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and for all you visualizer haters who are quickly to deem them as useless... there's this little thing called ambience...

i would really love to see a thread on here if apple removed visualizer from iTunes for leopard... it'd be all "omg why!? i loved it" and "apple is so going downhill" (negative rating: 523, positive rating: 43)

it's something new, it's an improvement... just accept it and get over it...
 
Why isn't this on page 2?

Its not very news worthy... new pretty graphics when music plays in iTunes!
 
When I'm in a really good mood and the once in a blue moon I want to chill out, relax and think about things, I will use visualizers. I am not a stoner nor do I use drugs. ^.^

They are great for parties too, though! Especially when you're playing a board game or something and want music in the background and something pretty to look at when it's not your turn ;P
 
Hmm, as much as I like visualiser thingies (and use them occasionally).. Leopard* seems to be going against a lot of Apple's previous mindset. They had a framework for vis, but they intentionally didn't include choices to keep things simple. Its not like they couldn't have *always* included loads more plugins and presets, they use up basically no space and they're not that hard to create. (or buy off people who've already made them)

It feels like.. "Ahh crap, did we really say 200 new features? What can we add now." .. Sticking everything but the kitchen sink in is all very well and does sort of add value.. We'll see.

Screensavers, Vis, desktops - boring and superficial.. There are already tons of plugins you could use in iTunes.. I don't really see why Apple's including some now. Odd.

* I assume these Vis will work their way into all the other osX/windows iTunes' anyway, so the leopard part isn't an issue.
 
I don't know why people are voting negative.

But I do know that I enjoy that we have a rating/feedback system. It is not something concrete that you could use as statistics or evidence for something, but its still a way to have some sort of community interaction. Plus, you can tell more about users reactions to stories before heading on into the forum discussion.

So why are people voting negative on the rating system?


I voted negative because these visualizers look lame in comparison to Milkdrop. Milkdrop owns all.

http://projectm.sourceforge.net/
 
Well, woopeedoo!

I presume these must be more of the "…top secret features that we're keeping close to the chest."* :rolleyes:




*Steve Jobs, WWDC 2006, in case anyone needs reminding…
 
Well, woopeedoo!

I presume these must be more of the "…top secret features that we're keeping close to the chest."* :rolleyes:




*Steve Jobs, WWDC 2006, in case anyone needs reminding…

The expression is vest, not chest :rolleyes: and those features would be everything announced after that thing, like the new finder, the new dock, the new menu bar, quicklook, etc. So it is quite a bit. Honestly, what were you people expecting?
 
and for all you visualizer haters who are quickly to deem them as useless... there's this little thing called ambience...

i would really love to see a thread on here if apple removed visualizer from iTunes for leopard... it'd be all "omg why!? i loved it" and "apple is so going downhill" (negative rating: 523, positive rating: 43)

it's something new, it's an improvement... just accept it and get over it...

Not a visualizer hater just won't use it. Don't get all bent over nothing. :rolleyes:
 
I just can't see...

...that I will ever be over or underwhelmed by new iTunes visualizers.

Complete ambivalence.
 
They are great for parties too, though! Especially when you're playing a board game or something and want music in the background and something pretty to look at when it's not your turn ;P

Hmm. Maybe you need to go to parties w/ hotter chicks.
 
It's so funny that people are talking about how lame the visualizers are and what' the point of having them in iTunes but this thread has grown quite big.:D
 
I just read through this whole thread and found it quite amusing. Every 15 posts or so someone chimes in and says "does anyone actually use visualizers"?

Then the rest of the posts are all about all the different ways people do, indeed, use visualizers. But still we get the "does anyone use these things?" comments.

I don't use visualizers much, but I think they're kind of cool. And it's interesting to hear about how people use them. Even more interesting to see the cognitive dissonance from people who don't use them.

Maybe this will help them get a clue:

HELLO! JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE A FEATURE DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE DOESN'T USE IT.
 
Forget visualizers in iTunes... Its overrated. Who, when on their computer, listens to music and stares at visuallizers? Not many people! When at your computer, you may be working while you listen to music!

However, I would love to see visualizers in a different area... Such as the iPhone, Apple TV and the iPod touch. That's where I think it would be cool, and practical.
 
I haven't used Visualizers since my old PC and WinAmp days, as I always found them not "real" or accurate enough with respect to their timing and reflection of the music being played. I'm sure they've come a long way, so perhaps once I get Leopard and my new MacBook Pro I'll give these a try just for fun. ;)

You should try Fountain music. It is pretty accurate and I like it a lot.
 
HELLO! JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE A FEATURE DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE DOESN'T USE IT.
I agree with you on this. I personally seldom use the visualizer in iTunes, but it is great for parties, and I have occasionally gotten "lost" in it as well.

However, what I'm seeing in this thread is some pent-up frustration about Apple's priorities, especially this year. Leopard is already delayed, and visualizer tweaks can be delivered at any time - not necessarily for the Leopard Gold Master.

Likewise, the iPhone has consumed an enormous amount of Apple's resources this year. And yet, when folks want to do something very simple like making their own custom ringtones with their own music *without* having to pay for them, Apple goes out of it's way to make this difficult.

So, when these types of features are profiled, it's kind of like Apple saying, "yeah, go ahead and have fun with our stuff, but do it on our terms and not yours. Oh, and BTW, Leopard is being delayed again." Especially since they've got what, two weeks, to get it to Gold Master?

I voted negative on this thread for these reasons. I also have a sneaking suspicion that when Leopard is released into the wild, it's going to be buggy as hell - even more so than 10.4.0 and especially for folks upgrading from Tiger. So, when Apple has already admitted that something that wasn't part of its core operations until just this year, the iPhone, has delayed something that is, Leopard, to me, adding new and improved visualizers to iTunes suddenly becomes much less substantial when Apple is already playing catchup on Leopard as a whole.
 
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