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New iTunes Visualizers in Leopard

arkitect said:
Actually that was a direct quote… :) I didn't make it up you know. :rolleyes:

Oh it's not that I am disappointed — but it is just funny to see how Apple/Steve Jobs hyped up the release…
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Look, I'm not one to nitpick, and while I think Leopard is a stellar OS upgrade, I do have to agree that they have dropped the ball on it in a few ways. The lack of "Fast OS Switching" and dropping "Resolution Independence" after Jobs has been hyping it up for so long, it seems Apple has bitten off more than they can chew this year. As Jobs said they had to delay Leopard because of moving people from the Leopard to the iPhone team, most of the really cool features have been slowly dropped with each beta seed as they can not fine tune them before October. Personally, I'd rather Apple take some extra time to get those features out with the final release than wait until 10.6, it's not as though Tiger is an unstable OS that we need Leopard ASAP.
 
omatic said:
Who cares about some dumb visualizers? When am I going to hear more about resolution independence, that which was such a popular topic months ago and still is one of the big deal-breakers for me when thinking about Leopard?
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May I ask why?

Do you have a 200/300dpi monitor sitting on your desk. If so, then fair enough.

When monitors start getting into the 200-300dpi range then it will be important and by then Apple will be ready.

Tiger has partial support for Res Independence and Leopard takes this further.
 
Just release Leopard already! I'm so sick of waiting.

I just hope they unify the scroll bars before they do.
 
FoxyKaye said:
Oh, and BTW, Leopard is being delayed again." Especially since they've got what, two weeks, to get it to Gold Master?

I voted negative on this thread for these reasons. I also have a sneaking suspicion that when Leopard is released into the wild, it's going to be buggy as hell.
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I think you haven't been reading up on the latest release. It's very stable and the developers are quite happy with the latest changes.
It's unfortunate that you don't really SEE what's happening here. You say that Leopard is being delayed again? Just think about it, if Apple is now putting out tweaks to iTunes for Leopard with such simple stuff like the visualizers then that means that they are done with Leopard and it's ready to go.

Also this is a multi-billion dollar company, they can press DVD's for Leopard and create the packaging and have it shipped to the retail stores in one day if necessary.
 
elppa said:
May I ask why?

Do you have a 200/300dpi monitor sitting on your desk. If so, then fair enough.

When monitors start getting into the 200-300dpi range then it will be important and by then Apple will be ready.

Tiger has partial support for Res Independence and Leopard takes this further.
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the menubar app icons (volume, airport etc) are pdfs in leopard. in tiger they're tiffs.
 
Nice to see that something as trivial as an iTunes visualizer can create buzz. It's nice and all, but seriously, who in their right mind would think that cutting this from the Windows version is a good thing? It may seem trivial to add it on, but it could potentially draw a good amount of flack from Windows users that would like to know why they did that in the first place, then come to the obvious conclusion that they're trying to give the Winusers the short end of the stick, even if a very insignificant one. :rolleyes:

Eh well, I think my lava lamp and drunk spider youtube videos will do me just fine for those *ahem* stoner moments.
 
Maccus Aurelius said:
Nice to see that something as trivial as an iTunes visualizer can create buzz. It's nice and all, but seriously, who in their right mind would think that cutting this from the Windows version is a good thing? It may seem trivial to add it on, but it could potentially draw a good amount of flack from Windows users that would like to know why they did that in the first place, then come to the obvious conclusion that they're trying to give the Winusers the short end of the stick, even if a very insignificant one. :rolleyes:

Eh well, I think my lava lamp and drunk spider youtube videos will do me just fine for those *ahem* stoner moments.
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Wow, your argument is REALLY one sided. The Mac community takes this crap from the software giant of Microsoft every year. There hasn't been a piece of software from Microsoft made for the Mac that wasn't done better on Windows. There are some key features in Office that Mac users need and Microsoft refuses to include them in order to keep Macs out of the corporate world now isn't that a slap in the face and you are just trippin' over some stupid visualizer not being included in Windows, give me a break.
 
I'm a very infrequent poster to these forums, but I visit MacRumors all the time and while I usually lurk on the discussions, I felt like chiming in here.

I personally love the standard iTunes visualizer. It's definitely not something I use on a daily basis, but every once in awhile I like just listening to music to relax while not doing anything else, and the iTunes Visualizer is great for that. So I was excited when I saw this; however, after seeing the video someone posted, I was somewhat underwhelmed . I know it's hard to get an idea with a video capture that jumpy and the real thing would be much smoother, but from what I saw nothing looked nearly as good as the standard iTunes visualizer. Jelly looked the most interesting from the single screenshot in the original MR story, but it looked less exciting than I imagined in the video.

Can someone with Leopard report whether these visualizers are more customizable than they seemed in the video? They seemed awfully static compared to the literally hundreds of possible combinations in the original visualizer. As long as they don't get rid of the original "classic" iTunes visualizer, I'm good.

Still can't wait till Leopard. :)

Adam

Edit: Just realized I'm still considered a "macrumors newbie" when I joined the forums back in 2003. I've really got to post more, LOL. :)

Also, just thought I'd throw in my take on positive/negative voting. It's a decent way of seeing the overall opinion of general Mac users on a news story or rumor, but seriously I don't know what some people are thinking when they rate a story negative that I cannot possibly envision as being negative. I think people shouldn't vote unless they really have an opinion one way or another; I suspect a lot of people simply vote negative because they're ambivalent about a feature, or it doesn't affect them (i.e. "not another iPhone story/rumor!) Unless someone has a real opinion one way or another, they shouldn't bother voting on the story.
 
If Gold Master is a final complete ready-to-be-released copy that cannot be changed, what's the point of making it at all? Just something to send to the Developers so they get Leopard a little earlier than everyone else. Surely it doesn't take more than a couple of days to mass produce a few hundred thousand DVDs.

Surely if Apple is really hard pressed for time (which they clearly are not, seeing as the only real problem remaining seems to be some Archive and Install issue on PPCs) they could just skip this stage, and begin selling them immediately upon the completion of a "gold master". Even if they are sold without a stockpile, on a "you'll get it when we get more stock in" basis.

"Gold Master" seems like a pointless waste of a month to me.
 
FoxyKaye said:
I agree with you on this. I personally seldom use the visualizer in iTunes, but it is great for parties, and I have occasionally gotten "lost" in it as well.

However, what I'm seeing in this thread is some pent-up frustration about Apple's priorities, especially this year. Leopard is already delayed, and visualizer tweaks can be delivered at any time - not necessarily for the Leopard Gold Master.

Likewise, the iPhone has consumed an enormous amount of Apple's resources this year. And yet, when folks want to do something very simple like making their own custom ringtones with their own music *without* having to pay for them, Apple goes out of it's way to make this difficult.

So, when these types of features are profiled, it's kind of like Apple saying, "yeah, go ahead and have fun with our stuff, but do it on our terms and not yours. Oh, and BTW, Leopard is being delayed again." Especially since they've got what, two weeks, to get it to Gold Master?

I voted negative on this thread for these reasons. I also have a sneaking suspicion that when Leopard is released into the wild, it's going to be buggy as hell - even more so than 10.4.0 and especially for folks upgrading from Tiger. So, when Apple has already admitted that something that wasn't part of its core operations until just this year, the iPhone, has delayed something that is, Leopard, to me, adding new and improved visualizers to iTunes suddenly becomes much less substantial when Apple is already playing catchup on Leopard as a whole.
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Well said and to the point.
 
I like these new visualizers. Though they are more "icing on the cake". This isn't a deal make or break thing.

I use visualizers a lot. When I'm just working around the apartment I turn it on. Reminds me of a lava lamp. It doesn't do hurt to turn it on unless your epileptic(I assume). It is a mood/atmosphere thing for me.

It isn't made for staring at while sitting in front of a computer doing nothing. That is worse than sitting in front of a TV.

Scott
 
offwidafairies said:
i cant believe this is still the latest rumor
when will we get a leopard date?
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This is a rumour site, so post a rumour: Perhaps, a blurred photo of a box with an Apple logo on it, in an elevator, you never know - it may be put on Page 2 or even the front page ;)
 
iTunes missing a feature

They should make it possible that you can use video/visualizer in the same full screen.

So while having the visualizer mode on, if iTunes has a video as next song it will just show the video.

And the ability to choose the visualizer yourself (or enable disable them)
 
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