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New Mac Mini Announced! [MERGED]
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No it didn't. The only Mac with dual link DVI were the old non-unibody MacBook Pro and the Mac Pro. Anything else including the mini had mini-DVI. The difference? Mini-DVI is single link DVI and thus limited to 1920x1200. What does HDMI do right now? 1920x1200. Since HDMI is compatible with DVI you only need a fairly cheap cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other end. Guess what's supplied with the new Mac mini?
The mini-DisplayPort was the only thing on the mini that could drive a display with a resolution of 2560x1600.
What did you loose on the mini? Exactly, nothing
You actually gained something: the use of HDMI without any hazzle which is really really nice since a lot of mini owners use it as some sort of htpc.I hardly believe that considering all the misinformation in your post...
The Mac mini was a great device and it still is with this new small revision. However, the fact they increased the price (it's 250 !!! more expensive in .nl; considering a price tag of 799 this is a >25% increase which is ridiculous) makes the mini very unattractive, especially as a media centre. They simply got rid of the cheapest model which is a stupid thing to do with all the alternatives out there. The other weird thing they did was sticking the sd on the back of the device which isn't the best place on a desktop machine regarding ergonomics; it simply adds to the clean look of the device (i.o.w. form over function).
I'm wondering how one could replace the hdd, it seems impossible to do with the new design
I imagine it's due to their desire to have everything stream from the web. DVD is included for legacy, but they want the disk to die in favor of their desire to sell through the iTunes store. I do like the new design and including hdmi. Sadly, my Mac mini is a workhorse and I don't see a need to replace it soon enough to enjoy this iteration. It runs almost 24/7 as a media station and there is no end in sight.
Not yet, but it´s coming for sure. HD downloads will be the future. All physical formats will die (CD/DVD/Blu-ray/you name it). It´s just a fact.
I know the change can upset some people, but the change is coming. So you just have to find a way to deal with it.
Jobs knows this too. That´s why there´s NEVER going to be Blu-ray in Mac.
Adapter Included!
I'm just happy that Apple included the HDMI to DVI adapter. They never include the adapters any more; instead, they opt to make an extra $20.00.
I'm just happy that Apple included the HDMI to DVI adapter. They never include the adapters any more; instead, they opt to make an extra $20.00.
I just priced out a complete BTO upgraded mini... $500 for 8gb ram?! Hellooooooo newegg! There's simply NO reason to buy ram from Apple. I've always thought that, but THIS is ridiculous.
Great, then you saw the "then" part of the if statement -- feel happy that you have a higher spec'd computer for the same price.
All the misinformation. You mean my assumption that most like most computers with DVI the mac would have dual link? Ok bad assumption that Apple was keeping up. But where is the rest of my misinformation.
The mini is still an underpowered, unexpandable, expensive little box. There really is no Apple choice at all for someone who wants a normal headless computer that takes normal components.
Yeah i know i dont know if i will since i want a macbook pro for the portablity the 13 model then get a mini display port to hdmi adapter and use that when i am home as my media computer and still move my mini as my main computer as i want to get away from windows more and more
Actually, From your description bluray would be the elitist route. Preference for special features and highest possible quality, etc. As a filmmaker and video producer I concur on your desire to have the highest quality, but this is a consumer oriented machine aimed at getting as much out to consumers as possible. I'll never forget the time I pointed out the chrominance banding in a friends satalitte movie channels. He cursed me for months for showing it to him, saying now he sees it in every movie. Most consumers do not notice the poor quality of the signal unless it is a backward step from the previous codec. Bluray failed to get into the market enough before streaming, so many people failed to see the quality difference. Pricing has also influenced the market, with bluray being the most expensive choice and streaming/on demand cable coming in cheaper.
Okay, I know I'm jumping the gun by saying that Blu Ray is dead.
I just wished that people would stop falling for the optical disc or as I like to call it our future land fill.
What the industry has discovered is that the average user is not running off to update/replace their current DVD version of the Wizard of Oz (just an example) for the Blu Ray version.
I understand that the bandwidth isn't yet to deliver Full HD quality (1080P) as fast as we all would like. But it's coming. In the meantime why doesn't anyone come up with an alternative to Blu Ray. I've said this before, but why can't I go to my local CVS and plug my re-usable SD card or USB Thumbdrive into the Movie Vending machine, load the latest release of a movie on to it and then go home and transfer it to my hard drive?
So who's replacing their current Mac Mini for the new model? I'm going to wait and see if the hard drive is replaceable.
Apple just had to raise the price!
Apple just had to raise the price!
Interesting comments.
This Mini update isn't perfect but it sure is nice. Nice to the point it doesn't desrve all the disrespect it is getting in this thread. More so I think we might see a very interesting bump to the machine early next year when the new SoC processors come from Intel and AMD. That is speculation of course but the new case seems to be ideal for future lower power processors.
The only thing that really bothers me about the unit is the built in power supply. Otherwise the hardware is what I expected with Apple concentrating on raw GPU performance over convient Intel IGPU.
Dave
The only problem being the supplied RAM size. So far though the case looks like a massive improvement over the old. Anything that makes access easier is a win.
Never used such.
If it is a solid block then I doubt they would be using it for an antenna. As to CNCing the machines are not a huge cost issue, the traditional problem is the cost of the machinist. That is not a problem if you are paying them only 3 or 400 dollars a month.
The thing that actually bothers me is where is the grounding for this aluminum case? Once you run 120 volts into such a package it would seem that a ground would be required. I just didn't see one on the AC inlet.
I'm not following this.
In anyevent there is a big disadvantage with the built in supply. It makes the use on DC systems more difficult. Alternative power supplies made the old Minis useful on RVs and Boats for example. To me the new power supply is a mixed bag.
Even though they may be getting the unibody case made for cheap that is a relative term. The chassis is still likely to be very expensive compared to a plastic case.
There is nothing good about BluRay. I know that upsets people that have been hoodwinked into believing otherwise but it is the truth. Personnally I don't want to have anything at all to do with BluRay or support the idiotcy that justifies the policies of the BluRay organization.
I haven't read the detailed specs yet but I'm wondering how fast that port is? If it can read fast it would be a good place for a boot partition. Of course that would mean a fast SD card of 64GB or more.
You don't have to rely upon Apple for HTPC software.
This Mini update isn't perfect but it sure is nice. Nice to the point it doesn't desrve all the disrespect it is getting in this thread. More so I think we might see a very interesting bump to the machine early next year when the new SoC processors come from Intel and AMD. That is speculation of course but the new case seems to be ideal for future lower power processors.
The only thing that really bothers me about the unit is the built in power supply. Otherwise the hardware is what I expected with Apple concentrating on raw GPU performance over convient Intel IGPU.
Dave
Elitist was perhaps the wrong term. In that instance I wasn't referring to technology, but more social use. What's the correct term for only catering to english speaking, non disabled people?
That's only a side point though. The reality is that Apple are ignoring a playback technology that supplies special features, subtitles, 1080p quality film, 3D playback and restricting us to sub standard, crippled, downloadable content. No excuses. If windows machines can do it, I don't understand why Apple can't. Optical drives being old tech isn't an excuse either, I still see a super drive in the new Mini.
No - if it was about getting as much out to consumers as possible - it would include BR.
What it IS aimed at, as with all Apple products, is getting as much out OF consumers as possible, whilst delivering the cheapest to build, highest price to sell machine possible.
I'm waiting for a disassembly... as HDD and ODD would have to be replaced with something decent!