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Apple's new back pack cooler will keep your Ultra whiz bang laptop cool when connected no matter what it is doing....
 
Or maybe it’s simply not about MacBook Pros but about Mac Studios?
This logic, then, presuming they cannot put an Ultra chip into the current chassis (at least the 14") . . . that would mean Only M5 and M4 Max models of various capabilities. That does introduce a substantial price tier adjustment, but since they have done away with standard tiers (at least on a landing page), maybe this is fine. It certainly cleans up the lineup a bit. And with such a focus on AI, I can see how they would want to sell more chips with more GPUs. But, again, then I hope they put a Max chip in the Mac minis. Other than not wanting to cannibalize the Studio, I don't see why a Max chip in the Mini hasn't already been done.
 
Mac Studio CPUs.

If Apple adds a third tier to the laptops it isn't going to be a traditional 'ultra' it will be a premium ($10k+) laptop that they gate 256+gb of memory behind and maybe some GPU cores. Given the configurator changes recently I think this is unlikey.

Studio is probably coming soon.

The real shock is going to be memory pricing, especially since this Ultra studio will probably have to sell for 18-24 months as the top end before M7. They are not going to price conservatively; I bet $15k or more is the top end.
 
Or, there will be no M5 Pro/Max MacBook Pros at all (which is why we haven't seen them yet, and why the buying page at Apple.com was redesigned to de-emphasize SoC choice), there is no M5 Pro chip, and the M5 Max and Ultra are going in the Studio only.

This is also consistent with the M6 being ahead of schedule and soon entering mass production for the redesigned MacBook Pros in October, just over eight months away.

This all makes sense, and there’s a history of chips being skipped before when next generation is close (i.e. M2 -> M4 on iPad Pro), EXCEPT for the fact that apparently MacBook Pro stock is dwindling. It can’t be low for eight months.
 
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Also, there was rumor of being able to customize the graphics part of the SoC starting with M5 Pro. The theory was you could get just the M5 Pro but get the better graphics traditionally only offered on the Max. What if it's the reverse? Everyone gets a "Max" chip but they can customize the graphics. It would simplify things a bit — M5 vs. M5 Max, ridding the middle "Pro" tier. Thoughts?
I could see this being true. No Pro chip at all. Just Max with different graphics and memory configs.
 
If they put an Ultra in a MacBook Pro. I'm all for it. It would most likely have that MacPro design pattern underneath and in the rear of the laptop to allow air to flow. A unibody design with that pattern in the back would be SICK. I do not need it, but I would be way too tempted to get it. 🥹
 
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It has never made sense to have a "MacBook Pro" with a chip that's an M-Pro and others with chips that are not. Maybe they are getting rid of "Pro" as a chip name. After all, it's incredibly easy to get wrong info when googling for reviews or when troubleshooting. Google "M5 MacBook Pro review" and you'll get M5 Pro info and vice versa, especially by Gemini blurbs, for example.
So: Pro and Air as laptop core designs; [Base], Max and Ultra as chips.
That would make some sense.
(And if they end up with thermal problems or other needs to rationalise, then "Max" could be the new name for "Pro", and "ultra" the new name for Max.)
Maybe M5, M5X, M5Y, M5Z like the A chips pre-M series would also work
 
I think the base M5 is pretty close to Pro-level performance for starters. Maybe they'll skip the Pro from now on and instead allow a more "minimum" M5 Max configuration to replace it?
I don’t know — I kind of think the opposite — that the Pro/Max tier will now be more strongly differentiated from the base M5. I’ll guess there will still be a Pro. Especially if Apple is going to introduce a range of IC (“integrated chip”) configurations within that framework. So macOS sees all of them as variants of the same thing.
 
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There was a rumor Apple tested the Ultra in a MacBook Pro but I'm not holding my breath! It seems like it would be way too hot for the MacBook Pro now never mind a thinner design to come later this year.
Unless they come out with long yearned for (on MR at least) successor to the 17”, an 18” MBP would probably be able to have a big enough cooling system crammed in
 
Lot's of comments on these being M5 Studio's but the M4M/M3U Studio's were released less than a year ago (March 12th) so way off their 1.5 year cadence.
 
There was a rumor Apple tested the Ultra in a MacBook Pro but I'm not holding my breath! It seems like it would be way too hot for the MacBook Pro now never mind a thinner design to come later this year.
And you would know this how?

Apple moving in the direction of bringing Ultra chip to MacBook Pro is not impossible, and electing to ship only Max and Ultra chips in it when the base model M5 more than covers the entry level Pro is not un-Apple like at all. Quite the opposite.
 
For me, the M5 with more RAM for local LLMs is the move. I’m not waiting for the M6. Why try to “improve” perfection with a touchscreen… or whatever Touch Bar zombie revival they’re planning? If I want touch, I’ll buy an iPad. That product already exists—and it doesn’t wobble when I breathe on it.

Try pressing your current Mac’s screen. It wobbles left to right like it’s a private in basic training doing tai chi drills. How are they planning to handle constant poking? Counterweights? Titanium-reinforced hinges? A motivational poster?

And fingerprints—forget it. Right now, the keyboard heroically absorbs grease when the lid is closed. Touchscreen Mac? Your screen becomes so ugly it could be a modern art masterpiece… a kind of “I survived the grease apocalypse” tribute to humanity’s failure.

Enter ClothOS, the new operating system Apple absolutely didn’t need. Powered by the new, “improved” Siri, your screen cleaning is now a full combat simulation:

“Hey Siri, clean screen.”
Siri responds:
“Affirmative, soldier. Deploying microfiber protocol. Also, your fingerprints are an affront to civilization.”
For the elite operators, Apple introduces:
  • Cloth Pro – Cleans your screen like a boot camp drill sergeant, but still leaves a streak of shame.
  • Cloth Pro Max – Heavier, louder, and 37% more expensive than sense.
  • Cloth Pro Ultra – Polishes fingerprints you haven’t even made yet, yells at you for bad posture, and requires you to salute while wiping.
ClothOS features include:
  • Smudge Detection AI – Pinpoints every mark, logs it, and files a report on your life choices.
  • Adaptive Wiping – Tells you to wipe harder, slower, or diagonally depending on mood.
  • Always-On Cleaning – Your screen will never look clean, but it’s thinking about cleaning, which Apple assures us is “therapeutic.”
Battery life drops 12% every time you speak. Asking for cleaning advice triggers a full tactical simulation. Siri may call in air support. You will probably die inside.

Meanwhile, I’ll take the M5 with obscene RAM, run local LLMs, and keep my hands on the keyboard. The M6 touchscreen? Let it suck it up like a recruit in the mud pit. I’ll be over here, actually getting work done, not screaming at a laptop like it owes me my soul.
 
This is very interesting. Looks like the new MacBooks can launch anytime now. Waiting to see the various configuration options that will be available.
 
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What I'm interested to see is how Apple's Purchasing department handled the rise in NAND flash memory cost.

I'm so so ready to replace my 2012 iMac 27" & 2019 MBP 16" already.
 
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