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In my city (Bath, UK) we've got an Apple retail store (been here a few months) and a Premium Reseller / Authorised service centre who have been here for ever.

So if the HDD / ODD is hard to get to (boo!), I'll just take it to the authorised service centre.... as they'll probably be cheaper than the Apple store!

Depends... Atleast here in PR resellers are more costly than the apple stores upstate since there in for profits. So it depends just ask them for a quote.
 
No $599 model makes me mad, i mean the mac mini is supposed to be the affordable mac!!! but i really like the new design. :)
 
Actually they have already started to roll out the 1000MB/s internet connections. Everyone will have minimum 100MB/s next year.

So kiss your precious Blu-rays goodbye! Everything´s gonna change really soon. So better start selling those Blu-ray collections now when they are still worth something. Next year it will be a totally different story. :cool:

You've already lost a few years and you are going to wait for another one. Good luck. And us? We are enjoying life RIGHT NOW. And you do not have to buy BR disks, you can rent them from Netflix. Cheaper than iTunes and much better quality (but no Apple logo)
 
Looks really nice, but $700 seems a bit pricey for a box without a monitor and keyboard. Especially since for many people this might be a secondary box to complement an iMac or other desktop. Also, I think the SD card slot would be more useful on the front. Still, not a lot to complain about.
 
Actually they have already started to roll out the 1000MB/s internet connections. Everyone will have minimum 100MB/s next year.

So kiss your precious Blu-rays goodbye! Everything´s gonna change really soon. So better start selling those Blu-ray collections now when they are still worth something. Next year it will be a totally different story. :cool:

Really ? You mean my ISP, who gives me 10 mbps (megabits, not megabytes) with a 100 GB cap per month is going to suddenly increase my bandwidth 1000% and remove my 2 BD disc limit ?

That sounds great! Can't wait. :rolleyes:

I guess I'll continue enjoying my HD movies on Blu-ray while you keep waiting for them to even become available in a downloadable format. And I'll continue lending my movies out to friends while you keep explaining to them that the movie can't be played back on other devices because of the DRM on them.
 
Nice!

Am hoping my coworker will buy refurb iMac because honestly, this new Mac Mini is all I need as far as a desktop. Particularly with all the expandability options as far as memory and such.

As much as I'd like to support the Mac Pro, I've taken serious stock at what I'm using my computers for. Basically: online school stuff, writing in any variety of formats (screenwriting, comicbook scripts etc.). In a way, I'm kind of sorry I moved away from my decision to buy a mini in the first place. This machine has the potential to be even more productive than my 2010 Macbook Pro. Guess I learned two things about buying new Mac computers: hold out until the middle of the year if possible, and laptaps really aren't my thing.

Well, I'll know in about a month if my set up is changing. Can't wait to hear about how great this new Mini is.
 
I understand that the bandwidth isn't yet to deliver Full HD quality (1080P) as fast as we all would like. But it's coming. In the meantime why doesn't anyone come up with an alternative to Blu Ray. I've said this before, but why can't I go to my local CVS and plug my re-usable SD card or USB Thumbdrive into the Movie Vending machine, load the latest release of a movie on to it and then go home and transfer it to my hard drive?

You know we do buy computers for their current and near future needs? For example cloud computing and web browser as the operating system are one of those things of the future things but still we get a Mac with OSX and not something with Chrome OS.

For HTPC use Blu-ray is one of those current and near future needs.
 
The new Mini is amazing!!! I'm getting one as soon as I get my new HDTV,It's going to be awesome as my main desktop/home entertainment center. :D

Well done Apple with the SD card slot and HDMI. :)
 
Just looked it up in the service manual and the hard drive is not user replaceable. You have to take out: The memory, fan, cowling, antenna cover and then the logic board(needs a special tool to take out) then you can have access to the hard drive. :([/QUOT

It's called an external HD. ;) I don't see why everyone has to upgrade the internal HDD all the time.:rolleyes:
 
I think the answer is quite simple, Why would you buy this crap in a first place? You can buy much much better PC for $500 with the CPU and graphics and HD and BD you want.

I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and opinion. But I intended my question to be more of from a technical nature independent of cost, value, or other functionality. I doubt I'll be buying one any time soon, but I am still excited to see the tear down, and see if the hard drive can be replaced, etc.
 
Really ? You mean my ISP, who gives me 10 mbps (megabits, not megabytes) with a 100 GB cap per month is going to

100GB? I wish. My ISP has a 60GB cap and 2$/Gig overage charge.

So if I was at cap and downloaded a single uncompressed Blu Ray (~50G) it would cost and an extra $100 in data charges alone.
 
Am hoping my coworker will buy refurb iMac because honestly, this new Mac Mini is all I need as far as a desktop. Particularly with all the expandability options as far as memory and such.

As much as I'd like to support the Mac Pro, I've taken serious stock at what I'm using my computers for. Basically: online school stuff, writing in any variety of formats (screenwriting, comicbook scripts etc.). In a way, I'm kind of sorry I moved away from my decision to buy a mini in the first place. This machine has the potential to be even more productive than my 2010 Macbook Pro. Guess I learned two things about buying new Mac computers: hold out until the middle of the year if possible, and laptaps really aren't my thing.

Well, I'll know in about a month if my set up is changing. Can't wait to hear about how great this new Mini is.

If you have a 2010 MacBook Pro - I really don't see what you are missing out on. I have been wanting a Mini forever - but have always bought something else (iMacs, MBPs). Here I am again, ready to make a purchase, but I feel the Mini is going to get edged out again - and I am thinking about the MBP. I don't use my laptops as laptops for the most part as well. I really use them as desktops. You should look into getting one of these Henge docks (for like $60) - then you will have the best of both worlds and no regrets:

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They seem to be out of stock at the moment (I guess they sold a ton of them and needed to get more manufactured). The price can't be beat - and it seems like it will do exactly what I need by turning a MBP into a good desktop system.
 
Actually they have already started to roll out the 1000MB/s internet connections. Everyone will have minimum 100MB/s next year.

So kiss your precious Blu-rays goodbye! Everything´s gonna change really soon. So better start selling those Blu-ray collections now when they are still worth something. Next year it will be a totally different story. :cool:
This made me snicker. Up here in rural Maine (and in many other parts of this country) many people are still stuck on dial-up and the rest of us are stuck with mediocre bandwidth on a good day. People can tout high-speed this and that, but until the internet providers can get their acts in gear and provide quality service worldwide, physical media is here to stay. I stream Netflix to my house, but if I want anything of quality for video, I buy physical media.

What boggles my mind is why the movie industry hasn't just started releasing movies on SD cards. Everyone has them, they are cheap to produce and they can store lots of data. Optical disks have always been such a crappy technology and too prone to scratching and damaging.
 
It's called an external HD. ;) I don't see why everyone has to upgrade the internal HDD all the time.:rolleyes:

I see OWC has come out with a new (well at least I haven't noticed it before) bus powered firewire drive that would probably make a good companion to the new Mini:

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http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/EliteALmini/eSATA_FW800_FW400_USB

I think the real problem is for people who are looking to get better performance out of their drive via SSDs or 7200RPM internal drives.
 
As to USB3, are you out of your mind here as Apple will not ship USB3 until it is included in the chipsets it is using. You shoot your credibility dead when you imply that Apple should ship features its suppliers haven't even delivered yet.

Yes the design seems to be pretty good. However your whine about the specs is BS. Nobody is shipping USB3 in machines built around off the shelf chipsets. That is because nobody is supporting USB3 yet, but feel free to find information on Intels or NVidias web sites that indicate otherwise. To put it simply Apple can't ship what doesn't exist.


Dave

Just because Intel and AMD are not supporting USB3 in their controller chips until next year does not mean that others are following suit. Notebooks such as the Asus N71JV-X1 with USB3 have already been launched. Nothing stopping Apple, except the suspicion that Apple might be holding out for Light Peak. Probably the same reason that Apple never bothered with eSATA.
 
Built-in power supply?! NO THANKS!!!

You guys won't be foaming at the mouth for this thing when your power supply fails, like it did in my Time Capsule. When (not if) that happens, you'll be totally hosed.

I usually admire Apple for their design prowess, but when they put the power supply inside the device, rendering it virtually un-swappable, it makes me wonder if they've lost their minds. Once the power supply fails, it makes your device (Time Capsule, Mac Mini) a VERY expensive brick.
 
All the misinformation. You mean my assumption that most like most computers with DVI the mac would have dual link? Ok bad assumption that Apple was keeping up. But where is the rest of my misinformation.
You see what happens when you don't think about what you're typing? ;)

The mini is still an underpowered, unexpandable, expensive little box. There really is no Apple choice at all for someone who wants a normal headless computer that takes normal components.
Compared to what? If you take a look at all the other alternatives and at laptops you'll see the same thing. The problem with Apple has been the giant gap between something like the iMac and the Mac Pro. There isn't a Mac which has the power/price from the iMac but the form factor from the Mac Pro. The mini was never intended to fill that gap, it's simply a completely different device. At first it was an entry level Mac, it was meant to be easy to use and the most inexpensive Mac you could get, not the most expandable. This changed to being to a small but powerful desktop machine that could do some multimedia and some server tasks. And still it wasn't and isn't meant to be a super expandable box like the Mac Pro and fill the gap between the iMac and Mac Pro.

Btw, the mini is expandable since you can use usb and firewire devices with it. It's just not as expandable as the Mac Pro where you can easily swap memory and hard drives or use PCI-E cards. It also isn't underpowered, it can do a lot of things really good and now with the 8 GB of memory it can do it even better. I've used a Mac mini for the past year for a lot of virtualisation with VMware Fusion. I've upgraded the machine to 4 GB of memory and a 256 GB SSD. The SSD is what brought the speed increase, not the 2 GHz cpu and not the 4 GB of memory. I wasn't able to max out the cpu by using virtualisation, I was only able to get it up to 140% cpu usage by playing 1080p content in Flash or Silverlight in Safari. Most Mac mini users see similar results. That doesn't mean it can run everything and it can run it as fast as the Mac Pro. In the end the mini is underpowered for some tasks but so is the Mac Pro ;) Unfortunately it is very common that people underestimate what that little box can do. It doesn't always have to be big to be good and fast.

Actually they have already started to roll out the 1000MB/s internet connections. Everyone will have minimum 100MB/s next year.
My network is 1 Gbit/s and it would be awesome if my computers could actually use it. For me a Gbit NIC is mandatory (not really a problem since it has become the standard on non-netbook devices). 100 MB/s is quite the speed, same goes for 1000 MB/s. I think you actually mean 100 Mb/s and 1000 Mb/s (aka 1 Gb/s). 100 Mb/s is becoming a standard in some areas but in most areas you'll probably have to wait years and years. In the are where I live they are saying the entire city will get 100 Mb/s next year. Unfortunately it's something they're saying about 3 years now... Due to a lot of problems they keep postponing it. I wish we could get 100 Mb/s next year though :(
 
100GB? I wish. My ISP has a 60GB cap and 2$/Gig overage charge.

So if I was at cap and downloaded a single uncompressed Blu Ray (~50G) it would cost and an extra $100 in data charges alone.

I pay 70$ per month for the 100 GB Cap, people who pay the "normal" 40$ per month get 30 GB...
 
Really ? You mean my ISP, who gives me 10 mbps (megabits, not megabytes) with a 100 GB cap per month is going to suddenly increase my bandwidth 1000% and remove my 2 BD disc limit ?

That sounds great! Can't wait. :rolleyes:

I guess I'll continue enjoying my HD movies on Blu-ray while you keep waiting for them to even become available in a downloadable format. And I'll continue lending my movies out to friends while you keep explaining to them that the movie can't be played back on other devices because of the DRM on them.

Sorry about that, I meant 1000Mb/s. We can already get 100Mb/s connection little over 30€ per month. No caps!

And who said I wasn´t enjoying life? ;)
 
What boggles my mind is why the movie industry hasn't just started releasing movies on SD cards. Everyone has them, they are cheap to produce and they can store lots of data. Optical disks have always been such a crappy technology and too prone to scratching and damaging.

Among other reasons, data in solid state media can be corrupted. Also, the long term stability is questionable. Pressed Optical disk, on the other hand, will last 50 to 100 years.
 
If you have a 2010 MacBook Pro - I really don't see what you are missing out on. I have been wanting a Mini forever - but have always bought something else (iMacs, MBPs). Here I am again, ready to make a purchase, but I feel the Mini is going to get edged out again - and I am thinking about the MBP. I don't use my laptops as laptops for the most part as well. I really use them as desktops. You should look into getting one of these Henge docks (for like $60) - then you will have the best of both worlds and no regrets:

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They seem to be out of stock at the moment (I guess they sold a ton of them and needed to get more manufactured). The price can't be beat - and it seems like it will do exactly what I need by turning a MBP into a good desktop system.

Thank you OldMike, I had no idea these existed. I would still need a new monitor and mouse/keyboard if I sell the iMac. Wonderful option though and definitely solves the desktop/portable question. :)
 
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