New Lockdown Measures Close All Remaining Apple Stores in the UK

[neilmacd]

Interested in your reasoning here are as I am currently debating between an 8GB and 16GB MacBook Air. Was there something specific that made you decide 8GB wasn't enough?

I’d spent a lot of time reading into it and although I wanted 16Gb, I convinced myself 8Gb would be enough. The final decision came down to how quickly I’d be able to get hold of one.

I work in Illustrator/inDesign/Photoshop /Lightroom and although it copes with it, it’s swapping more than I’d like and I end up spending too much time looking at activity monitor.

That’s now, I’m concerned how it’ll cope a year or 2 from now.

In hindsight I should have been more patient and just waited a month for a 16Gb model.

 

[msp3]

Funny how the coronavirus was weaponized and used by left-wing Democrats to oppress people in the United States, but the UK national government run by the right plays exactly the same game. When George Bush had a right-wing war on Iraq, Tony Blair sold his as a left-wing one...

Once you buy into the media and government propaganda, it will never be allowed it to end. It’s a cold and flu so naturally it changes quickly over and over. The government also gets to oppress you over and over, no amount of kowtowing will make them stop, the people in power gets off even from your groveling and submission. The saddest spectacle of all are the mindless begging for even more oppression

 

[kahkityoong]

"much of its population's lack of character and stupidity."

I can smell your arrogance from here.

Masses of people not wearing masks because they’re too entitled and selfish to protect their fellow citizens or just being ignorant is arrogance? That’s just gross behaviour and shows how far society in US has sunk. Calling it as I see it.

 

[seek3r]

This must be satire. UK’s failure has been due to their government’s response. On the other hand, USA’s deplorable situation is due to both the government and much of its population’s lack of character and stupidity. You’re like a school kid trying to make excuses for why he got an F. 352,000 deaths and one of the highest deaths per 100,000 population in the world are not what I would call an excellent response. Or maybe you just have lower standards? In any case UK and USA travellers are not welcome in many parts of the world. That’s not because you’re doing so well 😉

Am American, can confirm, we're handling this terribly. Hoping things get better on a Federal level at the end of Jan, at least we'll have folks who listen to doctors and scientists in charge again in the White House (depending on the outcome of today's elections in Georgia maybe both houses of Congress as well)

 

[kahkityoong]

Funny how the coronavirus was weaponized and used by left-wing Democrats to oppress people in the United States, but the UK national government run by the right plays exactly the same game. When George Bush had a right-wing war on Iraq, Tony Blair sold his as a left-wing one...

Once you buy into the media and government propaganda, it will never be allowed it to end. It’s a cold and flu so naturally it changes quickly over and over. The government also gets to oppress you over and over, no amount of kowtowing will make them stop, the people in power gets off even from your groveling and submission. The saddest spectacle of all are the mindless begging for even more oppression

Funny how just about every other country has done a better job to control the spread and death rate? Mindless ignorance like yours is why Americans continue to die in droves.

 

[Phil A.]

And how many of the 830 UK Covid deaths that were announced today do you think were actually "run over"?

Hint: there are about 1800 road traffic deaths annually in the UK, of which (in 2019) 23% involved pedestrians. So 414 people "run over" each year, or about 1.1 per day.

Even if 1 or 2 of those 830 deaths were in fact "run over", its a very small number compared to those who are dying of the disease.

It’s probably a statistically insignificant number (as will be the people who die more than 28 days after contracting the disease and which artificially lower the figures). I mentioned both simply in the interests of accuracy, not as an attempt to downplay the seriousness of what’s happening

 

[Apple_Robert]

Lives first, then buy Apple products in a physical store.
Sounds logic.

One thing Apple does well is look out for their people.

 

[dampfnudel]

Apple seems to completely close it’s UK stores during lockdowns. This is different to most other major retailers, which still allow “click & collect” pickup of online orders.

No Apple repair services either, which is considered an essential service and explicitly allowed under lockdown rules.

It looks like Apple doesn’t want to risk the health of employees, even for repairs. I would probably feel differently if I needed a repair ASAP and my local store(s) were closed, but since I don’t, I applaud Apple’s decision.

 

[hot-gril]

Oh No! My new iPhone 12 Pro has a yellow screen. How am I ever going to get this fixed?! What is going to happen to my Genius Bar appointment? This is the most important thing in my life right now!

I left my iPhone in the car by accident a day ago, still haven't retrieved it. Don't feel like taking the car cover off.

 

[hot-gril]

UK’s response has been terrible. Too slow and too soft. But the worst thing is not to learn from the previous mistakes. Still it’s better than USA’s outright negligence.

Sometimes I'm not so upset about the USA's status because every country is doing poorly, then I remember the advantage we squandered. We had 1 or 3 months where the virus had already proven destructive in Asia and Europe but hadn't reached us yet.

 

[seek3r]

Sometimes I'm not so upset about the USA's status because every country is doing poorly, then I remember the advantage we squandered. We had 1 or 3 months where the virus had already proven destructive in Asia and Europe but hadn't reached us yet.

Not to mention we're the richest country in the world and on things we like spending money on we either do it well or throw so much money at it that even done poorly it works, it's pathetic, we can coordinate the most powerful military the world has ever seen but we can't manage a coherent epidemic response? ugh

 

[cmwade77]

As an aside, I understand it's difficult to determine the cause of death sometimes - especially for those who die outside of a hospital or care home - but the UK is counting deaths within 28 days of a positive test (as are many other countries). That includes everyone who tests positive then gets hit by a bus within 28 days. 28 days is an arbitrary number. Could've been 14, 21, 50... The numbers of deaths are arbitrary. Still frighteningly high, but that's the fault of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson's useless government and ministers.

And this is the problem, the numbers simply aren't accurate, I mean someone tests positive, gets kicked in the head by a horse and the cause of death is listed as COVID (yep, that happened here in the U.S.). Clearly COVID had NOTHING to do with the death, yet it is listed on the death certificate as not a contributing factor, but the actual cause of death. This isn't tricky to figure out.

 

[kahkityoong]

And this is the problem, the numbers simply aren't accurate, I mean someone tests positive, gets kicked in the head by a horse and the cause of death is listed as COVID (yep, that happened here in the U.S.). Clearly COVID had NOTHING to do with the death, yet it is listed on the death certificate as not a contributing factor, but the actual cause of death. This isn't tricky to figure out.

Have you actually written a death certificate? Do you know how to write one? Or are you just writing junk you know nothing about? FYI I’ve written hundreds of them.

 

[hot-gril]

BS

USA response has been excellent despite media misrepresentation. There have been local and regional failures where local politicians have made spiteful moves such hoarding or intentionally mismanaging resources, or playing blame games to avoid working together. But the focus, funding, and people are there to beat this.

Our national leader, who has respect among a large number of supporters and significant legal control of the country in general, said this was a hoax from the beginning and withheld information about it. That's not regional.

 

[hot-gril]

And this is the problem, the numbers simply aren't accurate, I mean someone tests positive, gets kicked in the head by a horse and the cause of death is listed as COVID (yep, that happened here in the U.S.). Clearly COVID had NOTHING to do with the death, yet it is listed on the death certificate as not a contributing factor, but the actual cause of death. This isn't tricky to figure out.

Is your source for this a Reddit screenshot of a text message?

 

[RobbieTT]

And this is the problem, the numbers simply aren't accurate, I mean someone tests positive, gets kicked in the head by a horse and the cause of death is listed as COVID (yep, that happened here in the U.S.). Clearly COVID had NOTHING to do with the death, yet it is listed on the death certificate as not a contributing factor, but the actual cause of death. This isn't tricky to figure out.

You are clueless on how coroners here in the UK record deaths, or the rigorous process that surrounds it, or the power of the coroners' court. The UK Office of National Statistics uses this data to provide very accurate figures, albeit it in lag, that shows that the daily figures under-report the actual numbers of deaths. In equal regard, the randomised surveys that take covid swabs from people also shows that the number of infections is also under-reported. Again, this is vigorously researched data that is released to any and all for independent scrutiny.

It is simply not possible for the data to be manipulated without the world and his dog spotting it. We also have the chain of evidential reporting from clinical surveys, to clinical tests, to admissions, to ICU beds, to deaths, to mortuaries, coroners' reporting, to burial & cremations and to excess deaths. If someone found a way to fiddle the figures in one area, despite the independent oversight and risk of prosecution, it would show-up in the wider chain. Quite simply it is not possible here in the UK for 80,000 deaths to be conjured as each one has a name, a family, a death certificate and a coroners' finding.

Now go and wrap your head as to how any conspiracy could involve every country on the planet, including those with anti-western and antidemocratic leanings.

 

[darkpaw]

It also excludes anybody who was tested positive then took more than 28 days to die. It is arbitrary but it assuming it is meaningless because it isn't perfect is a mistake. It gives us an indication of the direction of travel.

No, I didn't mean the number was meaningless. I meant that counting someone being hit by a bus seems to be a pretty pointless thing to do. COVID-19 didn't kill them; the bus did.

They simply need to count everyone who actually DID die of COVID-19 regardless of when they were tested. Do they test the dead to see whether they had COVID-19? It seems a pretty clear thing to do - to count those who really did die of the thing they're attributing it to. We do it with other deaths, like the flu or cancer, but COVID-19 is different?

 

[LeeW]

I have no idea what is going on in the UK at the minute, a couple of weeks ago they were closing all the emergency temporary hospitals, now they are opening again. We are told by NHS staff they are not any busier than normal. Past fed up and caring now tbh.

 

[Tech198]

.. well, just a little nudge to help that along...

No one really knows what they are doing in the mist of a pandemic

 

[bigchrisfgb]

The way the numbers are reported in the article is somewhat confusing to me.

Were there 58784 new cases on Monday and 407 deaths in the last 28 days ?

Why don't governments give the statistics as a rolling average over the last 1 month, 2 months, and 3 months ?

As it is reported now, I'm not sure if the mortality rate is higher, the same, or lower than when Covid first came out.

If I was to guess, I would predict that the the number of cases is going up while the mortality rate is going down.

Are you a British citizen living in the U.K.?

I ask because I am. We have daily briefings where they go into detail on the figures, share charts on death, admission rates, people in ICU and on oxygen. The data is also shared regionally.
This information is available on the news programmes and channels as well.
It is also available on government and regional government websites.

For the record we have more people catching the virus, being hospitalised, in ICU, on oxygen, and dying then we ever have, and this is across the U.K.

 

[Plutonius]

For the record we have more people catching the virus, being hospitalised, in ICU, on oxygen, and dying then we ever have, and this is across the U.K.

I'm also reading that the infection rate has gone up considerably in the UK.

More people are dying but I'm unable to see if the mortality rate is going up, staying the same. or going down based on the way the data is presented.

In the US, the overall Covid mortality rate as reported by the CDC is under 1.7% when we were initially warned of 4-5% mortality rate. Even though that's good news, I would like to see a moving average of the mortality rate based on the 28 day window for reporting Covid deaths.

Does the UK give the moving average of the mortality rate based on the 28 day window for reporting Covid deaths ?

 

[RobbieTT]

Does the UK give the moving average of the mortality rate based on the 28 day window for reporting Covid deaths ?

The ONS produces data in pretty much any way you can imagine. If you drill down far enough you will find the raw Excel spreadsheets so you can manipulate the data as you see fit - many UK universities do just that, as well as international bodies.

A good place to start:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

The latest data and trends about the coronavirus (COVID-18) pandemic from the Office for National Statistics and other sources.

www.ons.gov.uk

With a unified health system in all four nations of the UK and with the NHS one of the largest employers on the planet, the UK produces one of the most complete pictures of the virus progression you can get. Add in the unparalleled amount of genome sequencing* and the randomised surveys we have all the data you can imagine to chart the missteps of our lead-footed politicians...

[* As well as the UK, South Africa (yep, no kidding) is also incredibly good at very large-scale genome sequence monitoring, so no surprise that they have recorded mutations - seek and you shall find.]

 

[SchrodingersMartian]

lots of ignorance in here. Ban me I do not care but I cannot deal with ignorance given down by trump

 

[Baymowe335]

The U.S. is at the top or in the top 10 for new infections, total cases, total cases per 1 million, total deaths, total deaths per 1 million...

For such a powerful, rich, and resourceful country to which many have looked to for global leadership, I don't think these are areas where the U.S. should be leading.

U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly

In several countries, favorable views of the U.S. are at their lowest point since the Center began polling on this topic two decades ago.

www.pewresearch.org

People are focused on the wrong thing.

The USA is full of unhealthy people, period. A healthy person, IN GENERAL, will fight off Covid or never even have symptoms, so won’t even get tested. We know this is true.

Unhealthy people and especially old unhealthy people are at a MUCH higher risk of death. Show me the huge death numbers of healthy people dying of covid. Sure, it happens, but 94% of deaths in the US average 3 other conditions.

America keeps unhealthy people alive with insulin, medication and good healthcare in general.

Obesity in America and even Western Europeis the biggest pandemic of all. And, oh look, those places or struggling the most.

Asia has about a 4% obesity rate.

America is over 50%.

Combine this with lying in data, like Russia just admitted, and you see why America is where we are.

 

[redcaptrickster]

Start to compare the numbers one year after the vaccinations.

Which flu? Who in the UK said this?

**woosh**​