I'll be using a Win/Linux workstation in the next two years. And I don't think I'm alone either.
Mobile chips are nothing to be happy about.
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I'll be using a Win/Linux workstation in the next two years. And I don't think I'm alone either.
Mobile chips are nothing to be happy about.
Fair enough . Just don't come crying when you want to upgrade to TB 3.0, along with all the TB stuff you allegedly own, and find out you can't just pop in a PCIe card to get it done.
Or if your single PCIe storage thingy goes belly up, or a bit tired over the years, and proprietary parts don't look like such a hot idea anymore . And so on .
Basically what other folks have said around the mac pro mini comments.
1. SDD is great for applications, but price prohibitive for 5-10 TB of video storage. These extra drives should go inside the computer not on the desk. Desk is for external backups and not primary storage
2. GPUs sounds fast now, but what about 5 years after you have bought the machine?
3. Where do the industry specific add-on cards go?
1. SDD is great for applications, but price prohibitive for 5-10 TB of video storage. These extra drives should go inside the computer not on the desk. Desk is for external backups and not primary storage
2. GPUs sounds fast now, but what about 5 years after you have bought the machine?
3. Where do the industry specific add-on cards go?
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At first when I saw the keynote, it looked kinda of "meh" to be honest.
But when I read about it on apple's page, this thing is actually really bad ass.
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
unified thermal core. 7 teraflops. One fan.
But when I read about it on apple's page, this thing is actually really bad ass.
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
unified thermal core. 7 teraflops. One fan.
I am still in shock!
This is what took so long APPLE sitting around and trying out how to stuff a Computer into a small TrashCan? UGG.
So disappointed right now and I was all excited about a new MacPro too.
This is what took so long APPLE sitting around and trying out how to stuff a Computer into a small TrashCan? UGG.
So disappointed right now and I was all excited about a new MacPro too.
Hmm seems like it has only 4 RAM slots which would limit you to 32GBs of DDR RAM or you could fill it up with 16GB ECC chips that are expensive as hell now (=64GB RAM). PCIe SSD seems to be replaceable (looks like only one slot), there is some kind of a slot. Probably makes sense to have at least RAM and SSD replacable, although Im not hyped up about those integrated GPU chips.
I remember 2007-08 Macbook Pros, their GPUs would fail in three to four years. I cant imagine something like that to happen in such an expensive computer.... no way to replace it....
I still hope there is some kind of slot for custom cards.. but I think not. Having integrated GPUs probably solves the problem of Display output, those 4K displays will be probably driven via those TB ports and that integrated GPUs.
I kinda like it too but it will be way expensive for me. I can see the future but I am not sure I like it from my perspective. My next desktop will be probably 80 percent hackintosh.
I am just glad they havent forgotten Pro users at all. There is still interest on Apple's side to create desktop computers and pro hardware and software (whatever that will mean in future).
I really like OS X Mavericks though - seems like they listened to complaints and fixed everything - that OS seems aimed toward pro users so all-in-all, it was a good day.
Cant wait for new pro software and those 4K displays.
After reading the presentation at the Apple site, I want to change my guesstimate to $3000 for low end model. Maybe $2699, but I doubt it.
Pretty disappointing to see all the negative comments. THEY'RE UPDATING THE MAC PRO you guys should be excited, or at the very least, glad that this is happening.
Sure, you can be that negative guy, and want a square form, upgradable this and that - but you're an APPLE owner. I seriously have a hard time understanding how supposedly "professional" people, can be so narrow minded and hard to please. If you want upgradability, you should have gone over to PC years ago. Bitching about a seemingly grandiose upgrade, while we have had to hear you bitch for years about that there wasn't (probably) gonna be an upgrade at all, just makes you guys look super lame. Sorry to say.
Sure, you can be that negative guy, and want a square form, upgradable this and that - but you're an APPLE owner. I seriously have a hard time understanding how supposedly "professional" people, can be so narrow minded and hard to please. If you want upgradability, you should have gone over to PC years ago. Bitching about a seemingly grandiose upgrade, while we have had to hear you bitch for years about that there wasn't (probably) gonna be an upgrade at all, just makes you guys look super lame. Sorry to say.
After reading through the specs on Apple's site, two things are apparent.
1) Apple insists you use Thunderbolt.
2) Apple is trying very hard to discourage use of Adobe's video products.
I like the aluminum can and the single fan design. It looks like 4-channel RAM is upgradable, which is nice. I just have to figure out the cost / justification of moving from a mini-SAS RAID box to a Thunderbolt RAID box, and also an external CUDA GPU system, if that's even possible.
1) Apple insists you use Thunderbolt.
2) Apple is trying very hard to discourage use of Adobe's video products.
I like the aluminum can and the single fan design. It looks like 4-channel RAM is upgradable, which is nice. I just have to figure out the cost / justification of moving from a mini-SAS RAID box to a Thunderbolt RAID box, and also an external CUDA GPU system, if that's even possible.
I wonder if it's going to be a silent beast
Good point. I hope that it does not sound like a jumbo jet under a heavy workload....
Does that mean it is vulnerable to attack by a single starfighter? How big is the exhaust port?
Cheese Grater to Garbage Can !
Ha...
So we flipped from "Cheese Grater" to "Garbage Can" !
I'm currently loving my Cheese Grater.....
Ha...
So we flipped from "Cheese Grater" to "Garbage Can" !
I'm currently loving my Cheese Grater.....
A big drawback by using low end cpus. With 2 cpu solution you will have 8 slots and the double memory bandwidth. The pro xeons works up to 8 cpus. That is 32 dimms. The pros will leave apple now. High end PC's can handle 512 GB ram.
Link is up
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
OH come on it's BRILLIANT. Think about the design for cooling. They will have high power chips etc, and need to cool it down. How better than a cylinder.
Steve Jobs is applauding in his grave.
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
OH come on it's BRILLIANT. Think about the design for cooling. They will have high power chips etc, and need to cool it down. How better than a cylinder.
Steve Jobs is applauding in his grave.
1. I don't store my footage internally, I use Thunderbolt or Fiber as my primary drives (which are faster than the internals on the Mac Pro anyway as the internal SATA is 6 Gbps and Thunderbolt is 10 Gbps. Hard drives can't saturate SATA 3 anyway) then backup to a SAN. So it's not an issue for me.
2. I just sell it and buy the new one if that's the case, no big deal. The current Mac Pro is 4 year old tech. Anything we get is a massive improvement.
3. They're all going external via Thunderbolt. And the new 20Gbps spec will do nothing but spur that movement. No complaints here.
From the looks of it the main "cards" are in a triangle.
One for CPU and 2 for graphics.
iGarbageCan
6 Thunderbolt 2, NO FW800.
Memory the only thing that can be upgraded. Those "Dual GPU's" look awfully "proprietary" as well.
I can't wait until the Xeon drivers for this go public so a proper Hackint0sh can be built around the latest Xeons (with full power management support).
6 Thunderbolt 2, NO FW800.
Memory the only thing that can be upgraded. Those "Dual GPU's" look awfully "proprietary" as well.
I can't wait until the Xeon drivers for this go public so a proper Hackint0sh can be built around the latest Xeons (with full power management support).
What about my face? No upgrade? I don't see any specifics about anything at the moment, so I don't know that "no upgrade" is a criticism right now. Thanks for playing though.
Me too, mine is brand new and will serve my needs for years to come. I don't really do any gaming, my video editing is for personal use, and actually my box is over kill for my needs... Just the way I want it... I'll be upgrading some of my internal COMPONENTS soon, and with a smile.
The can will have to prove itself in the world before I would even consider it.