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Carson said:
Well, that makes a lot more sense. Since you in no way have to make decisions about how much things cost, your opinion has nothing to do with those of us who have to pay for things.
iLife is great for me. I've fumbled around with different web site creators and NVU is great but iWeb is extremely easy and integrates with all that other iApps just great and does exactly what I want it to do if not more. If I was a pro, sure, PRO Apps would of course be better but for me to spend more money on software than I did on my PB makes no sense whatsoever.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when you're faced with the choice of paying full price for all the apps you currently use or spending your money on something else...
Actually, I think I kinda spoiled it for myself because I watched the ads too much on the computer, so now when they come on on actual TV, it's like "ehh.."
Apple Commercials and a Microsoft Fan
So friday the 12 of May I found myself at my girlfriends house watching some TV show her Dad was also watching in the same room.
SUDDENLY the Apple commercials came on. "What is he gonna think," i thought. I quickly remembered he is a "live for microsoft, die for microsoft" type of guy.
At first I felt deeply awkward because I thought perhaps he would make fun of the commercials.
But!! Her father did not speak up because he would not want to be that father who causes problems and makes his daughters boyfriend feel uncomfortable.
So why am I telling you all this?
Because it was awesome. A die hard Microsoft fan had to sit quitely watching a Mac commercial, while I laughed silently through my passive victory.
So friday the 12 of May I found myself at my girlfriends house watching some TV show her Dad was also watching in the same room.
SUDDENLY the Apple commercials came on. "What is he gonna think," i thought. I quickly remembered he is a "live for microsoft, die for microsoft" type of guy.
At first I felt deeply awkward because I thought perhaps he would make fun of the commercials.
But!! Her father did not speak up because he would not want to be that father who causes problems and makes his daughters boyfriend feel uncomfortable.
So why am I telling you all this?
Because it was awesome. A die hard Microsoft fan had to sit quitely watching a Mac commercial, while I laughed silently through my passive victory.
As much as I like the overall Apple designs, I pretty much hate the new Apple TV campaign. To me they are boring, uninformative, not funny, don't have any catch phrases like when Dell had it's crackhead Steve and his "Dude You Got A Dell" line, it was stupid but at least people were talking and laughing about it.
These new Apple adds do not stand out and are pretty much forgetable, something that their products definately are not.
These new Apple adds do not stand out and are pretty much forgetable, something that their products definately are not.
missed opportunity
I actually like the ads. When they first came out I went straight to the apple site and watched all of them a couple times.
However, I went to my girlfriend's parents house and upon seeing my beautiful powerbook her step-dad asked me what kind of laptop it was.
-a run down. this guy is a douchebag. I am not sure if he belongs to the demographic that apple is shooting for. He is a business man, works from home, sells insurance, knows everything, voted for bush, bought a jaguar and says he loves driving the jag cause people stare at him and say "whoa thats a jag" -when actually they are saying "look at that douche bag who bought a ford and paid for a jag.
-back to the subject...
...."what kind of laptop is that?"
-its a mac -yes its beautiful and dont touch it
he replies "oh so I have been hearing that macs are good for photos and stuff but pc's are much better for spreadsheets and other business matters"
his answer is straight off the freaking commercial (almost).
spreadsheets? if a computer can't do a friggin' spreadsheet I mean com'on.
I did not try to explain because such things are futile. He saw it on tv and tv has all the answers, tv is alway right -especially fox news.
If he is at all the market apple is shooting for then they missed their mark.
I actually like the ads. When they first came out I went straight to the apple site and watched all of them a couple times.
However, I went to my girlfriend's parents house and upon seeing my beautiful powerbook her step-dad asked me what kind of laptop it was.
-a run down. this guy is a douchebag. I am not sure if he belongs to the demographic that apple is shooting for. He is a business man, works from home, sells insurance, knows everything, voted for bush, bought a jaguar and says he loves driving the jag cause people stare at him and say "whoa thats a jag" -when actually they are saying "look at that douche bag who bought a ford and paid for a jag.
-back to the subject...
...."what kind of laptop is that?"
-its a mac -yes its beautiful and dont touch it
he replies "oh so I have been hearing that macs are good for photos and stuff but pc's are much better for spreadsheets and other business matters"
his answer is straight off the freaking commercial (almost).
spreadsheets? if a computer can't do a friggin' spreadsheet I mean com'on.
I did not try to explain because such things are futile. He saw it on tv and tv has all the answers, tv is alway right -especially fox news.
If he is at all the market apple is shooting for then they missed their mark.
False Advertising?
Can anyone here point me in the direction of the "hot new digital camera from Japan" that is referenced in the latest commercial?
You know - the popular one that works with macs but for some reason was designed so it would be incompatible with 90% of the potential market?
These commercials have apparently moved into the realm of fanboy lies.
Can anyone here point me in the direction of the "hot new digital camera from Japan" that is referenced in the latest commercial?
You know - the popular one that works with macs but for some reason was designed so it would be incompatible with 90% of the potential market?
These commercials have apparently moved into the realm of fanboy lies.
Apple Shmapple said:
Slight exaggeration, but in my experience Macs have been much friendlier with hardware than my PC. I've never had to bother with drivers, etc. Just plug and go.
I think that was the point.
Remember: You marry the girl, you marry her family.
gloss said:
Every digital camera made now, especially any fancy new high tech ones coming from Japan - are designed as plug and go for PC.
I'm curious as to why Apple has to fall back on myths and scare tactics in their ads. If this were an ad by Microsoft falsly attacking Apple, all of you would be calling for a lawsuit.
In the meantime, I'll wait for someone to post a link to that "fancy new popular digital camera from Japan" that won't work with PCs.
I'm almost positive that Apple's referring to cameras that require no driver installation to use. I have no experience with digital cameras on any platform, and I'm curious as to when and what started the driverless trend for digital cameras.Apple Shmapple said:
Have you tested "every digital camera...from Japan" on a PC to verify this? Do you have this information documented with verifiable sources? Of course not. The ad is, like the other poster mentioned, playing on the "ease of use feature" by using a situation common computer users can relate to.
I think you're taking the commercials too seriously, or you're just looking to pick a fight. Either are rather counter-productive.
Apple Shmapple said:
I sense anger in you.
Simplification. Generalization. They're designed to appeal more to the Mac-idiot, who knows nothing about the platform, or to people who have had it up to here with their PCs (they're out there too, you know).
Not to say that they're particularly spectacular, but I can understand the approach.
And keep in mind I'm hardly a Mac zealot. I've built my own gaming PC (twice) and use it constantly.
janstett said:
Hold on, just a second there sporto.
I will defend these adds until the end of times. Until the world awakens and Apple rules the universe.
I dare the PC people to retaliate...us Appleheads will DESTROY them.
Besides computers are for guys, are they not?...must be like that.. No girls seem to be joining my eat an apple weekly Mac get together. Right now it's just me and all my friends (and I have alot).
How dare you Blasphemize the apple guy..he looks perfect....I am trying to grow my facial hair just like his. I like to call it the ifuzz.
You have a GAY alarm? wow, why? r u gay? Wanna join my MacClub
luv Georgeo
Apple Shmapple said:
You've made a good point, what possibly could MS attack Apple on? Their massively successful iPod/iTunes? Perhaps the pretty darned successful migration from Freescale to Intel? The fact that Office is one of MS' most profitable pieces of software?
Apple had some rough years but now they're riding high and MS is the one sinking. When's Vista due out? Oh, and I think it would be great if MS was to do a series of ads rebutting Apple's, but then that's all they ever do is play catch up, isn't it?
The commercials are a series of friendly jabs between two long term rivals/innovators/etc, etc, etc. Anyone who can't see the long term relationship between MS and Apple as depicted in these ads is way too serious and in need of a good hug.
gloss said:
Apple Shmapple said:
I'm affraid I disagree...
I work with PC's all day (I'm a graphist on a tv sitcom and unfortunately, the computers we have are PC's). I've also worked in broadcast editing for some years (using high end broadcast editing workstation). And I'm still on PC at home (two laptops and a desktop). All of them (but two NT workstations) run on XP. Only in the last month I've had to install five or six printers (Lanier, HP, Epson), one webcam, two dsl routers, and one sound card. The only things that worked without a problem were the routers. And even if I don't consider myself an expert, as I do my living on those things, I actually have some knowledge about easy things like "plug and play" (makes me laugh) devices.
And the truth is, plug and play doesn't always work. Let alone when you have to install drivers from the manufacturer.
Juan
BTW, sorry for my English, it's even worse than my printer installing skills
janstett said:
It's funny how people focus on the snarkiness and not on the fact that they make a point that Office works on Macs and that they can network just fine.
How old is your wife? The Mac guy "look" isn't that uncommon these days.
I'm gay and the holding hands bit was a little bit of a shocker to me even. It did reinforce the idea that Macs and PCs network and that they do it very well. Americans just don't do male to male contact and I can't imagine this playing well in Christian markets but maybe, just maybe, Apple is thumbing its nose at conservative Americans.
Apple has always been about concepts and innovation. The image of the stodgy bill gates look alike pc guy contrasted with the young seemingly hip Mac guy makes an extremely strong statement. Especially when the Mac guy starts talking in Japanese to the woman. I can't help but feel that that is an attempt to garner more share in the Japanese market, something that Apple has done poorly in.
Apple after all is about being different not conforming to mainstream America.
gloss said:
Apple Shmapple said:
I recently helped a friend setup a wireless router for his wife's PC. it was a nightmare compared to the setup of my Airport Express. AND, I've never had to load drivers for my mouse, mini DV cam, digicam, etc. My sister almost always has to on her XP PC.
It's annoying that my name gets put at the top of those posts even though they're not mine.
I'm enlightened, I swear.
I'm enlightened, I swear.
Seasought said:
That's why I'm asking all of you - please provide a link to this mythical popular new digital camera that won't communicate with PCs, only Macs. Heck - maybe it's out there and I'm just not aware of it. Apple threw the fact that this device exists out there though, so don't try to string me up simply for calling them on the carpet for it.
But until someone provides that link, this is nothing more than an Apple scare tactic to try to mislead consumers into purchasing Macs because of some non-existant problem.
How am I trying to pick a fight for questioning the line of thinking in this ad?
Would all of you be "taking a commercial too seriously" if Microsoft told an out and out lie in an ad about Apple in an attempt to scare people away? Reading some of the replies here, I think heads would explode.
Ugg said:
The commercial doesn't talk about wireless routers, cheap mice or complicated DV cams - it talks about digital cameras. Has your sister ever encountered the problem of her PC not accepting the driver and being able to communicate with the camera? If so, lemme know the model/brand. I'm honestly curious if this unicorn/lochness monster/chupracabra actually exists. The whole idea that a company would release a digital camera that 90% of the market couldn't even use is ridiculous at best.
This example is a couple of years old, but in order to download photos from my Canon S50, I had to access them through TWAIN, via Photoshop, and save them one at a time to my hard drive.
Happily, my new A620 shows up as a removable drive, which makes life easier.
There, I gave you a model name. Shoo.
Happily, my new A620 shows up as a removable drive, which makes life easier.
There, I gave you a model name. Shoo.
I think it's fine that some hardware installs easier on a Mac--but I don't know that I'd spend too much time focusing on it. For every device that installs easier, there's a device that doesn't install, or is a difficult install, or requires a hack or 3rd party piece of software to work.
Look at the BlackBerry--a hugely popular device, that STILL doesn't have official Mac support. There are an increasing number of 3rd party apps that provide some functionality, but still no official support. Of course, RIM has done a good job of making it not require desktop sync with 4.x, but its still ridiculous that those types of common devices are still so poorly supported. Some things may be a pain to install on a PC--but at least the official drivers, software and support are out there to actually make it work.
Only thing I can think of like that on a PC is the early iPods, before iTunes on a PC. Of course, now it's tied to iTunes--and requires hacks to work with other media software.
I don't think I'd argue hardware or software support, if I was Apple. It's a lot better than it used to be, but you've still got limited options.
Look at the BlackBerry--a hugely popular device, that STILL doesn't have official Mac support. There are an increasing number of 3rd party apps that provide some functionality, but still no official support. Of course, RIM has done a good job of making it not require desktop sync with 4.x, but its still ridiculous that those types of common devices are still so poorly supported. Some things may be a pain to install on a PC--but at least the official drivers, software and support are out there to actually make it work.
Only thing I can think of like that on a PC is the early iPods, before iTunes on a PC. Of course, now it's tied to iTunes--and requires hacks to work with other media software.
I don't think I'd argue hardware or software support, if I was Apple. It's a lot better than it used to be, but you've still got limited options.
Ads Pulled from Apple.com???
Has anyone else noticed that Apple appears to have pulled these new ads from their site? When you go to their homepage, you see a section along the bottom that says "Watch the new TV ads", but it vanishes once the page finishes loading. In addition, when you click the 'Get A Mac' link at the top of their site, you see the 'Mac' and 'PC' guy appear at the top of the page for a second, but then vanish once the page finishes loading!
Is there some damage control going on that we don't know about? Interesting to say the least...
Has anyone else noticed that Apple appears to have pulled these new ads from their site? When you go to their homepage, you see a section along the bottom that says "Watch the new TV ads", but it vanishes once the page finishes loading. In addition, when you click the 'Get A Mac' link at the top of their site, you see the 'Mac' and 'PC' guy appear at the top of the page for a second, but then vanish once the page finishes loading!
Is there some damage control going on that we don't know about? Interesting to say the least...