cargoplex said:
Must have been a glitch. I went to apple.com, and there was a link to the ads, clicked it, and it went to the ads movie page.
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Must have been a glitch. I went to apple.com, and there was a link to the ads, clicked it, and it went to the ads movie page.
I think you are just having web browser issues. Apple certainly hasn't hidden these ads. There's a "Get a Mac" tab on their tab bar which takes you to the apple.com/getamac page all about the ads.cargoplex said:
Nevermind, it was a problem on my end. Looks like the Safari plugin Saft's 'Block Ad/Banners' preference was checked. Well, glad to know it works at least.
P.S. I am definitely not running XP. I'm proud owner of an iMac G5 & PowerBook G4.
P.S. I am definitely not running XP. I'm proud owner of an iMac G5 & PowerBook G4.
gloss said:
That's what they say in the commercials. My reality has been otherwise.
I have an M-Audio Transit USB, that needed a driver disk. The Mighty Mouse comes with a driver disk. I wouldn't claim driver support as an advantage anymore.
janstett said:
Exactly. Which means that this particular commercial is nothing more than fear-mongering on the part of Apple.
As a previous poster had pointed out - the most popular cellular/email phone, the Blackberry, won't talk to a Mac unless there's a hack or third party support.
So in short, Apple lays claim to mythical new cameras from Japan while in reality it still doesn't have direct support for an industry leading device.
They say PC which mean Personal Computer and if Im not mistaken Mac is a PC. If they are meaning Windows then they should say that and its version. Or if they mean Dell then say that.
Im a photographer, web designer, graphic designer and more. I DONT DO SPREADSHEATS!
I use Windows XP pro.
I don't get any viruses that I can't stop in their tracks.
My computer does not lockup. In fact my home built computer is faster then any dual processor G5 I've worked on and it cost me thousands less then a G5.
I can use iTunes and QuickTime and why not Mac uses so many Microsoft products.
I use all the same design tools Mac uses. Macromedia, Abode, Quark Xpress, etc.
I can go on..
If Apple was smart they would sell their OS to work on other PCs other than Mac. Oh but wait... then they can't sell you the computer as well and they would need to a lot of work on their OS to be able to use all that extra hardware that's on the market.
All Im saying is that Mac is a Mac, buy it because you feel you need it. Apple needs to stop trashing me and my likes to keep old customers.
I like this video to combat the Archenemy Apple:
http://www.infopackets.com/dloads/using_a_mac.wmv
If they are meaning Windows then they should say that and its version. Or if they mean Dell then say that.Im a photographer, web designer, graphic designer and more. I DONT DO SPREADSHEATS!
I use Windows XP pro.
I don't get any viruses that I can't stop in their tracks.
My computer does not lockup. In fact my home built computer is faster then any dual processor G5 I've worked on and it cost me thousands less then a G5.
I can use iTunes and QuickTime and why not Mac uses so many Microsoft products.
I use all the same design tools Mac uses. Macromedia, Abode, Quark Xpress, etc.
I can go on..
If Apple was smart they would sell their OS to work on other PCs other than Mac. Oh but wait... then they can't sell you the computer as well and they would need to a lot of work on their OS to be able to use all that extra hardware that's on the market.
All Im saying is that Mac is a Mac, buy it because you feel you need it. Apple needs to stop trashing me and my likes to keep old customers.
I like this video to combat the Archenemy Apple:
http://www.infopackets.com/dloads/using_a_mac.wmv
my roommate
my roommate is a die hard pc fan. he likes that he can go out and buy a laptop for $299. i tried telling him that you get what you pay for and all he did was go and put another $150 down on his eMachines to fix it after he crashed it by upgrading it. the power source wasn't strong enough and the mother board quite. so now he put in a $20 motherboard and none of the USB ports are supported and he has to either connnect to the internet or connect to the printer...but not both at the same time. and the internet only works 20% of the time... yet he still thinks its a better deal than a Mac Mini!!? go figure. anyway my point. we were watching some tv the other day and the apple commercial came on where they talk about networking. i immediately started laughing - looked over and he was stoned faced! i was like yo man thats some pretty funny stuff... he got up and walked away. i couldn't help but laugh some more. these new commercials are great.
my roommate is a die hard pc fan. he likes that he can go out and buy a laptop for $299. i tried telling him that you get what you pay for and all he did was go and put another $150 down on his eMachines to fix it after he crashed it by upgrading it. the power source wasn't strong enough and the mother board quite. so now he put in a $20 motherboard and none of the USB ports are supported and he has to either connnect to the internet or connect to the printer...but not both at the same time. and the internet only works 20% of the time... yet he still thinks its a better deal than a Mac Mini!!? go figure. anyway my point. we were watching some tv the other day and the apple commercial came on where they talk about networking. i immediately started laughing - looked over and he was stoned faced! i was like yo man thats some pretty funny stuff... he got up and walked away. i couldn't help but laugh some more. these new commercials are great.
EricNau said:I just saw the 'Network' commercial, but instead of an iMac at the end, it was a MacBook.
Yeah, I just saw that too!
Anyone notice that Apple is using misleading cheap shots to push their crummy OS.
Apple REALLY has NOTHING on pcs.
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Apple speaking japanese, that doesnt make any sense.
All cameras are made PnP spec, so the camera may be japanese, but it actually HAS to speak english, so all systems, including linux, will find it as a memory card reader.
PC users actually have class, but if they didnt, you can easily show an apple with a promise SATA controller card NOT DETECTED or an apple with a Sound Blaster NOT WORKING, or a non-intel network card NOT-DETECTED, and the commercial would probably continue for about 5 minutes for the hardware "languages" apple doesnt speak. Not to mention poor support for printers and foreign partitions unlike windows. Hell even win2k3 can read and write HFS and EXT partitions.
My redhat and win2k3 can see everything, but the MacOSX86 on the same machine will have many drivers missing.
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Apples take on PC viruses.
A misconfigured PC will have its system setting easily accessible which is dangerous. Its like setting auto sudo.
Also, mac OSx is actually the least secure, sorry people. Even linux learned its lesson.
Windows is pretty time tested and thats why trojans and viruses are used to shake it. Since its widely used, patches usually come up pretty fast and win becomes more secure.
Linux is open, and since, its just as well ridden as windows because there are many people debugging it. The last buffer attack using gets overflow(yes i know gets is unsafe) had to be shorter and shorter which made taking control of the program harder and harder.
When compiled on mac osx, not so the case.
Both were on the same intel machines.
Also, when mac os crashes, it dies completely, and unless you have descent unix console experience, i suggest buying a new mac, or getting it replaced. Try relinking files in the dark in the console...Reinstalling it may not work, unless you format your drive. And you can forget about recovering data, unless you have a PC...or another mac.
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Apple Networking.
Apple networking is pretty pathetic.
You have to do manual ip mounts.
On linux, i can actually access my windows network.
TCP/IP internet through a router is nothing new.
Hey apple, try sharing a printer on a windows or linux network....
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Restarting
I havent restarted neither of my machines for a while, no need to. No problems....neither from linux or win2k3.
After 30days of uptime, due to human error in manufacturing and program, neither system is fast or stable after running a variety of apps. This is not that true on a server, since usually 1 set of apps is constantly running.
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Better
All i have to say is....yeah right....
Windows and linux top that region too.
Windows has a massive app package.
Linux does too.
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iLife
Mac just signed their death warrant with that cheap shot.
This has all to do with system bundling.
This commericial itself exposes apple as a monopoly, and even if i went to the supreme court with apple over this, i would win. It is called anti-trust.
Because they bundle software thats not free normally, they eliminate their competition. Windows learned this the hard way, because they used to bundle MS works with windows before they got sued bigtime.
I should really whip up a crummy office like program for mac, and take it to the supreme court....man....i can just smell the millions.
Also, iMovie and iDVD isnt that great. Especially when working with special cases like OGM and MKV files. Reauthoring dvds, and transfering DV from NTSC to PAL.
Vegas, Sound Forge, AVID metasync, AVID Newscutter, AVID Xpress, Adobe Premier, Adobe Encore, DVD Architect, cinelerra, lives...etc....
Iweb, its just frontpage withod 90% of the useful features.
Thought the price is much less, than any of the programs combined, but thats probably because of the large missing piece of features.
But you get what you pay for....with apple....its sometimes much less...
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Wall Street Journal.
Anyone is business is definetely stupid, and needs a shiny interface and an easy to use computer.
Apple is just perpetuating a negative american stereotype, where americans are regarded as stupid.
Anyways, my friend used to be in EE, and now he's in business because he flunked out. Guess what....he uses macs....and im still in computer science, even though we programmed for macs and we were in the same systems programming class.
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THE FOLLOWING ARE FROM THE APPLE WEB SITE AND HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED BY ME.
All those reasons you never bought a Mac? Not true anymore.
1. Know iTunes? You know the Mac.
Youll recognize features like library collection, playlist arrangement, and instant search in many Mac programs. So youre something of a Mac expert already. More
---> Actually thats not true. Mac is actually BSD, so you should get familiar with linux/unix.
2. You can take it with you.
A Mac can open most of your files with the right software. Most popular applications for Mac and PC use the same file formats, making it simple to exchange documents with coworkers or move existing files from a PC to a Mac. More
---> Actually, not all files work. More work on a linux distro like SUSE, debian, or redhat. For example, illustrator, from my experience, is not cross compatible.
3. Yes, Macs run Microsoft Office.
Microsoft Office for Mac OS X gives you Word, PowerPoint, and Excel, all with familiar features and the same shortcut commands. And when you need to use it for collaborative work, Office for Mac connects to Microsoft Exchange servers. More
----> Actually, Entourage is a poor remake of Outlook. And MacOffice has less features than the same version available for MS.
Apple is actually stupid for poking at this on the commericial, because MS could easily stop production of mac office and its APIs for intergration into iWork.
4. No, Macs arent slow.
The latest Intel Core Duo processors put other chips to shame. And a Mac just loves that second core, since Mac OS X has known about multiple processors from the start. Try burning a DVD while watching a TV show on iTunes. More
--> Actually they are, when compared to windows or linux. Yes, its the MACH microkernel in there again. Lazy programming and a cheap solution to make the system stable...
Also, FYI, IBM rigged their processor to cheat through benching programs to give false benchmark results.
5. No, you dont have to buy new stuff.
Your printer, camera, keyboard, and mouse will work with a Mac. PCs and Macs can usually share peripherals if they connect via USB, FireWire, or Bluetooth, three industry standards built into every new Mac. More
--> Well actually, you do. If you printer has LPT, or you have a serial interface device. Not to mention SCSI peripheral card for high end scanners....and the list actually goes on. For the most part, you really can move anything older or more legacy to a mac because it just doesnt support it. Basically, it doesnt support anything thats modern and cold pluggable.
Not to mention even USB scanners.....Did i mention HD capture cards.....im not talking about HDTV tuners either....
Basically, if you dont know how to port BSD drivers, or linux drivers to BSD and then to MAC, your pretty much gonna have to buy a bunch of new hardware. Not to mention software for PDAs such as "the missing link".
Most comps come with firewire, usb2.0 and gigabit ethernet. Bluetooth is sometimes included, but many people never use it, because apple doesnt have the drivers for the device on the bluetooth in the first place...
6. Yes, you can even run Windows.
So you have to run just that one thing, or maybe your office requires it. Now that the Mac has an Intel chip, you can configure your Mac to run Windows in some cases even faster than on a PC. More
Big woop, why dont you tell the public how a regualr pc can run mac os.
My older comp, a p4 2.0 on rambus is detected as a dual core 3.2 during the optimization test with quartz enabled...
Pear Pc can also run it. Why settle for mac, with WINE you dont have to see windows....ever if you run linux....
As you can see, many of these are just mis-information provided to the unsuspecting public by apple.
And the guy in the commericial is a real douche.
Apple is really pushing it, because MS could just as easily ban apple from using ms-developed protocols and completely cripple mac os...
Apple REALLY has NOTHING on pcs.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Apple speaking japanese, that doesnt make any sense.
All cameras are made PnP spec, so the camera may be japanese, but it actually HAS to speak english, so all systems, including linux, will find it as a memory card reader.
PC users actually have class, but if they didnt, you can easily show an apple with a promise SATA controller card NOT DETECTED or an apple with a Sound Blaster NOT WORKING, or a non-intel network card NOT-DETECTED, and the commercial would probably continue for about 5 minutes for the hardware "languages" apple doesnt speak. Not to mention poor support for printers and foreign partitions unlike windows. Hell even win2k3 can read and write HFS and EXT partitions.
My redhat and win2k3 can see everything, but the MacOSX86 on the same machine will have many drivers missing.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Apples take on PC viruses.
A misconfigured PC will have its system setting easily accessible which is dangerous. Its like setting auto sudo.
Also, mac OSx is actually the least secure, sorry people. Even linux learned its lesson.
Windows is pretty time tested and thats why trojans and viruses are used to shake it. Since its widely used, patches usually come up pretty fast and win becomes more secure.
Linux is open, and since, its just as well ridden as windows because there are many people debugging it. The last buffer attack using gets overflow(yes i know gets is unsafe) had to be shorter and shorter which made taking control of the program harder and harder.
When compiled on mac osx, not so the case.
Both were on the same intel machines.
Also, when mac os crashes, it dies completely, and unless you have descent unix console experience, i suggest buying a new mac, or getting it replaced. Try relinking files in the dark in the console...Reinstalling it may not work, unless you format your drive. And you can forget about recovering data, unless you have a PC...or another mac.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Apple Networking.
Apple networking is pretty pathetic.
You have to do manual ip mounts.
On linux, i can actually access my windows network.
TCP/IP internet through a router is nothing new.
Hey apple, try sharing a printer on a windows or linux network....
------------------------------------------------------------------
Restarting
I havent restarted neither of my machines for a while, no need to. No problems....neither from linux or win2k3.
After 30days of uptime, due to human error in manufacturing and program, neither system is fast or stable after running a variety of apps. This is not that true on a server, since usually 1 set of apps is constantly running.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Better
All i have to say is....yeah right....
Windows and linux top that region too.
Windows has a massive app package.
Linux does too.
------------------------------------------------------------------
iLife
Mac just signed their death warrant with that cheap shot.
This has all to do with system bundling.
This commericial itself exposes apple as a monopoly, and even if i went to the supreme court with apple over this, i would win. It is called anti-trust.
Because they bundle software thats not free normally, they eliminate their competition. Windows learned this the hard way, because they used to bundle MS works with windows before they got sued bigtime.
I should really whip up a crummy office like program for mac, and take it to the supreme court....man....i can just smell the millions.
Also, iMovie and iDVD isnt that great. Especially when working with special cases like OGM and MKV files. Reauthoring dvds, and transfering DV from NTSC to PAL.
Vegas, Sound Forge, AVID metasync, AVID Newscutter, AVID Xpress, Adobe Premier, Adobe Encore, DVD Architect, cinelerra, lives...etc....
Iweb, its just frontpage withod 90% of the useful features.
Thought the price is much less, than any of the programs combined, but thats probably because of the large missing piece of features.
But you get what you pay for....with apple....its sometimes much less...
--------------------------------------------------------
Wall Street Journal.
Anyone is business is definetely stupid, and needs a shiny interface and an easy to use computer.
Apple is just perpetuating a negative american stereotype, where americans are regarded as stupid.
Anyways, my friend used to be in EE, and now he's in business because he flunked out. Guess what....he uses macs....and im still in computer science, even though we programmed for macs and we were in the same systems programming class.
----------------------------------------------------------------
THE FOLLOWING ARE FROM THE APPLE WEB SITE AND HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED BY ME.
All those reasons you never bought a Mac? Not true anymore.
1. Know iTunes? You know the Mac.
Youll recognize features like library collection, playlist arrangement, and instant search in many Mac programs. So youre something of a Mac expert already. More
---> Actually thats not true. Mac is actually BSD, so you should get familiar with linux/unix.
2. You can take it with you.
A Mac can open most of your files with the right software. Most popular applications for Mac and PC use the same file formats, making it simple to exchange documents with coworkers or move existing files from a PC to a Mac. More
---> Actually, not all files work. More work on a linux distro like SUSE, debian, or redhat. For example, illustrator, from my experience, is not cross compatible.
3. Yes, Macs run Microsoft Office.
Microsoft Office for Mac OS X gives you Word, PowerPoint, and Excel, all with familiar features and the same shortcut commands. And when you need to use it for collaborative work, Office for Mac connects to Microsoft Exchange servers. More
----> Actually, Entourage is a poor remake of Outlook. And MacOffice has less features than the same version available for MS.
Apple is actually stupid for poking at this on the commericial, because MS could easily stop production of mac office and its APIs for intergration into iWork.
4. No, Macs arent slow.
The latest Intel Core Duo processors put other chips to shame. And a Mac just loves that second core, since Mac OS X has known about multiple processors from the start. Try burning a DVD while watching a TV show on iTunes. More
--> Actually they are, when compared to windows or linux. Yes, its the MACH microkernel in there again. Lazy programming and a cheap solution to make the system stable...
Also, FYI, IBM rigged their processor to cheat through benching programs to give false benchmark results.
5. No, you dont have to buy new stuff.
Your printer, camera, keyboard, and mouse will work with a Mac. PCs and Macs can usually share peripherals if they connect via USB, FireWire, or Bluetooth, three industry standards built into every new Mac. More
--> Well actually, you do. If you printer has LPT, or you have a serial interface device. Not to mention SCSI peripheral card for high end scanners....and the list actually goes on. For the most part, you really can move anything older or more legacy to a mac because it just doesnt support it. Basically, it doesnt support anything thats modern and cold pluggable.
Not to mention even USB scanners.....Did i mention HD capture cards.....im not talking about HDTV tuners either....
Basically, if you dont know how to port BSD drivers, or linux drivers to BSD and then to MAC, your pretty much gonna have to buy a bunch of new hardware. Not to mention software for PDAs such as "the missing link".
Most comps come with firewire, usb2.0 and gigabit ethernet. Bluetooth is sometimes included, but many people never use it, because apple doesnt have the drivers for the device on the bluetooth in the first place...
6. Yes, you can even run Windows.
So you have to run just that one thing, or maybe your office requires it. Now that the Mac has an Intel chip, you can configure your Mac to run Windows in some cases even faster than on a PC. More
Big woop, why dont you tell the public how a regualr pc can run mac os.
My older comp, a p4 2.0 on rambus is detected as a dual core 3.2 during the optimization test with quartz enabled...
Pear Pc can also run it. Why settle for mac, with WINE you dont have to see windows....ever if you run linux....
As you can see, many of these are just mis-information provided to the unsuspecting public by apple.
And the guy in the commericial is a real douche.
Apple is really pushing it, because MS could just as easily ban apple from using ms-developed protocols and completely cripple mac os...
ya I was flipping threw the channels and saw the ending of one of the ads but there was a macbook at the end... do they have new ads now?
I have been seeing these ads for awhile, but haven't commented on them yet. I think they are very funny and they target the right group (switchers). Hopefully it was money well spent for Apple, I wonder if this will be another record money making year for Apple.
dejo said:
Which is probably a wonderful idea. I don't know how many people realize how thin an iMac is or that there's actually an entire computer in there, so it might not shock people the way it should. On the other hand, a Macbook isn't that impressive, but it should grab more switchers due to the power for the price value.
High Definition MacBook Tagged Ad On 24 Last Night
If you have a High Definition TV or EyeTV 500 system, you will note that Apple runs High Definition versions on HD TV Shows. Last night on 24's conclusion they ran one where the PC keeps crashing and rebooting after which Mac says he'll go get IT followed by the White MacBook with the Apple logo and the word "Mac" on it. Boy that MacBook sure looks like a work of art with that invisible magnetic latch.hpzine said:
apple always amazes me that they can pull off polar opposite commercials and they both work.
the new "Mac vs PC" commercials follow the "less is more" technique.. just two guys talking back and forth. and still gets their point across without flashy graphics, compositing or any of the sort. everytime i see the Mac vs PC commercials i always crack a smile. just because its so true. and whoever posted that long pointless post.. go somewhere else where they care.. this place is for Mac users.. not haters.
the new "Wolfmother" commercials + iPod commercials in general get the point across too. i don't know if its to grab younger attention to make it seem like they're more fun, sexy and exciting-- but it works (although sales have been down). when someone begins to watch an iPod commercial and notices the snapping white cords coming from someones ears... automatically.. "iPod" and its most likely the most recognizable ad campaign since "where's the beef" (i'm sure.)
the new "Mac vs PC" commercials follow the "less is more" technique.. just two guys talking back and forth. and still gets their point across without flashy graphics, compositing or any of the sort. everytime i see the Mac vs PC commercials i always crack a smile. just because its so true. and whoever posted that long pointless post.. go somewhere else where they care.. this place is for Mac users.. not haters.
the new "Wolfmother" commercials + iPod commercials in general get the point across too. i don't know if its to grab younger attention to make it seem like they're more fun, sexy and exciting-- but it works (although sales have been down). when someone begins to watch an iPod commercial and notices the snapping white cords coming from someones ears... automatically.. "iPod" and its most likely the most recognizable ad campaign since "where's the beef" (i'm sure.)
Multimedia said:
Yeah, ironically when that commercial came on my MacBook was infinitely hung up in the shutdown process for the SMC firmware update that was just released. Minutes earlier it had rebooted itself in the middle of running iSquint to do some iPod video conversions. All I can say is
Apple.
ncook06 said:
More proof of the scare tactics and hate mongering on Apple's part.
It's amazing how a basic marketing strategy can suck in so many people.
Opcode said:They say PC which mean Personal Computer and if Im not mistaken Mac is a PC.
Im a photographer, web designer, graphic designer and more. I DONT DO SPREADSHEATS!
I use Windows XP pro.
I don't get any viruses that I can't stop in their tracks.
My computer does not lockup. In fact my home built computer is faster then any dual processor G5 I've worked on and it cost me thousands less then a G5.
I can use iTunes and QuickTime and why not Mac uses so many Microsoft products.
I use all the same design tools Mac uses. Macromedia, Abode, Quark Xpress, etc.
I can go on..
If Apple was smart they would sell their OS to work on other PCs other than Mac. Oh but wait... then they can't sell you the computer as well and they would need to a lot of work on their OS to be able to use all that extra hardware that's on the market.
All Im saying is that Mac is a Mac, buy it because you feel you need it. Apple needs to stop trashing me and my likes to keep old customers.
I like this video to combat the Archenemy Apple:
http://www.infopackets.com/dloads/using_a_mac.wmv
Professionals never using PC's meant Design and etc. and if you thought your PC is better then enjoy with your crap and leave us...
Opcode said:They say PC which mean “Personal Computer” and if I’m not mistaken Mac is a PC.
I’m a photographer, web designer, graphic designer and more. I DON’T DO SPREADSHEATS!
I use Windows XP pro.
I don't get any viruses that I can't stop in their tracks.
My computer does not lockup. In fact my home built computer is faster then any dual processor G5 I've worked on and it cost me thousands less then a G5.
I can use iTunes and QuickTime and why not Mac uses so many Microsoft products.
I use all the same design tools Mac uses. Macromedia, Abode, Quark Xpress, etc.
I can go on..
If Apple was smart they would sell their OS to work on other PCs other than Mac. Oh but wait... then they can't sell you the computer as well and they would need to a lot of work on their OS to be able to use all that extra hardware that's on the market.
All I’m saying is that Mac is a Mac, buy it because you feel you need it. Apple needs to stop trashing me and my likes to keep old customers.
I like this video to combat the Archenemy Apple:
http://www.infopackets.com/dloads/using_a_mac.wmv
I tend to agree that trashing PCs isn't the answer. I am a switcher since the introduction of the new Intel iMac and I love working on my Mac, but PCs work just fine and there is a lot of rubbish said about Windows that just isn't true. I prefer my Mac, and that is what I now do my work on, but that doesn't mean I have to hate Windows.
Windows works fine. I just prefer the way that my Mac works. Simple as that.
