The thermal solution on the new MP is amazing. Not sure how I feel about an external PSU.
I am 80% certain that I will get one.
I am 80% certain that I will get one.
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Sounds like they like this idea in the mac mini forum. That might tell people something.
If they sell this at 1500 then it is a MAYBE depending on some software tests. It would be as a souped-up mini though, not as a MP. More than that and I may as well buy that new lego mindstorms set due out this year and a cheap refurb laptop.
If they sell this at 1500 then it is a MAYBE depending on some software tests. It would be as a souped-up mini though, not as a MP. More than that and I may as well buy that new lego mindstorms set due out this year and a cheap refurb laptop.
To all the plastic believers:
It's an aluminum enclosure. He said that and it's on the website as well. Please listen before making uneducated comments. Apple would never use a plastic design in there systems. They have made it clear that aluminum is the standard they work with.
It's an aluminum enclosure. He said that and it's on the website as well. Please listen before making uneducated comments. Apple would never use a plastic design in there systems. They have made it clear that aluminum is the standard they work with.
so its the base of Dyson fan, I am really worried about pricing. I was thinking of moving to the Pro once it was announced because of the lack of post purchase upgrade feasibility of the other options but this appears worse, as in more money up front for fixed graphics, internal storage, and cpu.
Worse, now if any of it goes bad the whole thing goes in the shop. This is what annoys me the most. Lose a GPU and whole thing is in the shop, internal storage goes bad, off to the shop, lose the fan.... well you get the picture. Why do I think they had the enclosure drawn well before engineering got into the picture?
Worse, now if any of it goes bad the whole thing goes in the shop. This is what annoys me the most. Lose a GPU and whole thing is in the shop, internal storage goes bad, off to the shop, lose the fan.... well you get the picture. Why do I think they had the enclosure drawn well before engineering got into the picture?
Look at this picture my wife just made. Pretty awesome.
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It should be 'their', showing ownership. Please learn to speak before typing on blogs.
JUST KIDDING BRO. LOL
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It should be 'their', showing ownership. Please learn to speak before typing on blogs.
JUST KIDDING BRO. LOL
lol. I just saw the apple presentation and had to think of that cabinet / capsule where Vader puts on his mask.
Seriously, I think that just might be what I need. If the prices aren't skyrocketing any further, I'll get one. Will serve me well enough. That said, I could have done very well with the old design - possible a little bit tweaked here and there - too. Am a big fan of it design-wise. But it would have been quite odd for Apple keeping it, after how many years? They moved on as a company as well, like it or not.
Wondering if I've to be concerned about dust in case I'm not using it for a month or so? Guess not
well, at least we'll have drivers for E3 xeons and newer graphics cards for hackintoshes...
i'm still very interested in the real deal.
i'm still very interested in the real deal.
you know few years back there were very limited GPU options on G5 Powermacs and Mac Pro's.
only recently it was possible to put PC cards unflashed to Mac Pro thanks to 10.8 drivers. sure you could get flashed cards that were more expensive.
so, if those cards are proprietary BUT removable, thats a good thing. you'll get optimized performance for OS X. yeah, it will be expensive but you're buying a Mac Pro - it was never a value computer.
actually this new machine could spur a market for Mac video cards and Thunderbolt expansions. there will be a lot of whining for next 2-3 years but as everyone will move toward 4K displays (and mass 4K creation), those old Mac Pro's wont be good enough. by then, it'll be normal to have 512GB SSD as your only drive in Mac Pro and most of us will have some RAID enclosure tucked away for video files. its the future.
only recently it was possible to put PC cards unflashed to Mac Pro thanks to 10.8 drivers. sure you could get flashed cards that were more expensive.
so, if those cards are proprietary BUT removable, thats a good thing. you'll get optimized performance for OS X. yeah, it will be expensive but you're buying a Mac Pro - it was never a value computer.
actually this new machine could spur a market for Mac video cards and Thunderbolt expansions. there will be a lot of whining for next 2-3 years but as everyone will move toward 4K displays (and mass 4K creation), those old Mac Pro's wont be good enough. by then, it'll be normal to have 512GB SSD as your only drive in Mac Pro and most of us will have some RAID enclosure tucked away for video files. its the future.
I have the same take but come to an slightly different conclusion.
You're amazed at the engineering here and so am I. It's an engineering feat! Less than 10 inches high and under 7 inches in diameter, wow! In fact it's so engineered that they may have engineered themselves right out of a market. Whether or not the submarket it creates is big enough to support it is one question. It looks like they cut a lot of costs with propriety and we'll have to see if those cost benefits outweigh an initially smaller market. Of course if the market grows to significant size then with all these cost-cutting moves Apple will have pulled off another commercial success.
Notice I said "commercial success" for we won't know how theses tiny tubes stand up against the competition for a bit yet.
Awesome, so who're going to buy one?
The new Mac Pro looks like a genuinely great, powerful, high-end computer for the top of the line iMac 27in customer who wants a different display. It is going to be one of those beautiful to look at Apple sculptures.
For those who identify themselves as power users the Mac Pro is effectively dead. It's time to quit whining about the fact that Mac Pro users do not have a good choice of high-end GPUs and just get a PC that will use available GPUs.
For those who identify themselves as power users the Mac Pro is effectively dead. It's time to quit whining about the fact that Mac Pro users do not have a good choice of high-end GPUs and just get a PC that will use available GPUs.
Only 4 Ram slots ?
And we are still waiting for the optical drive crowd, all two of them .
extra pictures and some details up close at anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7057/up-close-with-the-new-mac-pro
Looks like normal RAM but proprietary PCIe SSD and graphic cards...
PSU should be external as well ??!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7057/up-close-with-the-new-mac-pro
Looks like normal RAM but proprietary PCIe SSD and graphic cards...
PSU should be external as well ??!
Now we have a choices in minis. There is the laptop-in-a-box cheapie that is plenty powerful for most uses and will soon come with (far?) better Haswell graphics.
Now there is the premium, super-duper mini for those who really want a premium experience while surfing the net or downloading iTunes media.
What more could we want?
Uhmm well i'd really like to see how this trashcan performs compared to a superpumped hackintosh...
It might be surprisingly decent... Imho! And uhmm where are nVIDIA cards That's a big lack me thinks
It might be surprisingly decent... Imho! And uhmm where are nVIDIA cards
That's a big lack me thinks
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Well, they could kinda make a dual cpu socket version just by making the cylinder just a tad higher without the need to change much else than the cpu logic board (and obviously the heatsink and enclosure but they are the cheap parts so no worries)