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New iPods - Video Support, TV Episodes, Music Videos

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hulugu said:
Really, the Apple website shows the firewire cables and dock connectors, but shows only the iPod Color as the system that use it, which led me to wonder why the 5G iPod wouldn't be able to just send the data via the dock connector and who cares what the other end is like?
I will have to go to the Apple Store and demand a demonstration! :D
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Because all the new iPods (5G, nano and shuffle) do not have the firewire hardware in them, only USB 2.0

So it does matter what shape the plug is on the end of the dock cable, you can use firewire to charge (very easy to route the power from the firewire cable) but you cannot send data over it cause the hardware to do it just isn't there.
 
madmaxmedia said:
ffmpegx (just google it)
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Or just go directly to Mark Pilgrim's HOWTO Put Porn On Your iPod tutorial.

DavidCar said:
ElGato's website says they can export to "any format that QuickTime supports, such as MPEG-4 or DV" so I assume that this now includes H.264.
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That info was written before QuickTime supported H.264. EyeHome doesn't support it and I think newer hardware would be required, not just a firmware/software upgrade.

[edit: I mistakenly thought you were talking about EyeHome, not EyeTV. Yep, EyeTV can export to H.264, as blybug mentioned.]

nagromme said:
Thanks. I'm waiting and seeing on EVERY front--H.264 included. I want to go HD, PVR, the works... but nothing is standardized to the point where I feel confident buying. (Of course, BD vs. HD-DVD is a big aspect.)
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Knowing I wouldn't be migrating to HD for awhile, the necessity for wireless audio/video streaming to minimize living room cable clutter, and sensible budget considerations were reasons I decided to get EyeTV, EyeHome, and AirPort Express when I did. I'd rather get the most from what I have instead of having more than I can fully appreciate and that's how I've felt about this.

So I'm using rabbit ears on a TV you tune using a column of tiny wheels :eek:
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Sounds like some of the analog cable TV reception here. ;)
 
I just bought the 30GB iPod (white) :)
I'm just debating whether I should have got the black instead... :(
 
This Firewire-elimination is a bummer for me since my iBook only supports USB 1.1 (and I cannot afford a new computer at this moment).

Is there a firewire / usb converter out there so I can route usb connection over a firewire connection?

It's sort of disappointing to think that Apple wanted to originally put-forth Firewire as a "standard", yet is pulling away due to probable PC-USB majorities.
 
mflat5 said:
This Firewire-elimination is a bummer for me since my iBook only supports USB 1.1 (and I cannot afford a new computer at this moment).

Is there a firewire / usb converter out there so I can route usb connection over a firewire connection?

It's sort of disappointing to think that Apple wanted to originally put-forth Firewire as a "standard", yet is pulling away due to probable PC-USB majorities.
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what the?!? This is the first i've read about them not supporting firewire....that's bull donkey. i don't want to have to buy a new computer becaues i want a new ipod! My TiBook is just fine!!! dammit....
 
An acquaintance is beta testing a DJ version of the iPod with pitch control (how could Numark be so stupid as to not include it on the mixer? they knew this was coming). He says Apple will announce it next month. Is this new or valuable information? Or do you all know this already? I don't follow the rumour scene, briefly thumbed and searched, found nothing about it.
 
hi guys newbie here,


I just read someone in the thread talking about using HandBrake to get the H.264 320x240 resolution.

Any program for Windows?
(sorry in advance if this was already discussed)


Thanks.
 
Lopes said:
what the?!? This is the first i've read about them not supporting firewire....that's bull donkey. i don't want to have to buy a new computer becaues i want a new ipod! My TiBook is just fine!!! dammit....
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Yea this sucks... :(

My eMac has only USB 1.1, so it would take ages to fill iPod...
 
fact is, theres only about one in every 25 ipod users who only have firewire and no USB2, maybe even less. all the PC people use usb, most mac people have both, theres only a few of us who are stuck with FW and USB1.1. It sucks, but Apple is a company seeking a profit. If it were any other feature that reached only 1 in 25 people, and it took more space and more money, you'd think they were crazy to put it in, but because it will slow you down it hurts.
 
I already have the 60GB iPod...bought it in Dec. 2004, about 5 weeks before Apple lowered the price from $600 to $450. Ouch. Not interested in the new iPod until it gets bumped to 80GB or more and has internal blueooth for headphones. I'm up to 52GB at the moment and will soon be feeling the pinch. Video sounds cool but more space sounds even better.

chaos86 said:
fact is, theres only about one in every 25 ipod users who only have firewire and no USB2, maybe even less. all the PC people use usb, most mac people have both, theres only a few of us who are stuck with FW and USB1.1. It sucks, but Apple is a company seeking a profit. If it were any other feature that reached only 1 in 25 people, and it took more space and more money, you'd think they were crazy to put it in, but because it will slow you down it hurts.
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Yeah, I'm one of those people...it sucks to be me but I understand where Apple is coming from and am not really bitter. I have Firewire 400 on my Pismo but USB 1.1, and boy does it suck when I'm transferring a lot to/from my 2gb flash drive. But on a nearly five-year old computer you don't really have any room to complain--what peecee could you be using happily five years out? God bles the pismo. My wife wants a nano, but her laptop pc (I know, I'm wokring on her but I don't think she'll ever switch) also has firewire (4-pin however) and USB 1.1. I don't know how she'd get it to work very well. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple killed Firewire 400 with the move to Intel and just offered USB2 and Firewire800 ports, since on paper USB2 outperforms Firewire400. It would still suck though, because my own few experiences with USB2 on other people's computers had it running significantly slower than 480, even slower than 400. But what can you do. I'll be getting a new PB if this update ever materializes, then I'll be in USB2 land.
 
I rarely post on these forums, but since I have been thinking of nothing else but the new ipods the last couple days and having actually read through all 21 frickin pages of this thread, I thought I would add my 2 cents.
My current 4G 40 gig ipod has less than 1 gig of free space and I need to upgrade. When the new video-capable pods were released I was practically pissing down my leg, I even stopped by the local apple store with $500 in my pocket. I love the black ipods, I think they are so sexy and would match my car interior perfectly. I would have to paint my belkin ipod dock after getting a black one, perhaps a thread should be started on the best way to paint the various accessories we all have.

I think that the new pods are a great product and a good business move for apple. Obviously the quality and format of the video and itms offerings aren't the best, but they are really just extras to what is still a fabolous MUSIC player. I'm sure that these problems will be addressed in the future when apple develops a dedicated video product. If you don't like the video stuff, don't buy it! The current content is really all about convenience. Compare it to shopping for food at gas stations, it's ok for candy bars and such when you're in a hurry, but it's still not the place where you buy the bulk of your groceries. Video on our computers and ipods is cool, but most of us will still enjoy the best quality experience in the living room for the time being.

Having said that, I have decided to upgrade to the old 60 gig color ipod instead of the new one, I'll save a little money and wait for the next generation. I've been buying a new one every year and will continue to do so. Eventually I'd like to have 2 ipods, one large one that holds all my media and acts as the backup for my computer, and a small nano for working out, etc.

The firewire issues that everyone has been gripping about would be an annoyance, but it isn't the end of the world. I am not sure if my emac is equipped with the 2.0 ports or not, but I am planning on purchasing the new 20" iMac within the next 6 months. After the initial trasfer of files to the new ipod (I'll do it overnight), the routine ipod updating would not be signifcantly longer.

The main reason that I won't buy the new ipod is the lack of the connection for the wired remote and other accessories. My ipod spends 95% percent of it's time in either my car dock, or in my backpack in conjunction with the wired remote that is connected to one of the shoulder straps. I am very happy with this setup, I can change everything except playlists while I am on my bike or on the go. My only hope is that this issue will be addressed by apple in some form or another in the future.
 
Hi, yes I'm bored so I thought I'd try and see how the screens compare between my 3G iPod and the new 5G iPod.

This is pretty much to scale, I drew it with a ruler so it's not totally accurate, I also Photoshopped out the sharp corners on the outside.

It shows how the new screen fits into the same form factor.

The Blue stripes are the new screen, the Red stripes are the old. The position of the 5G screen is I imagine pretty accurate however the 3G screen is a little lower in the drawing than it is in real life.

Pretty stunning how they fit the new screen in, the increase in resolution is pretty damned cool too, the 5G screen is twice the res of the old 3G one.

Carn Christmas....
 

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Chundles said:
Hi, yes I'm bored so I thought I'd try and see how the screens compare between my 3G iPod and the new 5G iPod.

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Pretty stunning how they fit the new screen in, the increase in resolution is pretty damned cool too, the 5G screen is twice the res of the old 3G one.
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very nice job. i did something similar: I rescaled one of the PR shots of the new iPod so that its size on my screen was the same as my 3G iPod and sort of compared the two by eye. Your idea is better. Maybe I could dig through my library and find a picture of the old iPod and layer the new one on top with a little transparency. That would be cool....
 

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physics_gopher said:
very nice job. i did something similar: I rescaled one of the PR shots of the new iPod so that its size on my screen was the same as my 3G iPod and sort of compared the two by eye. Your idea is better. Maybe I could dig through my library and find a picture of the old iPod and layer the new one on top with a little transparency. That would be cool....
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I just did this, comparing the 5G and the iPod Photo. It's fairly accurate.

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shipped

I ordered the 60G and the dock after the introduction (the 12th) and I just got a notice that 60G shipped today. The dock is backordered.
 
TMay said:
I ordered the 60G and the dock after the introduction (the 12th) and I just got a notice that 60G shipped today. The dock is backordered.
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Wow. Congratulations. Makes me wish I had ordered from Apple direct. Hope you enjoy it! Share some pictures.

Did you get the white or black? I have a terrible time deciding on the color.
 
TMay said:
I ordered the 60G and the dock after the introduction (the 12th) and I just got a notice that 60G shipped today. The dock is backordered.
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Details... black / white / personalized / when after the announcement?

Mine was a white 60gb personalized orderd on the evening of the 12th and I have not gotten notification of shipment yet.
 
snowmoon said:
Details... black / white / personalized / when after the announcement?

I ordered about noon, as it was difficult to complete the transaction, received the order notice from Apple's email processor at 4:32 PDT on the 12th.

I ordered white, as it was more scratch resistant to my thinking, not personalized (in case there is a mega pod next year). My 1G Shuffle is white, as is my 4 G Nano (I got that a couple of weeks ago from friends for helping on a project). I tried driving with the nano, but, it's too dangerous (you want to look at it), so, I'm back to the shuffle (with etymotic ER-4p earphones).

For the record, there's a long stretch of freeway between Carson City and Reno, so I revert to radio when it starts getting crowded.

Were that I had saved up this quick delivery for a PowerMac Dual Duo...

I bought the 3 nightstalker episodes and I watched them on a 19 inch lcd. The quality isn't an issue for me and reminds me of a standard terrestrial network broadcast. I will let you know how it plays on the ipod.

Also, i downloaded Handbrake, but, it isn't optimized yet for ipod use, so I don't know if I'll be able to process my own dvd source directly to that format.
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fklehman said:
Yeah, I'm one of those people...it sucks to be me but I understand where Apple is coming from and am not really bitter. I have Firewire 400 on my Pismo but USB 1.1, and boy does it suck when I'm transferring a lot to/from my 2gb flash drive. But on a nearly five-year old computer you don't really have any room to complain--what peecee could you be using happily five years out? God bles the pismo.
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I still use my Dell XPS T450 from 1999 - 449MHz P3, 384MB ram - it actually runs very well, I take good care of it. Six year old peecee and my brand new 1.67GHz PowerBook run side by side :)
 
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