 for new release feature films and stream them via 802.11n to my airport express video which will be connected to my HD plasma when it comes out. I have been dreaming of this since I first started using Netflix. The technology is here but I'm afraid that the content companies will be too greedy to let this happen...
 
The next person to say "No FireWire! AAAAAAAHH!" is going to put me over the edge.

The iPod still supports FireWire.

LOOK! You can buy a FireWire cable from the Apple Store for $19.00!

"Compatible with iPod models with dock connector, except iPod nano."
 
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