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I am sorry to hear about your MBA troubles. I trust that your local Apple Store will make it right. I by all means did not mean to imply there were only two MBA's in the entire world with faulty logic boards. Let me re-phrase. I would not let the current issue of faulty logic boards deter me from buying a new MBA. I have seen the benchmarks and played with them a few times at a couple of Apple Stores in different cities. What an amazing machine! Anyways, I hope that Apple takes care of you promptly.

Gonna be snow soon where I am from. :D

I have nothing but good things to say about both AppleCare, and my competent local Apple Store. I'm very experienced when it comes to bugs in new devices and never expect perfection. It's the nature of the hugely complex products we love.

My hope is simply that Apple takes action in a timely fashion as they sometimes do. If they go into denial like they do on some occasions, then it only makes matters worse. Time will tell.

I still feel the new MBA lineup is stellar... :)
 
Would any of you suggest a new MBA 13" maxed out freezing the entire machine while watching ESPN3 a potential logic board problem? Happens every time after about 5 min.



Fans and temps are normal, but machine requires a hard shutdown.

Thoughts/advice? Thanks in advance
 
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Would any of you suggest a new MBA 13" maxes out freezing them entire machine while watching ESPN3 a potential logic board problem? Happens every time after about 5 min.



Fans and temps are normal, but machine requires a hard shutdown.

Thoughts/advice? Thanks in advance

I tend to believe it is a logic board issue. My only reservation is the nature of the problems I've experienced on two 13" machines thus far. Issues like this show up quite readily during quality control checks. Therefore I see just one of two scenarios. Either they are seeing this and shipping them anyway due to internal pressure, or they are not testing enough units to discover it before putting them in the hands of the customers.

The reason I'm very concerned is the dreadful way Apple exacerbated "Antennagate".
 
I tend to believe it is a logic board issue. My only reservation is the nature of the problems I've experienced on two 13" machines thus far. Issues like this show up quite readily during quality control checks. Therefore I see just one of two scenarios. Either they are seeing this and shipping them anyway due to internal pressure, or they are not testing enough units to discover it before putting them in the hands of the customers.

The reason I'm very concerned is the dreadful way Apple exacerbated "Antennagate".

I made a genius appt. for tomorrow. I really can't understand it, as it was a fluke I found it. I can reproduce it every time, but only on that website while streaming. I hope it does not need replacing.
 
I was going to order the 11" MBA next week but think I will wait a while to see how this problem works out.
 
Ugh, Bitrate and bandwidth concerns.

Streaming a blu-ray quality 1080p, 24fps, 5.1 sound stream is not something I can do more than once or twice in a month because of my ISP's limit on downloads/uploads. Not to mention my 30 mbps connection will not be able to sustain such massive transfer rate over the period of a movie stream.

Seriously, people thinking streaming is "it" really don't know squat about current Internet infrastructures and the actual quality of a Blu-ray encode.

Verizon Tests A 10 Gbps Connection For Both Upload And Download. Want.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/05/verizon-10-gbps/

It will be sometime before this is available in our homes, but it's more proof that Blu-Ray will eventually go the way of the dodo except for those that need to display their movie collection for everyone to see.
 
Ugh, Bitrate and bandwidth concerns.

Streaming a blu-ray quality 1080p, 24fps, 5.1 sound stream is not something I can do more than once or twice in a month because of my ISP's limit on downloads/uploads. Not to mention my 30 mbps connection will not be able to sustain such massive transfer rate over the period of a movie stream.

Seriously, people thinking streaming is "it" really don't know squat about current Internet infrastructures and the actual quality of a Blu-ray encode.

A well encoded 1080p Blu-Ray is about 12GB-15GB in size, which means you only need to sustain 2.3MB/s. Your 30mb/s has the capacity to stream 3.7MB/s.

Once or twice a month? What is your cap, 50GB?
 
I have nothing but good things to say about both AppleCare, and my competent local Apple Store.

I was with my college friend at a local Apple Store when the store manager handed him a brand new 2009 15" MBP to replace his 3 year old 15" MBP. Ironically he had logic board issues that surfaced after he had Apple Care replace his damaged screen. Apple Care is top notch.

I'm very experienced when it comes to bugs in new devices and never expect perfection. It's the nature of the hugely complex products we love.

+1
 
Netbook with an identify crisis

The specs can't look faster than a speeding bullet and be light as a feather. Core 2 Duo is a hot chip and NVIDIA is no stranger to shipping defective product.
 
Sucks for the MBA though, hopefully this doesn't cause a Logic Board-gate....

oh it will. the Media are fantastic about making Mount Everest out of a speck of dust when it comes to issues with anything that Apple makes.

Which is not to say that there aren't issues. but they are likely never as bad as the sites, blogs etc make it out. What they always scream as a major design issue is in true 1-2% at most.
 
A well encoded 1080p Blu-Ray is about 12GB-15GB in size, which means you only need to sustain 2.3MB/s. Your 30mb/s has the capacity to stream 3.7MB/s.

Uh first, a well encoded Blu-ray movie is more than that. You're talking about rips you find on the net. Those are re-compressed. Second, while my 30mbps connection might be able to achieve a peak of 3.7 MB/s, it cannot sustain it due to various other network issues for the whole duration of a movie. That's just life on the Internet, a big global shared network.

Once or twice a month? What is your cap, 50GB?

100 GB. But why would I dedicate my entire month to just streaming movies ? I have cable for that.
 
Will you stop pretending you're responding in an official manner in the name of Apple ? It's really, really starting to irritate everyone.

Speak for yourself. He doesn't irritate me at all.

Of course that could be because I put his annoying butt on my ignore list. :D


Thats too bad, Apple really needs to improve quality control.. I mean when you think about it theres been problems with iMacs (Yellow Tint), iPhone 4 (Signal Issues), now Macbook Airs =/


lets look at those problems

something like 5% of the first run 27 inch imacs had the tinting issue but of that 99% were custom orders placed via the web site and shipped via Fed Ex and UPS Express, where they were very possibly tossed around with little regard for their fragility, left for days in warehouses etc. Which could be the reason for the broken assemblies, loosened connectors etc that cause the issue. Reasons that won't be changed when you order a 2nd custom machine shipped the same way and mishandled by the same schmucks

99% of the iphone 4 'signal' issues were folks in the US in **** ATT areas. perhaps .1% were actually in good areas in the US or otherwise. The rest were outside of the US in **** reception areas. So perhaps, crazy idea, the issue is the carrier not the phone. Even the folks with other iphone 4 issues numbers at 5% at the most.

Compare this to the whole 50-60% of Xboxes that failed and lets start about quality control issues. I'd say that Apple does fairly well

The real issue is that "Apple F's up, again" is the number one tech world hit fodder. Post it as a headline and you will get clicks. the Celeb world would kill for the numbers Apple gets in hits. Even their "Twilight Love Affair News" only gets like 1/50th the hits that Apple does.
 
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[QUOTE, that is more than enough computing power for the majority of end users. I wouldn't recommend a Macbook Air for someone attempting to map the human genome.[/QUOTE]

Well said.
 
While looking at the 13-inch units, one of the workers walked by, glanced at the machine, and held the power button down very routinely (like she had done that before for that unit).

I'm sure that the staff deal with display units that customers turn off all the time. Which is, according to your own comment, what was going on. Because you said yourself that you turned it off.

Perhaps if you had not turned it off and she walked up to a grey screen, you would be on to something.


apple doesn't nearly have the highest reliability, Asus's failure rate is much lower hence why their warranty is 2 years GLOBAL, also they include a 1 year accidental warranty on almost all of their laptops.

The graph is real pretty, however it lacks context. That graph was created by SquareTrade. A company that specializes in electronics warranties and loves to post 'studies' to support consumers need for their coverage. Unfortunately they lump together their undefined failures, how many actual units from each company were 'studied', or even the very important detail that their sample is of units that had claims or how many covered units have no claims by company. and so on. In short, very biased information presented in a very biased manner.

Call me when everyone wants the same thing out of a laptop.

Sturdy, highly portable (generally defined as lightweight) and great battery. Isn't that what notebook owners are looking for.

Frankly I agree with those that say that the Air form factor is the future. However I don't expect to see that future really kick in for another 3 years. It will take that long before storage drives are likely to be cheap enough to provide some real capacity.

Seriously, that is one bad ad. How did it even promote the iBook ? "You too can be the biggest jerk on the plane!"

Best part. The kid is the guy that played the annoying brother on Heroes. Actually everything he has been in as been 'the annoying' whatever.

It's been my experience that when Apple knows about an issue they are usually pretty good about addressing it.

That is my experience as well. However 'knowing' is more than just a few reports on this or that board. Which is something many folks forget. THey need data. Test results, broken machines etc. Which is why I tell everyone I know with a potentially bonked whatever that is less than a month old to definitely take it in for an appointment. And to take the box with them. Cause in my experience if it is crapped out, the managers will happily let you exchange it even if it is a week 'too late' for a return. and no 10% fee. Especially if you don't act like a douche
 
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