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New M2-Powered MacBooks Could Be Conspicuously Absent At Today's Apple Event

So the Mini Studio is going to be like the Surface Studio with the Apple's New Display? A display that runs iOS and an A-series chip? Are we getting a touch screen Mac? Or have I totally misread all the rumors. I kinda always like the Surface Studio, I have shame about that.
 
It'd *really* surprise me if the new display is a touchscreen. I think iOS under the hood would be for something like a Sidecar implementation.
 
dmr727 said:
It'd *really* surprise me if the new display is a touchscreen. I think iOS under the hood would be for something like a Sidecar implementation.
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Can't see it happening. Not for the prices, Apple charges.. The iPad line is the touchscreen line. I don't see that changing, especially when they are announcing a new Ipad Air.
 
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Another note: I think it will be odd for the M2 to be announced alongside an M1-series Mac mini/Mac Studio/Small Mac Pro — so maybe we should look for that as part of the May-June cycle. On the other hand, Apple is testing M2 Macs (8 CPU/10 GPU cores) against App Store apps now.
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I think someone has been reading numerous comments and adjusting his predictions so that he come away looking better than if he hadn’t.

I look forward to the original prediction, new IPad Air, new IPhone SE, and at least one new Mac possibly. ;)
 
Good. Those who follow the M-class developments know the differences between M1, M1 Pro and M1 Max capabilities, but most do not. They'll see 1 and 2 and think 2 is automatically newer and better. It's a hard sell long term to have a professional-focused machine sold with any "M1" generation tag while "M2" versions are already out. Do not add unnecessary hesitation for those uneducated on this.
 
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guzhogi said:
To me, an M(#+1) means a newer generation which should be better than even than M(# Pro/Max).
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...but it won't be. If you're running multithreaded/GPU-heavy workloads (which can speed up almost in proportion to the number of cores) the gain from the Pro/Max having ~twice as many GPU and CPU cores as the regular version will trump the incremental improvement between microarchitecture generations (50% would be really impressive). Then there's the extra I/O capability, RAM capacity and display support of the Pro/Max versions, which can be just as important as raw speed. Even more so if we get x4 variants.

...it's like comparing an i3 to a Xeon-W: a lot of generations will go by before the newest i3 is faster than the original Xeon. As I said, it is normal for the Xeon to be a couple of generations behind.
 
Ethosik said:
Why would it? Intel has had overlaps in their product line before. Waiting for the high end Laptop i9 X gen while the lowest i3 X+1 gen is rolling out already.
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Because people are of different types. It would be a difficult world if we were all the same.
 
bsbeamer said:
Good. Those who follow the M-class developments know the differences between M1, M1 Pro and M1 Max capabilities, but most do not. They'll see 1 and 2 and think 2 is automatically newer and better. It's a hard sell long term to have a professional-focused machine sold with any "M1" generation tag while "M2" versions are already out. Do not add unnecessary hesitation for those uneducated on this.
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This would apply to things like the Macbook Air and not the 14" or 16" laptops. Where if you BTO a Macbook Air, you can't even get the M1 Pro/Max chip similarly there is no M1 option for the 14" or 16" laptops. So there should be zero confusion from anyone.

This is like saying Dell confuses people with X+1 gen i3 where their most powerful product line is still on X gen i9.
 
theluggage said:
...but it won't be. If you're running multithreaded/GPU-heavy workloads (which can speed up almost in proportion to the number of cores) the gain from the Pro/Max having ~twice as many GPU and CPU cores as the regular version will trump the incremental improvement between microarchitecture generations (50% would be really impressive). Then there's the extra I/O capability, RAM capacity and display support of the Pro/Max versions, which can be just as important as raw speed. Even more so if we get x4 variants.

...it's like comparing an i3 to a Xeon-W: a lot of generations will go by before the newest i3 is faster than the original Xeon. As I said, it is normal for the Xeon to be a couple of generations behind.
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I get that, but too bad the basic consumer probably doesn't.
 
Ethosik said:
You certainly should care if I and others start leaving Macs if they don't keep up with Intel, as it will net to a decline in overall Mac sales and macOS usage which leads to a decline in developers focusing on Macs. They ditched Intel saying "we can do better" but if its going to be three years before they update their processors, they will effectively kill off the Mac product line entirely. Pros already have a rocky relationship with Apple at the moment. I gave them another try with the latest laptops, but if their processor upgrades are going to be 2 or 3 years, Intel will blow right passed them.

Intel is doing great with the new P-core/E-core and their newer processors do give the M1 some good competition.
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Intel's 12th gen 28W P series is already exceeding M1 PRO/M1 MAX in benchmark.
Meanwhile apple is still on their M1 architecture released 2 years ago.
Lol. Apple just pulled an Intel...however intel has already caught up.
 
bowen1506 said:
Intel's 12th gen 28W P series is already exceeding M1 PRO/M1 MAX in benchmark.
Meanwhile apple is still on their M1 architecture released 2 years ago.
Lol. Apple just pulled an Intel...however intel has already caught up.
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Yeah, Apple should just wave the white flag and (looks at Apple event where the Studio and M1 Ultra are ?ing all over Intel...)

You all need to get better at trolling because this is just sad.
 
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New M2-Powered MacBooks Could Be Conspicuously Absent At Today's Apple Event​


And... they were! No M2 Mac Air. Doggone it.
 
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clevins said:
Yeah, Apple should just wave the white flag and (looks at Apple event where the Studio and M1 Ultra are ?ing all over Intel...)

You all need to get better at trolling because this is just sad.
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Yeah right, they are comparing with their older macs with intel chips, which were released...years ago?
It's pathetic. How about they compare with current gen alderlake cores? Or, how about you go take a look at the top single thread and multi thread chart in passmark and geekbench?
 
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clevins said:
Yeah, Apple should just wave the white flag and (looks at Apple event where the Studio and M1 Ultra are ?ing all over Intel...)

You all need to get better at trolling because this is just sad.
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And Intel had worked SOOOOOOOOO very hard to show they were a few percent faster than the Pro Max after dumping two train cars of coal into the processor. The engineers were looking at those stories KNOWING this would be a rout, no M2 required!
 
bowen1506 said:
Yeah right, they are comparing with their older macs with intel chips, which were released...years ago?
It's pathetic. How about they compare with current gen alderlake cores? Or, how about you go take a look at the top single thread and multi thread chart in passmark and geekbench?
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Tell me you don't know what Xeon means, without... oh never mind. Run along now, no more attention for you.
 
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