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New Mac Mini at Macworld San Francisco 2009?
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There are no such "space constraints" in the MacBook. Previous models had Firewire. Apple designed the new MacBook to not have Firewire. If they had wanted it to have it, it would have had it. I don't think a revised mini will have Firewire. Apple wants to upsell us to the iMac.
Nowhere, really.
Just because I'm young doesn't mean that I don't like or appreciate the classics. The kids may listen to the rap music (which gives them the brain damage, you see?), but I tend to separate myself from the current stereotypical teenager vibe.
Is it wrong that one of my favorite musicians is Cat Stevens? I like the 40s, 50s, and 60s!
I think there might be
If not a new one a speed bump.
It needs a bit of both really
then again they could kill it? still seeing these 'Mac Mini discontinued' rumors
I highly doubt it though
The haiku responses are provocative.
They are insightful
Yet concise
Perhaps a mixture of both
I find them to be cool.
Cool. I got a kick out of your Burma-Shave comment. Chances are, most other readers won't understand it.Nowhere, really.
...but I tend to separate myself from the current stereotypical teenager vibe.
Burma Shave story and examples
Those, and the signs giving the distance to Wall Drugs, were the major entertainment going cross country back in the pre-Interstate days.
(when I was stationed in Korea on the DMZ, we saw Wall Drug signs)
Those, and the signs giving the distance to Wall Drugs, were the major entertainment going cross country back in the pre-Interstate days.
(when I was stationed in Korea on the DMZ, we saw Wall Drug signs)
TOTALLY agree...
that Apple sorely needs a midrange desktop computer for those who want more than an iMac but less than a Mac Pro. I'm a perfect example of someone who would plunk down my money in a heartbeat for such a product. I just sold my MacMini (Core 2 Duo, 2 gig RAM) because it wasn't enough for me; I want a headless Mac so I can make use of my monitor; and the Mac Pro offers too much (I don't need an eight core machine) and at the same time, too little (not enough memory, too few USB 2.0 ports, no SD card reader) at WAY too high a price point. I have two netbooks, which are my primary machines as I spend most of my time writing and emailing, and my desktop is a triple core, AMD processor Gateway with 6 gig of RAM, 500 gig hard drive and six USB ports not to mention four card readers. For this machine I paid, brand new, $550. I mean, it just becomes ridiculous after awhile. I would rather have a Mac but actually feel that they can't be bothered to make the product I need. I am trying my hand at Hackintoshing the Gateway, but hopefully, Apple WILL bring out a new desktop in a more median price range. I don't mind paying a LITTLE more for a Mac than a PC, but $2000 more for something with a third of the RAM of my current machine is a bit much.
that Apple sorely needs a midrange desktop computer for those who want more than an iMac but less than a Mac Pro. I'm a perfect example of someone who would plunk down my money in a heartbeat for such a product. I just sold my MacMini (Core 2 Duo, 2 gig RAM) because it wasn't enough for me; I want a headless Mac so I can make use of my monitor; and the Mac Pro offers too much (I don't need an eight core machine) and at the same time, too little (not enough memory, too few USB 2.0 ports, no SD card reader) at WAY too high a price point. I have two netbooks, which are my primary machines as I spend most of my time writing and emailing, and my desktop is a triple core, AMD processor Gateway with 6 gig of RAM, 500 gig hard drive and six USB ports not to mention four card readers. For this machine I paid, brand new, $550. I mean, it just becomes ridiculous after awhile. I would rather have a Mac but actually feel that they can't be bothered to make the product I need. I am trying my hand at Hackintoshing the Gateway, but hopefully, Apple WILL bring out a new desktop in a more median price range. I don't mind paying a LITTLE more for a Mac than a PC, but $2000 more for something with a third of the RAM of my current machine is a bit much.
You need to stop making statements that have no basis. You have no idea what the products are to be released in the coming months/years. No one except Apple does and even then, things can change at the last moment. So enough with the insinuated inside knowledge.
What does "So yeah" mean?
So... just SATA then.
And there's no such thing as "internal" FireWire.
The G4's (Sawtooth) had an internal Firewire port and other brands also include them. The OP was talking eSATA, not SATA.
In case you didn't understand my goal in all this, it's to get the current Mac mini at around 300$ or make the new one a lot better and leave it at the current price. I'm just saying that, especially with the economic crisis, it's a little hard spending 800 big ones for a barebones, 14-month-old unupdated computer. If I just wanted a powerful computer I would get the HP but I want to try the Mac. Also, I think it's pointless having such a small desktop computer because a desktop computer isn't meant to be portable, that's just my opinion.
By the way, this is a forum, I'm completely allowed to state my opinion with the rule "no foul language", which you're currently not respecting: "bitchin'". So don't tell me what to do. I may be a newbie here on MacRumors, but I have a pretty good reputation on other forums (such as www.afterdawn.com great forum by the way) so don't treat me like a newbie.
Let's see, you come to a Mac forum, call yourself PCFan, and in one day post several messages derogatory to Apple and its computer products and try to start a flame war. Nice start!
A $300 mac isn't going to happen, ever. And when they do update the mini you won't be paying "800 big ones" for an out-of-date computer. Having a small foot print a la the mini is something people like to go for, its great for saving space and is pleasing to the eyes. So again before you bitch some more, wait until it is updated, and if you don't like it, go buy the HP please, and stop all the complaining.
Ain't gonna happen, so just go buy that $300 eMachine. BTW - none of those $300 PCs are even close to the Mini in terms of overall performance.
What you don't seem to realize is that the 2 year old 2 gHz Mac Mini outperforms any PC that is (1) in the same form factor and (2) equal to or less than it in cost ($800). You can get a PC with a faster processor in that ff, but because those manufacturers skimp on the other things (e.g., L2 cache) you end up with a weaker computer. Go over to geekbench and check out the winblows-based on P/T8xxx series processors (such as that found in the Dell Studio Hybrid). They routinely score less than the 2 gHz Mini (T7200). The gHz myth is alive and well, thanks to Dell and the like.
So build yourself a hackintosh. It's really easy. Under OS X mine scores a geekbench of nearly 7,000, but when I boot in XP Pro it's just over 5,000. Just make sure you buy a retail copy of OS X.
Once again, that's fine for you, but there are plenty out there who are perfectly happy with the Mini. Mine handles high bitrate Blu-ray rips at 1080p with DD or DTS audio with no problem. IMO, it is the most elegant computer on the market today. And I hope it is surpassed come MWSF.
Golly gee, Wally, I'm real sorry.
I'm not telling you what to do, just giving you advice. I'm simply stating that you have two options: buy that $300 PC or build a hackintosh. There are no other alternatives based upon your needs.
You want the Mini to be based on non-laptop components. You want it to be $300. How else can I treat you?
I don´t care much about the new upgraded specs, any improvement making the mini a better machine will be fine for me. The only thing I am begging for is, please Apple: KEEP FIREWIRE.
The question is, if Apple drops Firewire, what are your plans for a new machine?
I'd go for the white macbook used as a desktop machine, with my external monitor and usb keyboard.
Maybe the low end imac too... The thing is, if the mini has no firewire I won´t buy a mini, and if it does, I will.
The question is, if Apple drops Firewire, what are your plans for a new machine?
I'd go for the white macbook used as a desktop machine, with my external monitor and usb keyboard.
Maybe the low end imac too... The thing is, if the mini has no firewire I won´t buy a mini, and if it does, I will.
The consumer desktop is facing extintion - the macmini is going to die off to simplify the mac desktop line to 2 (imac & macpro). hopefully the bottom spec imac is brought down in price to $899.
The Macbook & iphone are apples "switcher" products now - with the fabled iphone pro/tablet being a likely addition.
The Macbook & iphone are apples "switcher" products now - with the fabled iphone pro/tablet being a likely addition.
No, it isn't.
Not any time soon, it appears. If Apple EOLs the Mini, then the number of hackintoshes will increase exponentially. Apple's making a ton of cash off the Mini and if anything, Apple makes good business decisions. The Mini will be around for a while.
Ain't gonna happen, so just go buy that $300 eMachine. BTW - none of those $300 PCs are even close to the Mini in terms of overall performance.
What you don't seem to realize is that the 2 year old 2 gHz Mac Mini outperforms any PC that is (1) in the same form factor and (2) equal to or less than it in cost ($800). You can get a PC with a faster processor in that ff, but because those manufacturers skimp on the other things (e.g., L2 cache) you end up with a weaker computer. Go over to geekbench and check out the winblows-based on P/T8xxx series processors (such as that found in the Dell Studio Hybrid). They routinely score less than the 2 gHz Mini (T7200). The gHz myth is alive and well, thanks to Dell and the like.
So build yourself a hackintosh. It's really easy. Under OS X mine scores a geekbench of nearly 7,000, but when I boot in XP Pro it's just over 5,000. Just make sure you buy a retail copy of OS X.
Once again, that's fine for you, but there are plenty out there who are perfectly happy with the Mini. Mine handles high bitrate Blu-ray rips at 1080p with DD or DTS audio with no problem. IMO, it is the most elegant computer on the market today. And I hope it is surpassed come MWSF.
Golly gee, Wally, I'm real sorry.
I'm not telling you what to do, just giving you advice. I'm simply stating that you have two options: buy that $300 PC or build a hackintosh. There are no other alternatives based upon your needs.
You want the Mini to be based on non-laptop components. You want it to be $300. How else can I treat you?
1) I said around 300$ for the current one, after the new one comes out, the current one won't be current anymore so the price is supposed to go down. Or, make the new Mac mini alot better and leave it at 800$ and it'll be worth it.
2) I need help with Hackintosh. I tried it on my current PC, it worked a long time ago (everything except for the graphics) so I thought it was pointless so I re-installed Windows. When I tried to go back (I tried Kalyway and Zephyroth) it doesn't work anymore.
Having an AMD processor doesn't help the situation at all. I'd be really glad if you would help me.
3) Wanting a machine for a cheaper price doesn't mean I'm a newbie. Once you know my age you would think I'm a newbie, but I'm not. It's good not to be one on the internet but it's good to be one for having a social life.
You're the perfect example of a Mac user living in fantasy land
I'm in fantasy land too so you're not alone.I would happily buy a couple updated Minis with those limitations. I just hope they don't cripple it in some other way, such as x1300 instead of 9400M.
Yes, the Apple adapters are expensive, but I don't know where you guys are getting these $60/$50 numbers. They retail for US$29, right?
How about this? I think the colors could help sales.
Or maybe a mini with an opaque top that glows different colors that the user can select.
1) I said around 300$ for the current one, after the new one comes out, the current one won't be current anymore so the price is supposed to go down. Or, make the new Mac mini alot better and leave it at 800$ and it'll be worth it.
2) I need help with Hackintosh. I tried it on my current PC, it worked a long time ago (everything except for the graphics) so I thought it was pointless so I re-installed Windows. When I tried to go back (I tried Kalyway and Zephyroth) it doesn't work anymore.
Having an AMD processor doesn't help the situation at all. I'd be really glad if you would help me.
3) Wanting a machine for a cheaper price doesn't mean I'm a newbie. Once you know my age you would think I'm a newbie, but I'm not. It's good not to be one on the internet but it's good to be one for having a social life.
Here is what I suggest. Delete this account, create a new one and name it something other than "PCFan". Then come back and not act like a newbie who is here to start flame wars. Then maybe you'll be taken seriously. Until then, have a great time with your HP. I hear it's a good machine but obviously, I wouldn't know. =)
How about this? I think the colors could help sales.
Or maybe a mini with an opaque top that glows different colors that the user can select.
Very well done! I do remember a patent involving a surface which changes color using LEDs. This would work really well for the resurgence of the Mini.