Couldn't disagree more, changed from a brutal self build PC to a Mac Studio and save over $3000.- a year in electricity with very similar performance. The machine pays for itself in 2 years and is pure profit every year after this. Buying an Apple desktop is free money and without the hassle of owning anything windows based. My big macho brag Pc has been sitting next to the mac studio, untouched from day 2 of getting the Studio.
Right. It couldn't possibly be more complicated than "turn on PC - room get hot" so all of science must be BS.
It's a very valid point that the annual energy cost of running a computer can now be a significant part of the "total cost of ownership" (probably always been true, but rising energy costs vs. 500W PC GPUs have bought it home) and Apple Silicon Macs win big on power consumption.
If I read your comments right, your response is in agreement with my post you responded?
Lol you can't be serious. Yes a 1000 watt PC will heat up a room. Maybe your ventilation and/or air conditioning is making you not notice it, but... I assure you, heat will heat up a room. lol.
A year or so back I debated whether to keep my home server/PVR running or leave the Studio running instead. When I measured, my M1 Max Studio idled at 15W which worked out at a bit over £40/yr if it was left 24/7.
However, if you're using a PC for home working (or are just a computing/gaming junkie) it can easily be on for 8-10 hours a day and the difference between a 100-500W PC and a 15-60W Studio can still add up - but, as I said in an earlier post, thats partly why laptops and Mini PCs with laptop-class processors are getting popular.
Completely agree, although if I was doing heavy compute from home I'd be asking for either a contribution to my electricity bill or them to pay for Azure/AWS etc. For the gamers, those running AAA titles aren't really the market for Macs in general. I do some light gaming, but I'd use the Windows install on my hackintosh for anything more serious. Even the same games are noticeably faster due to DirectX getting more attention.
Because you should compare it whatever best iGPU the competition can offer? Otherwise you might as well compare it to any random computer on the planet and whine that it doesn't have 10.000 CPUs. It is just as “apples to apples” as what you are doing, ie. Two random things that goes in a computer.
Ok. I'll continue to think I should be able to compare the best Mac GPU against the best PC GPU.
It's not using 1000w constantly. LOL! I had many pcs in my office at once running, NO ac/etc. The temps did not rise one degree. Again...I can assure you, my room temps did not rise.
If your PCs are running at literal room temp then you have been under-utlizing their computing power, or they are equipped with aggressively active cooling.
The important point is that - unless your "room" is a thermally isolated uniform block of aluminium - adding heat doesn't always mean "significantly raise the ambient temperature". In reality its affected by many different factors. 1000W will turn a small, well-insulated room into an oven but it probably won't be noticeable in a large, high-ceilinged room.
That depends whether you're spending 8 hours a day playing Solitaire or spending 8 hours a day
So how big is the office? How high is the ceiling? What are the walls and floors made of? Are the windows double-glazed? Are they open? What's the outside temperature? Is their really no thermostatically controlled heating (which will run less if something else is putting out heat)? If you wanted to heat the room how much use do you think a 1kW heater would be?
Sure thing. Logic eludes you. got it. Hey, I am not ******** on your magical studio. I am waiting for a new Pro to be released. But I do use logic and common sense while discussing stuff. Unlike yourself where you claim my single pc tower turns my office into an inferno whenever it's on. Again, No "straw man" arguments here. I understand your arguing though...GOT IT!
...and the latter is one reason why relatively powerful personal workstations like the 2019 Mac Pro might be becoming a thing of the past. Once broadband connections are good enough (and, in many cases, its the server than needs the fast internet connection to other online data sources, not the user) you can rent more power online as and when you need it, and cloud service providers can build their data centres next to a hydro-electric dam in Alaska for cheap power and cooling.
Have you upgraded anything internally on the Mac Pro? I'm genuinely curious if Apple will ever release an updated full sized tower.Mhhhhhhh sitting on a 2019 mac pro becomes more and more frustrating
I highly doubt they will release anything upgradable. goes against what the bean counters want.
There's no point in arguing about this. You obviously don't understand how heat works.
